Gaza War, Part 3

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Anonymous wrote:For the few of you pro-“Palestinian” Liberals who are not flagrant and open Hamas supporters, you should see this:

https://www.newsweek.com/hamas-issues-2024-election-warning-joe-biden-1882459#:~:text=U.S.%20President%20Joe%20Biden's,Palestinian%20Hamas%20movement%20told%20Newsweek.

For the few of you who are not openly anti-Semitic, Hamas supporters, you are being used to bring Hamas’ Jewish genocide agenda to the United States, they are no longer even hiding it - Petitioning the American President openly to blatantly support their Genocide.

You can still turn around, and do the right thing. You can admit your underlying anti-Semitism, and decide to embrace Israel, and support their mission without reservation in their desperate attempt to survive as a nation. But that time is fading fast, and it takes strong, clear actions to turn this Country around and to support Israel.

I am not a "liberal", a "Hamas supporter", or "anti-Semitic".

There is no world in which I would support and cheer on deliberate state-sponsored starvation.

1) If you do not support Israel in their mission at this point, you are either a Hamas Supporter and anti-Semitic, or incredibly naive.

2) Israel is giving Palestine aid. They just aren’t handing it over to Hamas/UNRWA to be sold to fund their active genocide against the Jewish people.

1. No, that is not anywhere close to being true and you are not only harming Israel but also making the term anti-Semitic meaningless by pushing such obviously disengenuous spin.


2. No they aren't. Israel itself is giving zero aid. Any aid that enters is entirely coming from and being paid for by third party countries like the US. Israel, according to its own Finance Minister, is enacting collective punishment and deliberately trying to starve the population of Gaza. This is shown not only by his own statements but also by their known actions and has been confirmed by a host of neutral third party countries and organizations. There's a reason why the US is building a jetty and airdropping rations.

1) Suit yourself. But when Jewish people say you are anti-Semitic and promoting Jewish genocide, maybe you should listen. In the 1920s what do you think Jewish people were saying? We have been through this again. And promised that it would happen never again, but here we are…

2) And why should they? Israel is letting hundreds of trucks of aid in a day, after careful vetting and required safety inspections. Which is getting increasingly hard, because after Israel cutting of Hamas’ UNRWA arm, now Hamas has been increasingly getting violent, attacking aid convoys, and putting the brave Israeli and Egyptian aid drivers’ lives at risk, all because of just how successful Israel has been in providing aid to the Palestinian people while preventing the same aid from being used by Hamas in their genocidal mission. In a decade, the Israeli aid mission will be studied as an example of Humanitarian aid done right in a tense, harsh situation.

But you are moving goalposts. First it was that “OMG Israel isn’t letting aid in!” Now apparently it is, “OMG Israel isn’t single handedly funding the aid shipments to a country that actively prays for the genocide of the Jewish population! How dare they!”

Oh my goodness. I have to laugh .

There wouldn’t be need for humanitarian aid if there wasn’t a famine .

The first thing Israel did was cut off water and fuel and the first things struck were the bakeries and the flour mills in this war . Kinda hard to farm , cook, or import food or run a store or a hospital without electricity, water, or fuel

Let that be a lesson the next time they want to attack Israel.

And why haven't they been able to produce their own water and electricity in 18 years?

Maybe if they concentrated on developing their 25 miles of coast on the Mediterranean instead of constantly waging war on Israel, they'd be an independent, thriving state today? Israel gave Gaza back to them in 2005 and immediately, they destroyed much of the infrastructure in anger and began attacking Israel from Gaza.

NO sympathy.

Hamas stole all the money they were given to do those things and tore up the water pipes and used them to make rockets to fire at Israeli civilians.

Also, it takes ZERO mental gymnastics to understand that there would be no famine problem at all in Palestine right now if Palestine hadn't attacked Israel on 10/7. That's just a fact.

NP. Nobody buys the outrageous lie that Gaza would have been left in peace if 10/7 had not happened.

How conveniently you forget that Israel was 18 years (18 YEARS!) into a full, complete land, sea and air blockade of Gaza when 10/7 occurred! Those people had their land stolen by Israel 75 years ago, have been under 24/7 threat of extrajudicial killing since then, and have been imprisoned by Israel for no crime other than being inconvenient natives since … but you want to pretend that 10/7 is the real story here. GTFOH.

Simple test of logic: Were Palestinians starving prior to 10/7? No.

This is because of 10/7.

Done. End of story. No amount of your dumb spin and excuse-making will change that. NONE.

No, it’s because Israel has lost its soul and gone super right wing. It’s gone to war with Palestinians several times before and never facilitated a famine. I remember back in the 90s, Palestinian pregnant women and children even used to even be treated by Israeli doctors and hospitals and the families would be grateful and thanking the Jewish doctors . Hamas barely had much mobilization then as it’s hard to demonize Israel/Israelis when most Palestinians know their doctors were the ones helping. It’s a strange paradox when the source of the injury is also the source of the revival but that’s what gave Israel credibility as a Western democracy and ethnic cleansing/ war crime victims, and it’s also just good Jewish morals and ethics in practice. Netanyahu era started all this ugliness and callousness with settlements and super bombs and he thinks he is keeping Israel safe .

Lots of words but in all of it you cannot refute or argue the fact that prior to the Hamas massacre on 10/7, no Palestinians were starving.

Cause and effect. You fail at logic.

The cause of the starvation is Israeli Government action which is deliberately doing so in order to collectively punish Palestinians.

This is not the big logical win you think it is.

Again, none of this would be happening were it not for 10/7. You cannot escape that.

Yours is the logic of a psychopath.
Let me give you an analogy to your poor logic. Let's say your DD stole a ring from a jewelry store, and refused to return it. The store owners repeated asked her to return the jewelry, but she didn't, so the owners decided to bomb her entire neighborhood and then cut off the water supply to the town and barricade the roads. Your reasoning is well 500 people wouldn't be dead and starving if she hadn't stolen the jewelry and all she had t do was return the ring. The owners are not just being bullies, they are psychopathic. The owners are Israel.
I can't tell if you're actually low IQ or just being a troll, but clearly the rest of the world sees a distressingly disproportionate response to Hamas's crime. How else does a collective people turn a blind eye to the deliberate starvation of babies and the slaughter of their parents?

Again, none of this would be happening were it not for 10/7. You and your namecalling and your spinning and your bogus analogies cannot escape that. Complete logic fail and extremely dishonest and disingenuous of you to keep trying to write 10/7 out of the equation and to ignore that an overwhelming majority of Palestinians endorsed the 10/7 massacre.

To be clear, you believe that Israelis should slaughter innocent children because their grandparents supposedly "endorsed" (but did not actually commit) crimes?

No. I think Gazans need to reject this. If 72% of Gazans instead agreed that 10/7 was horrific and demanded that Hamas surrender that could end this and people could return to their lives.

Not really. Firstly your math doesn't work out. Over 50% of Gazans are children. So 72% of the population is an impossibility. Secondly, Bibi (Smotrich and Ben Gvir) have made it quite clear that nothing will change regardless of what Palestinians think or do. Heck, they don't even acknowledge that Palestinians exist.

Nope. Overwhelming percentage of poll respondents said they agree with the 10/7 massacre. That's a poll conducted by Palestinians on the ground in Palestine. Here's the poll and the methodology. https://pcpsr.org/en/node/969 There's nothing "wrong with the math" - you're just mad that it doesn't give you an out and takes away your phony arguments and high ground. Your complaints and arguments are illegitimate.

You're blinded by your own zeal. If 50% of a population is too young to have an opinion/respond to a poll then the maximum any response could give is 50% (assuming 100% adult agreement).

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Anonymous wrote:For the few of you pro-“Palestinian” Liberals who are not flagrant and open Hamas supporters, you should see this:

https://www.newsweek.com/hamas-issues-2024-election-warning-joe-biden-1882459#:~:text=U.S.%20President%20Joe%20Biden's,Palestinian%20Hamas%20movement%20told%20Newsweek.

For the few of you who are not openly anti-Semitic, Hamas supporters, you are being used to bring Hamas’ Jewish genocide agenda to the United States, they are no longer even hiding it - Petitioning the American President openly to blatantly support their Genocide.

You can still turn around, and do the right thing. You can admit your underlying anti-Semitism, and decide to embrace Israel, and support their mission without reservation in their desperate attempt to survive as a nation. But that time is fading fast, and it takes strong, clear actions to turn this Country around and to support Israel.

I am not a "liberal", a "Hamas supporter", or "anti-Semitic".

There is no world in which I would support and cheer on deliberate state-sponsored starvation.

1) If you do not support Israel in their mission at this point, you are either a Hamas Supporter and anti-Semitic, or incredibly naive.

2) Israel is giving Palestine aid. They just aren’t handing it over to Hamas/UNRWA to be sold to fund their active genocide against the Jewish people.

1. No, that is not anywhere close to being true and you are not only harming Israel but also making the term anti-Semitic meaningless by pushing such obviously disengenuous spin.


2. No they aren't. Israel itself is giving zero aid. Any aid that enters is entirely coming from and being paid for by third party countries like the US. Israel, according to its own Finance Minister, is enacting collective punishment and deliberately trying to starve the population of Gaza. This is shown not only by his own statements but also by their known actions and has been confirmed by a host of neutral third party countries and organizations. There's a reason why the US is building a jetty and airdropping rations.

1) Suit yourself. But when Jewish people say you are anti-Semitic and promoting Jewish genocide, maybe you should listen. In the 1920s what do you think Jewish people were saying? We have been through this again. And promised that it would happen never again, but here we are…

2) And why should they? Israel is letting hundreds of trucks of aid in a day, after careful vetting and required safety inspections. Which is getting increasingly hard, because after Israel cutting of Hamas’ UNRWA arm, now Hamas has been increasingly getting violent, attacking aid convoys, and putting the brave Israeli and Egyptian aid drivers’ lives at risk, all because of just how successful Israel has been in providing aid to the Palestinian people while preventing the same aid from being used by Hamas in their genocidal mission. In a decade, the Israeli aid mission will be studied as an example of Humanitarian aid done right in a tense, harsh situation.

But you are moving goalposts. First it was that “OMG Israel isn’t letting aid in!” Now apparently it is, “OMG Israel isn’t single handedly funding the aid shipments to a country that actively prays for the genocide of the Jewish population! How dare they!”

Oh my goodness. I have to laugh .

There wouldn’t be need for humanitarian aid if there wasn’t a famine .

The first thing Israel did was cut off water and fuel and the first things struck were the bakeries and the flour mills in this war . Kinda hard to farm , cook, or import food or run a store or a hospital without electricity, water, or fuel

Let that be a lesson the next time they want to attack Israel.

And why haven't they been able to produce their own water and electricity in 18 years?

Maybe if they concentrated on developing their 25 miles of coast on the Mediterranean instead of constantly waging war on Israel, they'd be an independent, thriving state today? Israel gave Gaza back to them in 2005 and immediately, they destroyed much of the infrastructure in anger and began attacking Israel from Gaza.

NO sympathy.

Hamas stole all the money they were given to do those things and tore up the water pipes and used them to make rockets to fire at Israeli civilians.

Also, it takes ZERO mental gymnastics to understand that there would be no famine problem at all in Palestine right now if Palestine hadn't attacked Israel on 10/7. That's just a fact.

NP. Nobody buys the outrageous lie that Gaza would have been left in peace if 10/7 had not happened.

How conveniently you forget that Israel was 18 years (18 YEARS!) into a full, complete land, sea and air blockade of Gaza when 10/7 occurred! Those people had their land stolen by Israel 75 years ago, have been under 24/7 threat of extrajudicial killing since then, and have been imprisoned by Israel for no crime other than being inconvenient natives since … but you want to pretend that 10/7 is the real story here. GTFOH.

Simple test of logic: Were Palestinians starving prior to 10/7? No.

This is because of 10/7.

Done. End of story. No amount of your dumb spin and excuse-making will change that. NONE.

No, it’s because Israel has lost its soul and gone super right wing. It’s gone to war with Palestinians several times before and never facilitated a famine. I remember back in the 90s, Palestinian pregnant women and children even used to even be treated by Israeli doctors and hospitals and the families would be grateful and thanking the Jewish doctors . Hamas barely had much mobilization then as it’s hard to demonize Israel/Israelis when most Palestinians know their doctors were the ones helping. It’s a strange paradox when the source of the injury is also the source of the revival but that’s what gave Israel credibility as a Western democracy and ethnic cleansing/ war crime victims, and it’s also just good Jewish morals and ethics in practice. Netanyahu era started all this ugliness and callousness with settlements and super bombs and he thinks he is keeping Israel safe .

Lots of words but in all of it you cannot refute or argue the fact that prior to the Hamas massacre on 10/7, no Palestinians were starving.

Cause and effect. You fail at logic.

The cause of the starvation is Israeli Government action which is deliberately doing so in order to collectively punish Palestinians.

This is not the big logical win you think it is.

Again, none of this would be happening were it not for 10/7. You cannot escape that.

Yours is the logic of a psychopath.
Let me give you an analogy to your poor logic. Let's say your DD stole a ring from a jewelry store, and refused to return it. The store owners repeated asked her to return the jewelry, but she didn't, so the owners decided to bomb her entire neighborhood and then cut off the water supply to the town and barricade the roads. Your reasoning is well 500 people wouldn't be dead and starving if she hadn't stolen the jewelry and all she had t do was return the ring. The owners are not just being bullies, they are psychopathic. The owners are Israel.
I can't tell if you're actually low IQ or just being a troll, but clearly the rest of the world sees a distressingly disproportionate response to Hamas's crime. How else does a collective people turn a blind eye to the deliberate starvation of babies and the slaughter of their parents?

Again, none of this would be happening were it not for 10/7. You and your namecalling and your spinning and your bogus analogies cannot escape that. Complete logic fail and extremely dishonest and disingenuous of you to keep trying to write 10/7 out of the equation and to ignore that an overwhelming majority of Palestinians endorsed the 10/7 massacre.

I’m a new poster (and of Jewish descent btw). Your logic makes zero sense to me.

Maybe let’s try a different angle. If not for 10/7, Israel would still be controlling water and air and land access into and out of Gaza. Thousands of Palestinians would still be held in Israeli prisons without charge (ie some might same this is the same as being held hostage). According to Gallup’s Basic Needs Vulnerability Index, which measures people’s ability to afford food and shelter and their social safety nets, prior to 10/7 two-thirds of residents in Gaza (67%) could be classified as highly or moderately vulnerable before the war. Fifteen percent were highly vulnerable, meaning they struggled to afford both food and shelter and did not have family or friends who could help them in times of need. Anger was also on the rise. In summer 2023, 44% of Palestinians in Gaza said they experienced a lot of anger the day before they were surveyed. This is the highest level of anger recorded in Gaza since 2018 (48%), when the “Great March of Return” protests began, which called for an end to the blockade on Gaza and the right of return for displaced Palestinians. Thousands of Palestinians were killed and injured in that period.

With this backdrop, 10/7 (as horrible as it was) seems sadly and tragically inevitable.

I simply don’t understand how Israel’s actions now are making the situation any better. If there were Palestinians that didn’t hate Jews before, I am sure they do now.

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Anonymous wrote:For the few of you pro-“Palestinian” Liberals who are not flagrant and open Hamas supporters, you should see this:

https://www.newsweek.com/hamas-issues-2024-election-warning-joe-biden-1882459#:~:text=U.S.%20President%20Joe%20Biden's,Palestinian%20Hamas%20movement%20told%20Newsweek.

For the few of you who are not openly anti-Semitic, Hamas supporters, you are being used to bring Hamas’ Jewish genocide agenda to the United States, they are no longer even hiding it - Petitioning the American President openly to blatantly support their Genocide.

You can still turn around, and do the right thing. You can admit your underlying anti-Semitism, and decide to embrace Israel, and support their mission without reservation in their desperate attempt to survive as a nation. But that time is fading fast, and it takes strong, clear actions to turn this Country around and to support Israel.

I am not a "liberal", a "Hamas supporter", or "anti-Semitic".

There is no world in which I would support and cheer on deliberate state-sponsored starvation.

1) If you do not support Israel in their mission at this point, you are either a Hamas Supporter and anti-Semitic, or incredibly naive.

2) Israel is giving Palestine aid. They just aren’t handing it over to Hamas/UNRWA to be sold to fund their active genocide against the Jewish people.

1. No, that is not anywhere close to being true and you are not only harming Israel but also making the term anti-Semitic meaningless by pushing such obviously disengenuous spin.


2. No they aren't. Israel itself is giving zero aid. Any aid that enters is entirely coming from and being paid for by third party countries like the US. Israel, according to its own Finance Minister, is enacting collective punishment and deliberately trying to starve the population of Gaza. This is shown not only by his own statements but also by their known actions and has been confirmed by a host of neutral third party countries and organizations. There's a reason why the US is building a jetty and airdropping rations.

1) Suit yourself. But when Jewish people say you are anti-Semitic and promoting Jewish genocide, maybe you should listen. In the 1920s what do you think Jewish people were saying? We have been through this again. And promised that it would happen never again, but here we are…

2) And why should they? Israel is letting hundreds of trucks of aid in a day, after careful vetting and required safety inspections. Which is getting increasingly hard, because after Israel cutting of Hamas’ UNRWA arm, now Hamas has been increasingly getting violent, attacking aid convoys, and putting the brave Israeli and Egyptian aid drivers’ lives at risk, all because of just how successful Israel has been in providing aid to the Palestinian people while preventing the same aid from being used by Hamas in their genocidal mission. In a decade, the Israeli aid mission will be studied as an example of Humanitarian aid done right in a tense, harsh situation.

But you are moving goalposts. First it was that “OMG Israel isn’t letting aid in!” Now apparently it is, “OMG Israel isn’t single handedly funding the aid shipments to a country that actively prays for the genocide of the Jewish population! How dare they!”

Oh my goodness. I have to laugh .

There wouldn’t be need for humanitarian aid if there wasn’t a famine .

The first thing Israel did was cut off water and fuel and the first things struck were the bakeries and the flour mills in this war . Kinda hard to farm , cook, or import food or run a store or a hospital without electricity, water, or fuel

Let that be a lesson the next time they want to attack Israel.

And why haven't they been able to produce their own water and electricity in 18 years?

Maybe if they concentrated on developing their 25 miles of coast on the Mediterranean instead of constantly waging war on Israel, they'd be an independent, thriving state today? Israel gave Gaza back to them in 2005 and immediately, they destroyed much of the infrastructure in anger and began attacking Israel from Gaza.

NO sympathy.

Hamas stole all the money they were given to do those things and tore up the water pipes and used them to make rockets to fire at Israeli civilians.

Also, it takes ZERO mental gymnastics to understand that there would be no famine problem at all in Palestine right now if Palestine hadn't attacked Israel on 10/7. That's just a fact.

NP. Nobody buys the outrageous lie that Gaza would have been left in peace if 10/7 had not happened.

How conveniently you forget that Israel was 18 years (18 YEARS!) into a full, complete land, sea and air blockade of Gaza when 10/7 occurred! Those people had their land stolen by Israel 75 years ago, have been under 24/7 threat of extrajudicial killing since then, and have been imprisoned by Israel for no crime other than being inconvenient natives since … but you want to pretend that 10/7 is the real story here. GTFOH.

Simple test of logic: Were Palestinians starving prior to 10/7? No.

This is because of 10/7.

Done. End of story. No amount of your dumb spin and excuse-making will change that. NONE.

No, it’s because Israel has lost its soul and gone super right wing. It’s gone to war with Palestinians several times before and never facilitated a famine. I remember back in the 90s, Palestinian pregnant women and children even used to even be treated by Israeli doctors and hospitals and the families would be grateful and thanking the Jewish doctors . Hamas barely had much mobilization then as it’s hard to demonize Israel/Israelis when most Palestinians know their doctors were the ones helping. It’s a strange paradox when the source of the injury is also the source of the revival but that’s what gave Israel credibility as a Western democracy and ethnic cleansing/ war crime victims, and it’s also just good Jewish morals and ethics in practice. Netanyahu era started all this ugliness and callousness with settlements and super bombs and he thinks he is keeping Israel safe .

Lots of words but in all of it you cannot refute or argue the fact that prior to the Hamas massacre on 10/7, no Palestinians were starving.

Cause and effect. You fail at logic.

The cause of the starvation is Israeli Government action which is deliberately doing so in order to collectively punish Palestinians.

This is not the big logical win you think it is.

Again, none of this would be happening were it not for 10/7. You cannot escape that.

Yours is the logic of a psychopath.
Let me give you an analogy to your poor logic. Let's say your DD stole a ring from a jewelry store, and refused to return it. The store owners repeated asked her to return the jewelry, but she didn't, so the owners decided to bomb her entire neighborhood and then cut off the water supply to the town and barricade the roads. Your reasoning is well 500 people wouldn't be dead and starving if she hadn't stolen the jewelry and all she had t do was return the ring. The owners are not just being bullies, they are psychopathic. The owners are Israel.
I can't tell if you're actually low IQ or just being a troll, but clearly the rest of the world sees a distressingly disproportionate response to Hamas's crime. How else does a collective people turn a blind eye to the deliberate starvation of babies and the slaughter of their parents?

Again, none of this would be happening were it not for 10/7. You and your namecalling and your spinning and your bogus analogies cannot escape that. Complete logic fail and extremely dishonest and disingenuous of you to keep trying to write 10/7 out of the equation and to ignore that an overwhelming majority of Palestinians endorsed the 10/7 massacre.

To be clear, you believe that Israelis should slaughter innocent children because their grandparents supposedly "endorsed" (but did not actually commit) crimes?

No. I think Gazans need to reject this. If 72% of Gazans instead agreed that 10/7 was horrific and demanded that Hamas surrender that could end this and people could return to their lives.

Funny how Israelis have made it impossible to host an election. That's what happens, you do realize, when you bomb a society to smithereens, withhold food, water, and medicine, kill journalists, and murder thousands of their babies.

Wrong. Israel delegated elections to the Gazans. The Gazans elected Hamas with a majority and made Hamas their government. And it's Hamas who has refused to host new elections.

And again, to remind you AGAIN... Gaza did not have such problems getting food prior to 10/7. Yet for some reason your great and brilliant and logical mind somehow still can't understand that 10/7 has something to do with that.

I don’t think you have your facts entirely straight. This report is enlightening and does not paint life in Gaza as all sunshine and rainbows.

https://news.stanford.edu/report/2023/12/05/palestinians-views-oct-7/

Some key points below:

In early October, Arab Barometer, a central resource for quantitative research on Arab countries, completed its most recent survey in Palestine, offering unique insight into the views of Palestinians living in the West Bank and Gaza just prior to 10/7.

About 75% of people living in Gaza said they face food insecurity – nearly a 25% increase from the Arab Barometer’s 2021 survey.

Only 23% of respondents said they have a great deal or quite a lot of trust in Hamas; 52% had no trust at all in Hamas.

Nearly 80% believed the economic situation in Gaza and the West Bank is bad or very bad.

A majority – 56% – believed the country’s economic situation will be somewhat worse or much worse in the coming years.

Most Palestinians said their freedom of speech is guaranteed to either a limited or no extent at all.

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Anonymous wrote:For the few of you pro-“Palestinian” Liberals who are not flagrant and open Hamas supporters, you should see this:

https://www.newsweek.com/hamas-issues-2024-election-warning-joe-biden-1882459#:~:text=U.S.%20President%20Joe%20Biden's,Palestinian%20Hamas%20movement%20told%20Newsweek.

For the few of you who are not openly anti-Semitic, Hamas supporters, you are being used to bring Hamas’ Jewish genocide agenda to the United States, they are no longer even hiding it - Petitioning the American President openly to blatantly support their Genocide.

You can still turn around, and do the right thing. You can admit your underlying anti-Semitism, and decide to embrace Israel, and support their mission without reservation in their desperate attempt to survive as a nation. But that time is fading fast, and it takes strong, clear actions to turn this Country around and to support Israel.

I am not a "liberal", a "Hamas supporter", or "anti-Semitic".

There is no world in which I would support and cheer on deliberate state-sponsored starvation.

1) If you do not support Israel in their mission at this point, you are either a Hamas Supporter and anti-Semitic, or incredibly naive.

2) Israel is giving Palestine aid. They just aren’t handing it over to Hamas/UNRWA to be sold to fund their active genocide against the Jewish people.

1. No, that is not anywhere close to being true and you are not only harming Israel but also making the term anti-Semitic meaningless by pushing such obviously disengenuous spin.


2. No they aren't. Israel itself is giving zero aid. Any aid that enters is entirely coming from and being paid for by third party countries like the US. Israel, according to its own Finance Minister, is enacting collective punishment and deliberately trying to starve the population of Gaza. This is shown not only by his own statements but also by their known actions and has been confirmed by a host of neutral third party countries and organizations. There's a reason why the US is building a jetty and airdropping rations.

1) Suit yourself. But when Jewish people say you are anti-Semitic and promoting Jewish genocide, maybe you should listen. In the 1920s what do you think Jewish people were saying? We have been through this again. And promised that it would happen never again, but here we are…

2) And why should they? Israel is letting hundreds of trucks of aid in a day, after careful vetting and required safety inspections. Which is getting increasingly hard, because after Israel cutting of Hamas’ UNRWA arm, now Hamas has been increasingly getting violent, attacking aid convoys, and putting the brave Israeli and Egyptian aid drivers’ lives at risk, all because of just how successful Israel has been in providing aid to the Palestinian people while preventing the same aid from being used by Hamas in their genocidal mission. In a decade, the Israeli aid mission will be studied as an example of Humanitarian aid done right in a tense, harsh situation.

But you are moving goalposts. First it was that “OMG Israel isn’t letting aid in!” Now apparently it is, “OMG Israel isn’t single handedly funding the aid shipments to a country that actively prays for the genocide of the Jewish population! How dare they!”

Oh my goodness. I have to laugh .

There wouldn’t be need for humanitarian aid if there wasn’t a famine .

The first thing Israel did was cut off water and fuel and the first things struck were the bakeries and the flour mills in this war . Kinda hard to farm , cook, or import food or run a store or a hospital without electricity, water, or fuel

Let that be a lesson the next time they want to attack Israel.

And why haven't they been able to produce their own water and electricity in 18 years?

Maybe if they concentrated on developing their 25 miles of coast on the Mediterranean instead of constantly waging war on Israel, they'd be an independent, thriving state today? Israel gave Gaza back to them in 2005 and immediately, they destroyed much of the infrastructure in anger and began attacking Israel from Gaza.

NO sympathy.

Hamas stole all the money they were given to do those things and tore up the water pipes and used them to make rockets to fire at Israeli civilians.

Also, it takes ZERO mental gymnastics to understand that there would be no famine problem at all in Palestine right now if Palestine hadn't attacked Israel on 10/7. That's just a fact.

NP. Nobody buys the outrageous lie that Gaza would have been left in peace if 10/7 had not happened.

How conveniently you forget that Israel was 18 years (18 YEARS!) into a full, complete land, sea and air blockade of Gaza when 10/7 occurred! Those people had their land stolen by Israel 75 years ago, have been under 24/7 threat of extrajudicial killing since then, and have been imprisoned by Israel for no crime other than being inconvenient natives since … but you want to pretend that 10/7 is the real story here. GTFOH.

Simple test of logic: Were Palestinians starving prior to 10/7? No.

This is because of 10/7.

Done. End of story. No amount of your dumb spin and excuse-making will change that. NONE.

No, it’s because Israel has lost its soul and gone super right wing. It’s gone to war with Palestinians several times before and never facilitated a famine. I remember back in the 90s, Palestinian pregnant women and children even used to even be treated by Israeli doctors and hospitals and the families would be grateful and thanking the Jewish doctors . Hamas barely had much mobilization then as it’s hard to demonize Israel/Israelis when most Palestinians know their doctors were the ones helping. It’s a strange paradox when the source of the injury is also the source of the revival but that’s what gave Israel credibility as a Western democracy and ethnic cleansing/ war crime victims, and it’s also just good Jewish morals and ethics in practice. Netanyahu era started all this ugliness and callousness with settlements and super bombs and he thinks he is keeping Israel safe .

Lots of words but in all of it you cannot refute or argue the fact that prior to the Hamas massacre on 10/7, no Palestinians were starving.

Cause and effect. You fail at logic.

The cause of the starvation is Israeli Government action which is deliberately doing so in order to collectively punish Palestinians.

This is not the big logical win you think it is.

Again, none of this would be happening were it not for 10/7. You cannot escape that.

Yours is the logic of a psychopath.
Let me give you an analogy to your poor logic. Let's say your DD stole a ring from a jewelry store, and refused to return it. The store owners repeated asked her to return the jewelry, but she didn't, so the owners decided to bomb her entire neighborhood and then cut off the water supply to the town and barricade the roads. Your reasoning is well 500 people wouldn't be dead and starving if she hadn't stolen the jewelry and all she had t do was return the ring. The owners are not just being bullies, they are psychopathic. The owners are Israel.
I can't tell if you're actually low IQ or just being a troll, but clearly the rest of the world sees a distressingly disproportionate response to Hamas's crime. How else does a collective people turn a blind eye to the deliberate starvation of babies and the slaughter of their parents?

Murdering 1200 and injuring thousands is different than stealing a ring

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Anonymous wrote:For the few of you pro-“Palestinian” Liberals who are not flagrant and open Hamas supporters, you should see this:

https://www.newsweek.com/hamas-issues-2024-election-warning-joe-biden-1882459#:~:text=U.S.%20President%20Joe%20Biden's,Palestinian%20Hamas%20movement%20told%20Newsweek.

For the few of you who are not openly anti-Semitic, Hamas supporters, you are being used to bring Hamas’ Jewish genocide agenda to the United States, they are no longer even hiding it - Petitioning the American President openly to blatantly support their Genocide.

You can still turn around, and do the right thing. You can admit your underlying anti-Semitism, and decide to embrace Israel, and support their mission without reservation in their desperate attempt to survive as a nation. But that time is fading fast, and it takes strong, clear actions to turn this Country around and to support Israel.

I am not a "liberal", a "Hamas supporter", or "anti-Semitic".

There is no world in which I would support and cheer on deliberate state-sponsored starvation.

1) If you do not support Israel in their mission at this point, you are either a Hamas Supporter and anti-Semitic, or incredibly naive.

2) Israel is giving Palestine aid. They just aren’t handing it over to Hamas/UNRWA to be sold to fund their active genocide against the Jewish people.

1. No, that is not anywhere close to being true and you are not only harming Israel but also making the term anti-Semitic meaningless by pushing such obviously disengenuous spin.


2. No they aren't. Israel itself is giving zero aid. Any aid that enters is entirely coming from and being paid for by third party countries like the US. Israel, according to its own Finance Minister, is enacting collective punishment and deliberately trying to starve the population of Gaza. This is shown not only by his own statements but also by their known actions and has been confirmed by a host of neutral third party countries and organizations. There's a reason why the US is building a jetty and airdropping rations.

1) Suit yourself. But when Jewish people say you are anti-Semitic and promoting Jewish genocide, maybe you should listen. In the 1920s what do you think Jewish people were saying? We have been through this again. And promised that it would happen never again, but here we are…

2) And why should they? Israel is letting hundreds of trucks of aid in a day, after careful vetting and required safety inspections. Which is getting increasingly hard, because after Israel cutting of Hamas’ UNRWA arm, now Hamas has been increasingly getting violent, attacking aid convoys, and putting the brave Israeli and Egyptian aid drivers’ lives at risk, all because of just how successful Israel has been in providing aid to the Palestinian people while preventing the same aid from being used by Hamas in their genocidal mission. In a decade, the Israeli aid mission will be studied as an example of Humanitarian aid done right in a tense, harsh situation.

But you are moving goalposts. First it was that “OMG Israel isn’t letting aid in!” Now apparently it is, “OMG Israel isn’t single handedly funding the aid shipments to a country that actively prays for the genocide of the Jewish population! How dare they!”

Oh my goodness. I have to laugh .

There wouldn’t be need for humanitarian aid if there wasn’t a famine .

The first thing Israel did was cut off water and fuel and the first things struck were the bakeries and the flour mills in this war . Kinda hard to farm , cook, or import food or run a store or a hospital without electricity, water, or fuel

Let that be a lesson the next time they want to attack Israel.

And why haven't they been able to produce their own water and electricity in 18 years?

Maybe if they concentrated on developing their 25 miles of coast on the Mediterranean instead of constantly waging war on Israel, they'd be an independent, thriving state today? Israel gave Gaza back to them in 2005 and immediately, they destroyed much of the infrastructure in anger and began attacking Israel from Gaza.

NO sympathy.

Hamas stole all the money they were given to do those things and tore up the water pipes and used them to make rockets to fire at Israeli civilians.

Also, it takes ZERO mental gymnastics to understand that there would be no famine problem at all in Palestine right now if Palestine hadn't attacked Israel on 10/7. That's just a fact.

NP. Nobody buys the outrageous lie that Gaza would have been left in peace if 10/7 had not happened.

How conveniently you forget that Israel was 18 years (18 YEARS!) into a full, complete land, sea and air blockade of Gaza when 10/7 occurred! Those people had their land stolen by Israel 75 years ago, have been under 24/7 threat of extrajudicial killing since then, and have been imprisoned by Israel for no crime other than being inconvenient natives since … but you want to pretend that 10/7 is the real story here. GTFOH.

Simple test of logic: Were Palestinians starving prior to 10/7? No.

This is because of 10/7.

Done. End of story. No amount of your dumb spin and excuse-making will change that. NONE.

No, it’s because Israel has lost its soul and gone super right wing. It’s gone to war with Palestinians several times before and never facilitated a famine. I remember back in the 90s, Palestinian pregnant women and children even used to even be treated by Israeli doctors and hospitals and the families would be grateful and thanking the Jewish doctors . Hamas barely had much mobilization then as it’s hard to demonize Israel/Israelis when most Palestinians know their doctors were the ones helping. It’s a strange paradox when the source of the injury is also the source of the revival but that’s what gave Israel credibility as a Western democracy and ethnic cleansing/ war crime victims, and it’s also just good Jewish morals and ethics in practice. Netanyahu era started all this ugliness and callousness with settlements and super bombs and he thinks he is keeping Israel safe .

Lots of words but in all of it you cannot refute or argue the fact that prior to the Hamas massacre on 10/7, no Palestinians were starving.

Cause and effect. You fail at logic.

The cause of the starvation is Israeli Government action which is deliberately doing so in order to collectively punish Palestinians.

This is not the big logical win you think it is.

Again, none of this would be happening were it not for 10/7. You cannot escape that.

Yours is the logic of a psychopath.
Let me give you an analogy to your poor logic. Let's say your DD stole a ring from a jewelry store, and refused to return it. The store owners repeated asked her to return the jewelry, but she didn't, so the owners decided to bomb her entire neighborhood and then cut off the water supply to the town and barricade the roads. Your reasoning is well 500 people wouldn't be dead and starving if she hadn't stolen the jewelry and all she had t do was return the ring. The owners are not just being bullies, they are psychopathic. The owners are Israel.
I can't tell if you're actually low IQ or just being a troll, but clearly the rest of the world sees a distressingly disproportionate response to Hamas's crime. How else does a collective people turn a blind eye to the deliberate starvation of babies and the slaughter of their parents?

Murdering 1200 and injuring thousands is different than stealing a ring

And murdering 30k+ and injuring tens of thousands is on a different level as well.

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Anonymous wrote:For the few of you pro-“Palestinian” Liberals who are not flagrant and open Hamas supporters, you should see this:

https://www.newsweek.com/hamas-issues-2024-election-warning-joe-biden-1882459#:~:text=U.S.%20President%20Joe%20Biden's,Palestinian%20Hamas%20movement%20told%20Newsweek.

For the few of you who are not openly anti-Semitic, Hamas supporters, you are being used to bring Hamas’ Jewish genocide agenda to the United States, they are no longer even hiding it - Petitioning the American President openly to blatantly support their Genocide.

You can still turn around, and do the right thing. You can admit your underlying anti-Semitism, and decide to embrace Israel, and support their mission without reservation in their desperate attempt to survive as a nation. But that time is fading fast, and it takes strong, clear actions to turn this Country around and to support Israel.

I am not a "liberal", a "Hamas supporter", or "anti-Semitic".

There is no world in which I would support and cheer on deliberate state-sponsored starvation.

1) If you do not support Israel in their mission at this point, you are either a Hamas Supporter and anti-Semitic, or incredibly naive.

2) Israel is giving Palestine aid. They just aren’t handing it over to Hamas/UNRWA to be sold to fund their active genocide against the Jewish people.

1. No, that is not anywhere close to being true and you are not only harming Israel but also making the term anti-Semitic meaningless by pushing such obviously disengenuous spin.


2. No they aren't. Israel itself is giving zero aid. Any aid that enters is entirely coming from and being paid for by third party countries like the US. Israel, according to its own Finance Minister, is enacting collective punishment and deliberately trying to starve the population of Gaza. This is shown not only by his own statements but also by their known actions and has been confirmed by a host of neutral third party countries and organizations. There's a reason why the US is building a jetty and airdropping rations.

1) Suit yourself. But when Jewish people say you are anti-Semitic and promoting Jewish genocide, maybe you should listen. In the 1920s what do you think Jewish people were saying? We have been through this again. And promised that it would happen never again, but here we are…

2) And why should they? Israel is letting hundreds of trucks of aid in a day, after careful vetting and required safety inspections. Which is getting increasingly hard, because after Israel cutting of Hamas’ UNRWA arm, now Hamas has been increasingly getting violent, attacking aid convoys, and putting the brave Israeli and Egyptian aid drivers’ lives at risk, all because of just how successful Israel has been in providing aid to the Palestinian people while preventing the same aid from being used by Hamas in their genocidal mission. In a decade, the Israeli aid mission will be studied as an example of Humanitarian aid done right in a tense, harsh situation.

But you are moving goalposts. First it was that “OMG Israel isn’t letting aid in!” Now apparently it is, “OMG Israel isn’t single handedly funding the aid shipments to a country that actively prays for the genocide of the Jewish population! How dare they!”

Oh my goodness. I have to laugh .

There wouldn’t be need for humanitarian aid if there wasn’t a famine .

The first thing Israel did was cut off water and fuel and the first things struck were the bakeries and the flour mills in this war . Kinda hard to farm , cook, or import food or run a store or a hospital without electricity, water, or fuel

Let that be a lesson the next time they want to attack Israel.

And why haven't they been able to produce their own water and electricity in 18 years?

Maybe if they concentrated on developing their 25 miles of coast on the Mediterranean instead of constantly waging war on Israel, they'd be an independent, thriving state today? Israel gave Gaza back to them in 2005 and immediately, they destroyed much of the infrastructure in anger and began attacking Israel from Gaza.

NO sympathy.

Hamas stole all the money they were given to do those things and tore up the water pipes and used them to make rockets to fire at Israeli civilians.

Also, it takes ZERO mental gymnastics to understand that there would be no famine problem at all in Palestine right now if Palestine hadn't attacked Israel on 10/7. That's just a fact.

NP. Nobody buys the outrageous lie that Gaza would have been left in peace if 10/7 had not happened.

How conveniently you forget that Israel was 18 years (18 YEARS!) into a full, complete land, sea and air blockade of Gaza when 10/7 occurred! Those people had their land stolen by Israel 75 years ago, have been under 24/7 threat of extrajudicial killing since then, and have been imprisoned by Israel for no crime other than being inconvenient natives since … but you want to pretend that 10/7 is the real story here. GTFOH.

Simple test of logic: Were Palestinians starving prior to 10/7? No.

This is because of 10/7.

Done. End of story. No amount of your dumb spin and excuse-making will change that. NONE.

No, it’s because Israel has lost its soul and gone super right wing. It’s gone to war with Palestinians several times before and never facilitated a famine. I remember back in the 90s, Palestinian pregnant women and children even used to even be treated by Israeli doctors and hospitals and the families would be grateful and thanking the Jewish doctors . Hamas barely had much mobilization then as it’s hard to demonize Israel/Israelis when most Palestinians know their doctors were the ones helping. It’s a strange paradox when the source of the injury is also the source of the revival but that’s what gave Israel credibility as a Western democracy and ethnic cleansing/ war crime victims, and it’s also just good Jewish morals and ethics in practice. Netanyahu era started all this ugliness and callousness with settlements and super bombs and he thinks he is keeping Israel safe .

Lots of words but in all of it you cannot refute or argue the fact that prior to the Hamas massacre on 10/7, no Palestinians were starving.

Cause and effect. You fail at logic.

The cause of the starvation is Israeli Government action which is deliberately doing so in order to collectively punish Palestinians.

This is not the big logical win you think it is.

Again, none of this would be happening were it not for 10/7. You cannot escape that.

Yours is the logic of a psychopath.
Let me give you an analogy to your poor logic. Let's say your DD stole a ring from a jewelry store, and refused to return it. The store owners repeated asked her to return the jewelry, but she didn't, so the owners decided to bomb her entire neighborhood and then cut off the water supply to the town and barricade the roads. Your reasoning is well 500 people wouldn't be dead and starving if she hadn't stolen the jewelry and all she had t do was return the ring. The owners are not just being bullies, they are psychopathic. The owners are Israel.
I can't tell if you're actually low IQ or just being a troll, but clearly the rest of the world sees a distressingly disproportionate response to Hamas's crime. How else does a collective people turn a blind eye to the deliberate starvation of babies and the slaughter of their parents?

Murdering 1200 and injuring thousands is different than stealing a ring

Only because in your deranged mind, any one of those 1,200 lives is worth more than ALL of the other side's lives. That's the real problem underlying this conflict.

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Anonymous wrote:For the few of you pro-“Palestinian” Liberals who are not flagrant and open Hamas supporters, you should see this:

https://www.newsweek.com/hamas-issues-2024-election-warning-joe-biden-1882459#:~:text=U.S.%20President%20Joe%20Biden's,Palestinian%20Hamas%20movement%20told%20Newsweek.

For the few of you who are not openly anti-Semitic, Hamas supporters, you are being used to bring Hamas’ Jewish genocide agenda to the United States, they are no longer even hiding it - Petitioning the American President openly to blatantly support their Genocide.

You can still turn around, and do the right thing. You can admit your underlying anti-Semitism, and decide to embrace Israel, and support their mission without reservation in their desperate attempt to survive as a nation. But that time is fading fast, and it takes strong, clear actions to turn this Country around and to support Israel.

I am not a "liberal", a "Hamas supporter", or "anti-Semitic".

There is no world in which I would support and cheer on deliberate state-sponsored starvation.

1) If you do not support Israel in their mission at this point, you are either a Hamas Supporter and anti-Semitic, or incredibly naive.

2) Israel is giving Palestine aid. They just aren’t handing it over to Hamas/UNRWA to be sold to fund their active genocide against the Jewish people.

1. No, that is not anywhere close to being true and you are not only harming Israel but also making the term anti-Semitic meaningless by pushing such obviously disengenuous spin.


2. No they aren't. Israel itself is giving zero aid. Any aid that enters is entirely coming from and being paid for by third party countries like the US. Israel, according to its own Finance Minister, is enacting collective punishment and deliberately trying to starve the population of Gaza. This is shown not only by his own statements but also by their known actions and has been confirmed by a host of neutral third party countries and organizations. There's a reason why the US is building a jetty and airdropping rations.

1) Suit yourself. But when Jewish people say you are anti-Semitic and promoting Jewish genocide, maybe you should listen. In the 1920s what do you think Jewish people were saying? We have been through this again. And promised that it would happen never again, but here we are…

2) And why should they? Israel is letting hundreds of trucks of aid in a day, after careful vetting and required safety inspections. Which is getting increasingly hard, because after Israel cutting of Hamas’ UNRWA arm, now Hamas has been increasingly getting violent, attacking aid convoys, and putting the brave Israeli and Egyptian aid drivers’ lives at risk, all because of just how successful Israel has been in providing aid to the Palestinian people while preventing the same aid from being used by Hamas in their genocidal mission. In a decade, the Israeli aid mission will be studied as an example of Humanitarian aid done right in a tense, harsh situation.

But you are moving goalposts. First it was that “OMG Israel isn’t letting aid in!” Now apparently it is, “OMG Israel isn’t single handedly funding the aid shipments to a country that actively prays for the genocide of the Jewish population! How dare they!”

Oh my goodness. I have to laugh .

There wouldn’t be need for humanitarian aid if there wasn’t a famine .

The first thing Israel did was cut off water and fuel and the first things struck were the bakeries and the flour mills in this war . Kinda hard to farm , cook, or import food or run a store or a hospital without electricity, water, or fuel

Let that be a lesson the next time they want to attack Israel.

And why haven't they been able to produce their own water and electricity in 18 years?

Maybe if they concentrated on developing their 25 miles of coast on the Mediterranean instead of constantly waging war on Israel, they'd be an independent, thriving state today? Israel gave Gaza back to them in 2005 and immediately, they destroyed much of the infrastructure in anger and began attacking Israel from Gaza.

NO sympathy.

Hamas stole all the money they were given to do those things and tore up the water pipes and used them to make rockets to fire at Israeli civilians.

Also, it takes ZERO mental gymnastics to understand that there would be no famine problem at all in Palestine right now if Palestine hadn't attacked Israel on 10/7. That's just a fact.

NP. Nobody buys the outrageous lie that Gaza would have been left in peace if 10/7 had not happened.

How conveniently you forget that Israel was 18 years (18 YEARS!) into a full, complete land, sea and air blockade of Gaza when 10/7 occurred! Those people had their land stolen by Israel 75 years ago, have been under 24/7 threat of extrajudicial killing since then, and have been imprisoned by Israel for no crime other than being inconvenient natives since … but you want to pretend that 10/7 is the real story here. GTFOH.

Simple test of logic: Were Palestinians starving prior to 10/7? No.

This is because of 10/7.

Done. End of story. No amount of your dumb spin and excuse-making will change that. NONE.

No, it’s because Israel has lost its soul and gone super right wing. It’s gone to war with Palestinians several times before and never facilitated a famine. I remember back in the 90s, Palestinian pregnant women and children even used to even be treated by Israeli doctors and hospitals and the families would be grateful and thanking the Jewish doctors . Hamas barely had much mobilization then as it’s hard to demonize Israel/Israelis when most Palestinians know their doctors were the ones helping. It’s a strange paradox when the source of the injury is also the source of the revival but that’s what gave Israel credibility as a Western democracy and ethnic cleansing/ war crime victims, and it’s also just good Jewish morals and ethics in practice. Netanyahu era started all this ugliness and callousness with settlements and super bombs and he thinks he is keeping Israel safe .

Lots of words but in all of it you cannot refute or argue the fact that prior to the Hamas massacre on 10/7, no Palestinians were starving.

Cause and effect. You fail at logic.

The cause of the starvation is Israeli Government action which is deliberately doing so in order to collectively punish Palestinians.

This is not the big logical win you think it is.

Again, none of this would be happening were it not for 10/7. You cannot escape that.

Yours is the logic of a psychopath.
Let me give you an analogy to your poor logic. Let's say your DD stole a ring from a jewelry store, and refused to return it. The store owners repeated asked her to return the jewelry, but she didn't, so the owners decided to bomb her entire neighborhood and then cut off the water supply to the town and barricade the roads. Your reasoning is well 500 people wouldn't be dead and starving if she hadn't stolen the jewelry and all she had t do was return the ring. The owners are not just being bullies, they are psychopathic. The owners are Israel.
I can't tell if you're actually low IQ or just being a troll, but clearly the rest of the world sees a distressingly disproportionate response to Hamas's crime. How else does a collective people turn a blind eye to the deliberate starvation of babies and the slaughter of their parents?

Murdering 1200 and injuring thousands is different than stealing a ring

And murdering 30k+ and injuring tens of thousands is on a different level as well.

911, same thing different country, US eliminated 3.6 million, 30k ain't much. They should give better thoughts into voting for hamas

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Anonymous wrote:For the few of you pro-“Palestinian” Liberals who are not flagrant and open Hamas supporters, you should see this:

https://www.newsweek.com/hamas-issues-2024-election-warning-joe-biden-1882459#:~:text=U.S.%20President%20Joe%20Biden's,Palestinian%20Hamas%20movement%20told%20Newsweek.

For the few of you who are not openly anti-Semitic, Hamas supporters, you are being used to bring Hamas’ Jewish genocide agenda to the United States, they are no longer even hiding it - Petitioning the American President openly to blatantly support their Genocide.

You can still turn around, and do the right thing. You can admit your underlying anti-Semitism, and decide to embrace Israel, and support their mission without reservation in their desperate attempt to survive as a nation. But that time is fading fast, and it takes strong, clear actions to turn this Country around and to support Israel.

I am not a "liberal", a "Hamas supporter", or "anti-Semitic".

There is no world in which I would support and cheer on deliberate state-sponsored starvation.

1) If you do not support Israel in their mission at this point, you are either a Hamas Supporter and anti-Semitic, or incredibly naive.

2) Israel is giving Palestine aid. They just aren’t handing it over to Hamas/UNRWA to be sold to fund their active genocide against the Jewish people.

1. No, that is not anywhere close to being true and you are not only harming Israel but also making the term anti-Semitic meaningless by pushing such obviously disengenuous spin.


2. No they aren't. Israel itself is giving zero aid. Any aid that enters is entirely coming from and being paid for by third party countries like the US. Israel, according to its own Finance Minister, is enacting collective punishment and deliberately trying to starve the population of Gaza. This is shown not only by his own statements but also by their known actions and has been confirmed by a host of neutral third party countries and organizations. There's a reason why the US is building a jetty and airdropping rations.

1) Suit yourself. But when Jewish people say you are anti-Semitic and promoting Jewish genocide, maybe you should listen. In the 1920s what do you think Jewish people were saying? We have been through this again. And promised that it would happen never again, but here we are…

2) And why should they? Israel is letting hundreds of trucks of aid in a day, after careful vetting and required safety inspections. Which is getting increasingly hard, because after Israel cutting of Hamas’ UNRWA arm, now Hamas has been increasingly getting violent, attacking aid convoys, and putting the brave Israeli and Egyptian aid drivers’ lives at risk, all because of just how successful Israel has been in providing aid to the Palestinian people while preventing the same aid from being used by Hamas in their genocidal mission. In a decade, the Israeli aid mission will be studied as an example of Humanitarian aid done right in a tense, harsh situation.

But you are moving goalposts. First it was that “OMG Israel isn’t letting aid in!” Now apparently it is, “OMG Israel isn’t single handedly funding the aid shipments to a country that actively prays for the genocide of the Jewish population! How dare they!”

Oh my goodness. I have to laugh .

There wouldn’t be need for humanitarian aid if there wasn’t a famine .

The first thing Israel did was cut off water and fuel and the first things struck were the bakeries and the flour mills in this war . Kinda hard to farm , cook, or import food or run a store or a hospital without electricity, water, or fuel

Let that be a lesson the next time they want to attack Israel.

And why haven't they been able to produce their own water and electricity in 18 years?

Maybe if they concentrated on developing their 25 miles of coast on the Mediterranean instead of constantly waging war on Israel, they'd be an independent, thriving state today? Israel gave Gaza back to them in 2005 and immediately, they destroyed much of the infrastructure in anger and began attacking Israel from Gaza.

NO sympathy.

Hamas stole all the money they were given to do those things and tore up the water pipes and used them to make rockets to fire at Israeli civilians.

Also, it takes ZERO mental gymnastics to understand that there would be no famine problem at all in Palestine right now if Palestine hadn't attacked Israel on 10/7. That's just a fact.

NP. Nobody buys the outrageous lie that Gaza would have been left in peace if 10/7 had not happened.

How conveniently you forget that Israel was 18 years (18 YEARS!) into a full, complete land, sea and air blockade of Gaza when 10/7 occurred! Those people had their land stolen by Israel 75 years ago, have been under 24/7 threat of extrajudicial killing since then, and have been imprisoned by Israel for no crime other than being inconvenient natives since … but you want to pretend that 10/7 is the real story here. GTFOH.

Simple test of logic: Were Palestinians starving prior to 10/7? No.

This is because of 10/7.

Done. End of story. No amount of your dumb spin and excuse-making will change that. NONE.

No, it’s because Israel has lost its soul and gone super right wing. It’s gone to war with Palestinians several times before and never facilitated a famine. I remember back in the 90s, Palestinian pregnant women and children even used to even be treated by Israeli doctors and hospitals and the families would be grateful and thanking the Jewish doctors . Hamas barely had much mobilization then as it’s hard to demonize Israel/Israelis when most Palestinians know their doctors were the ones helping. It’s a strange paradox when the source of the injury is also the source of the revival but that’s what gave Israel credibility as a Western democracy and ethnic cleansing/ war crime victims, and it’s also just good Jewish morals and ethics in practice. Netanyahu era started all this ugliness and callousness with settlements and super bombs and he thinks he is keeping Israel safe .

Lots of words but in all of it you cannot refute or argue the fact that prior to the Hamas massacre on 10/7, no Palestinians were starving.

Cause and effect. You fail at logic.

The cause of the starvation is Israeli Government action which is deliberately doing so in order to collectively punish Palestinians.

This is not the big logical win you think it is.

Again, none of this would be happening were it not for 10/7. You cannot escape that.

Yours is the logic of a psychopath.
Let me give you an analogy to your poor logic. Let's say your DD stole a ring from a jewelry store, and refused to return it. The store owners repeated asked her to return the jewelry, but she didn't, so the owners decided to bomb her entire neighborhood and then cut off the water supply to the town and barricade the roads. Your reasoning is well 500 people wouldn't be dead and starving if she hadn't stolen the jewelry and all she had t do was return the ring. The owners are not just being bullies, they are psychopathic. The owners are Israel.
I can't tell if you're actually low IQ or just being a troll, but clearly the rest of the world sees a distressingly disproportionate response to Hamas's crime. How else does a collective people turn a blind eye to the deliberate starvation of babies and the slaughter of their parents?

Murdering 1200 and injuring thousands is different than stealing a ring

Only because in your deranged mind, any one of those 1,200 lives is worth more than ALL of the other side's lives. That's the real problem underlying this conflict.

Also, not all 1,200 (I think it's actually 1,139) were killed by Hamas and other militants from Gaza. Many were killed by the IDF, which took incompetence and callousness to new levels. It shelled buildings and cars containing Israelis.

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Anonymous wrote:For the few of you pro-“Palestinian” Liberals who are not flagrant and open Hamas supporters, you should see this:

https://www.newsweek.com/hamas-issues-2024-election-warning-joe-biden-1882459#:~:text=U.S.%20President%20Joe%20Biden's,Palestinian%20Hamas%20movement%20told%20Newsweek.

For the few of you who are not openly anti-Semitic, Hamas supporters, you are being used to bring Hamas’ Jewish genocide agenda to the United States, they are no longer even hiding it - Petitioning the American President openly to blatantly support their Genocide.

You can still turn around, and do the right thing. You can admit your underlying anti-Semitism, and decide to embrace Israel, and support their mission without reservation in their desperate attempt to survive as a nation. But that time is fading fast, and it takes strong, clear actions to turn this Country around and to support Israel.

I am not a "liberal", a "Hamas supporter", or "anti-Semitic".

There is no world in which I would support and cheer on deliberate state-sponsored starvation.

1) If you do not support Israel in their mission at this point, you are either a Hamas Supporter and anti-Semitic, or incredibly naive.

2) Israel is giving Palestine aid. They just aren’t handing it over to Hamas/UNRWA to be sold to fund their active genocide against the Jewish people.

1. No, that is not anywhere close to being true and you are not only harming Israel but also making the term anti-Semitic meaningless by pushing such obviously disengenuous spin.


2. No they aren't. Israel itself is giving zero aid. Any aid that enters is entirely coming from and being paid for by third party countries like the US. Israel, according to its own Finance Minister, is enacting collective punishment and deliberately trying to starve the population of Gaza. This is shown not only by his own statements but also by their known actions and has been confirmed by a host of neutral third party countries and organizations. There's a reason why the US is building a jetty and airdropping rations.

1) Suit yourself. But when Jewish people say you are anti-Semitic and promoting Jewish genocide, maybe you should listen. In the 1920s what do you think Jewish people were saying? We have been through this again. And promised that it would happen never again, but here we are…

2) And why should they? Israel is letting hundreds of trucks of aid in a day, after careful vetting and required safety inspections. Which is getting increasingly hard, because after Israel cutting of Hamas’ UNRWA arm, now Hamas has been increasingly getting violent, attacking aid convoys, and putting the brave Israeli and Egyptian aid drivers’ lives at risk, all because of just how successful Israel has been in providing aid to the Palestinian people while preventing the same aid from being used by Hamas in their genocidal mission. In a decade, the Israeli aid mission will be studied as an example of Humanitarian aid done right in a tense, harsh situation.

But you are moving goalposts. First it was that “OMG Israel isn’t letting aid in!” Now apparently it is, “OMG Israel isn’t single handedly funding the aid shipments to a country that actively prays for the genocide of the Jewish population! How dare they!”

Oh my goodness. I have to laugh .

There wouldn’t be need for humanitarian aid if there wasn’t a famine .

The first thing Israel did was cut off water and fuel and the first things struck were the bakeries and the flour mills in this war . Kinda hard to farm , cook, or import food or run a store or a hospital without electricity, water, or fuel

Let that be a lesson the next time they want to attack Israel.

And why haven't they been able to produce their own water and electricity in 18 years?

Maybe if they concentrated on developing their 25 miles of coast on the Mediterranean instead of constantly waging war on Israel, they'd be an independent, thriving state today? Israel gave Gaza back to them in 2005 and immediately, they destroyed much of the infrastructure in anger and began attacking Israel from Gaza.

NO sympathy.

Hamas stole all the money they were given to do those things and tore up the water pipes and used them to make rockets to fire at Israeli civilians.

Also, it takes ZERO mental gymnastics to understand that there would be no famine problem at all in Palestine right now if Palestine hadn't attacked Israel on 10/7. That's just a fact.

NP. Nobody buys the outrageous lie that Gaza would have been left in peace if 10/7 had not happened.

How conveniently you forget that Israel was 18 years (18 YEARS!) into a full, complete land, sea and air blockade of Gaza when 10/7 occurred! Those people had their land stolen by Israel 75 years ago, have been under 24/7 threat of extrajudicial killing since then, and have been imprisoned by Israel for no crime other than being inconvenient natives since … but you want to pretend that 10/7 is the real story here. GTFOH.

Simple test of logic: Were Palestinians starving prior to 10/7? No.

This is because of 10/7.

Done. End of story. No amount of your dumb spin and excuse-making will change that. NONE.

No, it’s because Israel has lost its soul and gone super right wing. It’s gone to war with Palestinians several times before and never facilitated a famine. I remember back in the 90s, Palestinian pregnant women and children even used to even be treated by Israeli doctors and hospitals and the families would be grateful and thanking the Jewish doctors . Hamas barely had much mobilization then as it’s hard to demonize Israel/Israelis when most Palestinians know their doctors were the ones helping. It’s a strange paradox when the source of the injury is also the source of the revival but that’s what gave Israel credibility as a Western democracy and ethnic cleansing/ war crime victims, and it’s also just good Jewish morals and ethics in practice. Netanyahu era started all this ugliness and callousness with settlements and super bombs and he thinks he is keeping Israel safe .

Lots of words but in all of it you cannot refute or argue the fact that prior to the Hamas massacre on 10/7, no Palestinians were starving.

Cause and effect. You fail at logic.

The cause of the starvation is Israeli Government action which is deliberately doing so in order to collectively punish Palestinians.

This is not the big logical win you think it is.

Again, none of this would be happening were it not for 10/7. You cannot escape that.

Yours is the logic of a psychopath.
Let me give you an analogy to your poor logic. Let's say your DD stole a ring from a jewelry store, and refused to return it. The store owners repeated asked her to return the jewelry, but she didn't, so the owners decided to bomb her entire neighborhood and then cut off the water supply to the town and barricade the roads. Your reasoning is well 500 people wouldn't be dead and starving if she hadn't stolen the jewelry and all she had t do was return the ring. The owners are not just being bullies, they are psychopathic. The owners are Israel.
I can't tell if you're actually low IQ or just being a troll, but clearly the rest of the world sees a distressingly disproportionate response to Hamas's crime. How else does a collective people turn a blind eye to the deliberate starvation of babies and the slaughter of their parents?

Murdering 1200 and injuring thousands is different than stealing a ring

And murdering 30k+ and injuring tens of thousands is on a different level as well.

911, same thing different country, US eliminated 3.6 million, 30k ain't much. They should give better thoughts into voting for hamas

The response to 9/11 was absurd, but the US probably didn't eliminate 3.6 million. The number of dead in Hamas is going to be much higher than 30K when this is all over. More people will probably die of disease, starvation, and lack of healthcare than from the bombs and tanks. Israel is going to leave a huge mess behind for someone else to clean up when it gets through its paroxysms of violence and destructions.

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Anonymous wrote:Israel has slaughtered 32,000 Palestinians since 10/7. Congratulations to Israel, Bibi and the Zionists for turning the world against Jews.

Nobody should be against Jews. People can and should hate the Zionists all they want, but let's never judge anyone based on their religion or ethnicity. Zionists have perverted Judaism for personal gain and power and have weaponized it to dehumanize and massacre Palestinians. Zionism is undoubtedly a hideous and racist creed, but please, let's recognize the difference between Jews and Zionists. Many Jews hate Zionism.

Well, when are Jews going to oust Bibi and his right wing religious minions?

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The IDF put a baby in an oven and baked it in front of it’s father.

Let that sink in.

The IDF is raping women in front of their children then executing them all at Al Shifa hospital RIGHT NOW.

Everything that has been debunked that they claimed was done by “hamas” they are doing to innocent Palestinians. I will NEVER, EVER support Israel.

Our government hid 3 BILLION for Israel and has pledged to defund any UN agency that backs Palestine in the newest bill that was just passed. DISGUSTING.

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Anonymous wrote:For the few of you pro-“Palestinian” Liberals who are not flagrant and open Hamas supporters, you should see this:

https://www.newsweek.com/hamas-issues-2024-election-warning-joe-biden-1882459#:~:text=U.S.%20President%20Joe%20Biden's,Palestinian%20Hamas%20movement%20told%20Newsweek.

For the few of you who are not openly anti-Semitic, Hamas supporters, you are being used to bring Hamas’ Jewish genocide agenda to the United States, they are no longer even hiding it - Petitioning the American President openly to blatantly support their Genocide.

You can still turn around, and do the right thing. You can admit your underlying anti-Semitism, and decide to embrace Israel, and support their mission without reservation in their desperate attempt to survive as a nation. But that time is fading fast, and it takes strong, clear actions to turn this Country around and to support Israel.

I am not a "liberal", a "Hamas supporter", or "anti-Semitic".

There is no world in which I would support and cheer on deliberate state-sponsored starvation.

1) If you do not support Israel in their mission at this point, you are either a Hamas Supporter and anti-Semitic, or incredibly naive.

2) Israel is giving Palestine aid. They just aren’t handing it over to Hamas/UNRWA to be sold to fund their active genocide against the Jewish people.

1. No, that is not anywhere close to being true and you are not only harming Israel but also making the term anti-Semitic meaningless by pushing such obviously disengenuous spin.


2. No they aren't. Israel itself is giving zero aid. Any aid that enters is entirely coming from and being paid for by third party countries like the US. Israel, according to its own Finance Minister, is enacting collective punishment and deliberately trying to starve the population of Gaza. This is shown not only by his own statements but also by their known actions and has been confirmed by a host of neutral third party countries and organizations. There's a reason why the US is building a jetty and airdropping rations.

1) Suit yourself. But when Jewish people say you are anti-Semitic and promoting Jewish genocide, maybe you should listen. In the 1920s what do you think Jewish people were saying? We have been through this again. And promised that it would happen never again, but here we are…

2) And why should they? Israel is letting hundreds of trucks of aid in a day, after careful vetting and required safety inspections. Which is getting increasingly hard, because after Israel cutting of Hamas’ UNRWA arm, now Hamas has been increasingly getting violent, attacking aid convoys, and putting the brave Israeli and Egyptian aid drivers’ lives at risk, all because of just how successful Israel has been in providing aid to the Palestinian people while preventing the same aid from being used by Hamas in their genocidal mission. In a decade, the Israeli aid mission will be studied as an example of Humanitarian aid done right in a tense, harsh situation.

But you are moving goalposts. First it was that “OMG Israel isn’t letting aid in!” Now apparently it is, “OMG Israel isn’t single handedly funding the aid shipments to a country that actively prays for the genocide of the Jewish population! How dare they!”

Oh my goodness. I have to laugh .

There wouldn’t be need for humanitarian aid if there wasn’t a famine .

The first thing Israel did was cut off water and fuel and the first things struck were the bakeries and the flour mills in this war . Kinda hard to farm , cook, or import food or run a store or a hospital without electricity, water, or fuel

Let that be a lesson the next time they want to attack Israel.

And why haven't they been able to produce their own water and electricity in 18 years?

Maybe if they concentrated on developing their 25 miles of coast on the Mediterranean instead of constantly waging war on Israel, they'd be an independent, thriving state today? Israel gave Gaza back to them in 2005 and immediately, they destroyed much of the infrastructure in anger and began attacking Israel from Gaza.

NO sympathy.

Hamas stole all the money they were given to do those things and tore up the water pipes and used them to make rockets to fire at Israeli civilians.

Also, it takes ZERO mental gymnastics to understand that there would be no famine problem at all in Palestine right now if Palestine hadn't attacked Israel on 10/7. That's just a fact.

NP. Nobody buys the outrageous lie that Gaza would have been left in peace if 10/7 had not happened.

How conveniently you forget that Israel was 18 years (18 YEARS!) into a full, complete land, sea and air blockade of Gaza when 10/7 occurred! Those people had their land stolen by Israel 75 years ago, have been under 24/7 threat of extrajudicial killing since then, and have been imprisoned by Israel for no crime other than being inconvenient natives since … but you want to pretend that 10/7 is the real story here. GTFOH.

Simple test of logic: Were Palestinians starving prior to 10/7? No.

This is because of 10/7.

Done. End of story. No amount of your dumb spin and excuse-making will change that. NONE.

No, it’s because Israel has lost its soul and gone super right wing. It’s gone to war with Palestinians several times before and never facilitated a famine. I remember back in the 90s, Palestinian pregnant women and children even used to even be treated by Israeli doctors and hospitals and the families would be grateful and thanking the Jewish doctors . Hamas barely had much mobilization then as it’s hard to demonize Israel/Israelis when most Palestinians know their doctors were the ones helping. It’s a strange paradox when the source of the injury is also the source of the revival but that’s what gave Israel credibility as a Western democracy and ethnic cleansing/ war crime victims, and it’s also just good Jewish morals and ethics in practice. Netanyahu era started all this ugliness and callousness with settlements and super bombs and he thinks he is keeping Israel safe .

Lots of words but in all of it you cannot refute or argue the fact that prior to the Hamas massacre on 10/7, no Palestinians were starving.

Cause and effect. You fail at logic.

The cause of the starvation is Israeli Government action which is deliberately doing so in order to collectively punish Palestinians.

This is not the big logical win you think it is.

Again, none of this would be happening were it not for 10/7. You cannot escape that.

Yours is the logic of a psychopath.
Let me give you an analogy to your poor logic. Let's say your DD stole a ring from a jewelry store, and refused to return it. The store owners repeated asked her to return the jewelry, but she didn't, so the owners decided to bomb her entire neighborhood and then cut off the water supply to the town and barricade the roads. Your reasoning is well 500 people wouldn't be dead and starving if she hadn't stolen the jewelry and all she had t do was return the ring. The owners are not just being bullies, they are psychopathic. The owners are Israel.
I can't tell if you're actually low IQ or just being a troll, but clearly the rest of the world sees a distressingly disproportionate response to Hamas's crime. How else does a collective people turn a blind eye to the deliberate starvation of babies and the slaughter of their parents?

Again, none of this would be happening were it not for 10/7. You and your namecalling and your spinning and your bogus analogies cannot escape that. Complete logic fail and extremely dishonest and disingenuous of you to keep trying to write 10/7 out of the equation and to ignore that an overwhelming majority of Palestinians endorsed the 10/7 massacre.

To be clear, you believe that Israelis should slaughter innocent children because their grandparents supposedly "endorsed" (but did not actually commit) crimes?

No. I think Gazans need to reject this. If 72% of Gazans instead agreed that 10/7 was horrific and demanded that Hamas surrender that could end this and people could return to their lives.

Not really. Firstly your math doesn't work out. Over 50% of Gazans are children. So 72% of the population is an impossibility. Secondly, Bibi (Smotrich and Ben Gvir) have made it quite clear that nothing will change regardless of what Palestinians think or do. Heck, they don't even acknowledge that Palestinians exist.

Nope. Overwhelming percentage of poll respondents said they agree with the 10/7 massacre. That's a poll conducted by Palestinians on the ground in Palestine. Here's the poll and the methodology. https://pcpsr.org/en/node/969 There's nothing "wrong with the math" - you're just mad that it doesn't give you an out and takes away your phony arguments and high ground. Your complaints and arguments are illegitimate.

You're blinded by your own zeal. If 50% of a population is too young to have an opinion/respond to a poll then the maximum any response could give is 50% (assuming 100% adult agreement).

Stop being obtuse, stop making up bogus arguments, and READ. THE. DAMN. LINK.

https://pcpsr.org/en/node/969

That's the main problem with nuts like you - you cling desperately to your stale, old, debunked arguments and opinions even in the face of information that's far more concrete and which would actually answer your "math problem" if you actually READ for a change.

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Israel has shown they are evil. Support them if you want but make no mistake Israel does not have the moral high ground.

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Anonymous wrote:The IDF put a baby in an oven and baked it in front of it’s father.

Let that sink in.

The IDF is raping women in front of their children then executing them all at Al Shifa hospital RIGHT NOW.

Everything that has been debunked that they claimed was done by “hamas” they are doing to innocent Palestinians. I will NEVER, EVER support Israel.

Our government hid 3 BILLION for Israel and has pledged to defund any UN agency that backs Palestine in the newest bill that was just passed. DISGUSTING.

Do you have citations from credible sources to back up your wild claims about the IDF baking babies in ovens or raping women in front of their children?

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Anonymous wrote:For the few of you pro-“Palestinian” Liberals who are not flagrant and open Hamas supporters, you should see this:

https://www.newsweek.com/hamas-issues-2024-election-warning-joe-biden-1882459#:~:text=U.S.%20President%20Joe%20Biden's,Palestinian%20Hamas%20movement%20told%20Newsweek.

For the few of you who are not openly anti-Semitic, Hamas supporters, you are being used to bring Hamas’ Jewish genocide agenda to the United States, they are no longer even hiding it - Petitioning the American President openly to blatantly support their Genocide.

You can still turn around, and do the right thing. You can admit your underlying anti-Semitism, and decide to embrace Israel, and support their mission without reservation in their desperate attempt to survive as a nation. But that time is fading fast, and it takes strong, clear actions to turn this Country around and to support Israel.

I am not a "liberal", a "Hamas supporter", or "anti-Semitic".

There is no world in which I would support and cheer on deliberate state-sponsored starvation.

1) If you do not support Israel in their mission at this point, you are either a Hamas Supporter and anti-Semitic, or incredibly naive.

2) Israel is giving Palestine aid. They just aren’t handing it over to Hamas/UNRWA to be sold to fund their active genocide against the Jewish people.

1. No, that is not anywhere close to being true and you are not only harming Israel but also making the term anti-Semitic meaningless by pushing such obviously disengenuous spin.


2. No they aren't. Israel itself is giving zero aid. Any aid that enters is entirely coming from and being paid for by third party countries like the US. Israel, according to its own Finance Minister, is enacting collective punishment and deliberately trying to starve the population of Gaza. This is shown not only by his own statements but also by their known actions and has been confirmed by a host of neutral third party countries and organizations. There's a reason why the US is building a jetty and airdropping rations.

1) Suit yourself. But when Jewish people say you are anti-Semitic and promoting Jewish genocide, maybe you should listen. In the 1920s what do you think Jewish people were saying? We have been through this again. And promised that it would happen never again, but here we are…

2) And why should they? Israel is letting hundreds of trucks of aid in a day, after careful vetting and required safety inspections. Which is getting increasingly hard, because after Israel cutting of Hamas’ UNRWA arm, now Hamas has been increasingly getting violent, attacking aid convoys, and putting the brave Israeli and Egyptian aid drivers’ lives at risk, all because of just how successful Israel has been in providing aid to the Palestinian people while preventing the same aid from being used by Hamas in their genocidal mission. In a decade, the Israeli aid mission will be studied as an example of Humanitarian aid done right in a tense, harsh situation.

But you are moving goalposts. First it was that “OMG Israel isn’t letting aid in!” Now apparently it is, “OMG Israel isn’t single handedly funding the aid shipments to a country that actively prays for the genocide of the Jewish population! How dare they!”

Oh my goodness. I have to laugh .

There wouldn’t be need for humanitarian aid if there wasn’t a famine .

The first thing Israel did was cut off water and fuel and the first things struck were the bakeries and the flour mills in this war . Kinda hard to farm , cook, or import food or run a store or a hospital without electricity, water, or fuel

Let that be a lesson the next time they want to attack Israel.

And why haven't they been able to produce their own water and electricity in 18 years?

Maybe if they concentrated on developing their 25 miles of coast on the Mediterranean instead of constantly waging war on Israel, they'd be an independent, thriving state today? Israel gave Gaza back to them in 2005 and immediately, they destroyed much of the infrastructure in anger and began attacking Israel from Gaza.

NO sympathy.

Hamas stole all the money they were given to do those things and tore up the water pipes and used them to make rockets to fire at Israeli civilians.

Also, it takes ZERO mental gymnastics to understand that there would be no famine problem at all in Palestine right now if Palestine hadn't attacked Israel on 10/7. That's just a fact.

NP. Nobody buys the outrageous lie that Gaza would have been left in peace if 10/7 had not happened.

How conveniently you forget that Israel was 18 years (18 YEARS!) into a full, complete land, sea and air blockade of Gaza when 10/7 occurred! Those people had their land stolen by Israel 75 years ago, have been under 24/7 threat of extrajudicial killing since then, and have been imprisoned by Israel for no crime other than being inconvenient natives since … but you want to pretend that 10/7 is the real story here. GTFOH.

Simple test of logic: Were Palestinians starving prior to 10/7? No.

This is because of 10/7.

Done. End of story. No amount of your dumb spin and excuse-making will change that. NONE.

No, it’s because Israel has lost its soul and gone super right wing. It’s gone to war with Palestinians several times before and never facilitated a famine. I remember back in the 90s, Palestinian pregnant women and children even used to even be treated by Israeli doctors and hospitals and the families would be grateful and thanking the Jewish doctors . Hamas barely had much mobilization then as it’s hard to demonize Israel/Israelis when most Palestinians know their doctors were the ones helping. It’s a strange paradox when the source of the injury is also the source of the revival but that’s what gave Israel credibility as a Western democracy and ethnic cleansing/ war crime victims, and it’s also just good Jewish morals and ethics in practice. Netanyahu era started all this ugliness and callousness with settlements and super bombs and he thinks he is keeping Israel safe .

Lots of words but in all of it you cannot refute or argue the fact that prior to the Hamas massacre on 10/7, no Palestinians were starving.

Cause and effect. You fail at logic.

The cause of the starvation is Israeli Government action which is deliberately doing so in order to collectively punish Palestinians.

This is not the big logical win you think it is.

Again, none of this would be happening were it not for 10/7. You cannot escape that.

Yours is the logic of a psychopath.
Let me give you an analogy to your poor logic. Let's say your DD stole a ring from a jewelry store, and refused to return it. The store owners repeated asked her to return the jewelry, but she didn't, so the owners decided to bomb her entire neighborhood and then cut off the water supply to the town and barricade the roads. Your reasoning is well 500 people wouldn't be dead and starving if she hadn't stolen the jewelry and all she had t do was return the ring. The owners are not just being bullies, they are psychopathic. The owners are Israel.
I can't tell if you're actually low IQ or just being a troll, but clearly the rest of the world sees a distressingly disproportionate response to Hamas's crime. How else does a collective people turn a blind eye to the deliberate starvation of babies and the slaughter of their parents?

Murdering 1200 and injuring thousands is different than stealing a ring

And murdering 30k+ and injuring tens of thousands is on a different level as well.

The 30k amplified by the fact of Hamas hiding among civilian populations and using them as human shields, along with Hamas stealing the food, medicine, water and supplies for their own troops while leaving fellow Palestinians to starve. If Hamas wasn't such a group of violent callous, scumbags a lot of Palestinians could have been spared.

That's an absolute fact that cannot be disputed or denied. Hamas is every bit, if not more complicit in those deaths as the IDF. There is no getting around that fact.