Columbia University becomes first Ivy League institution to go permanently test-optional
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Anonymous
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I think other T20s will adopt the same policies soon or are waiting for Supreme Court’s decision on affirmative action.
Article link: https://www.highereddive.com/news/columbia-university-becomes-first-ivy-league-institution-to-go-permanently/643947/ |
Anonymous
| Yep... best way to hide their discrimination. |
Anonymous
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It’s created the awful situation we are in now with too many applicants at any given school. It’s a factor that should be considered along with grades and Eva and recs.
The holistic admissions are ruining college education. |
Anonymous
| Ridiculous! |
Anonymous
Sounds like this test doesn't provide any helpful information about student outcomes so not all that ridiciulous. |
Anonymous
| Essay optional is on the way. Between paid essay coaches and AI, there are too many equity issues, etc, and it will no longer be an indicator of a top applicant. If schools want writing samples, they will need to get them during timed standardized test situations. |
Anonymous
What discrimination? You do understand it's perfectly acceptable to accept students with lower test scores? For whatever reason they want? And that choosing to have just a disproportionate amount of Asian students versus a GROSSLY disproportionate amount of Asian students is perfectly valid discrimination, right? It's discimination in the sense that when you choose red wine to drink over white wine, you've discriminated against the white wine. Oh well. It doesn't make it wrong. |
Anonymous
DP but no I do not understand that and the SUpreme Court is about to outlaw it |
Anonymous
I think that's something that woke folks like to repeat a lot, but it's simply not true, or at the very least not settled. Yes, there are some studies that do not find a strong link between standardized test scores and college performance, but there are other studies that find it to be a strong predictor or even the strongest predictor. For example, this 2009 paper (https://psycnet.apa.org/record/2009-21033-009) |
Anonymous
??? You are completely wrong. All the studies by MIT, UC, etc.. proved that standardized tests are good indication for academic success in colleges. |
Anonymous
Interviews may become mandatory. And at that point the interviewer can note "I don't like this kids attitude" and its game over -again. |
Anonymous
| I think the Ivies are going to move toward a nomination/interview system, like the Morehead-Cain. |
Anonymous
The funny thing about interviews is that the secret Harvard data shows asian kids do better than other races on their interviews too. So literally asian kids do better, on average, on every single metric. EXCEPT THE "PERSONALITY RATING" given by the admissions officers. How is impressing an interviewer not considered a good metric of "personality?" These admissions departments are perverting and distorting every single semi-valid metric to achieve their own social engineering goals. Insane. |
Anonymous
+1000, this finding came out of the lawsuit against Harvard. |
Anonymous
NP. You are completely wrong. The results from studies are mixed—some say test scores don’t correlate with success, some say they do, some say they correlate but aren’t the best predictor of success. There is no definitive evidence in any direction. And what schools going test-optional seem to be finding is that they can select successful students without test scores, so they are removing it as a required factor in admissions. |