Is this ethical?

Anonymous
DH is at the SES level at a federal agency. DS will be graduating in about three months and is looking for a job in Project Management. One of the Project Manager contractors under DH's supervision has offered to take DS's resume to another PM in another federal agency. This is just a formality and that DS will be hired for a job at a different agency. Is this ethical?
Anonymous
Not even close to ethical.
Anonymous
No way. Not in a million years. And if you have to ask, you KNOW the answer already.
Anonymous
Yes, it is unethical. Your DH not taking his annual ethics' training?
Anonymous
I see nothing wrong here
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I see nothing wrong here


because the whole thing is wrong
Anonymous
This is OP. I asked because I work in the private sector for a fortune 500, and people in the private sector do it all the time for their children, relatives, neighbors' kids, friends, etc... I did it a few times myself. What is such a big deal about it?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:This is OP. I asked because I work in the private sector for a fortune 500, and people in the private sector do it all the time for their children, relatives, neighbors' kids, friends, etc... I did it a few times myself. What is such a big deal about it?


Not an expert, but I believe governmental agencies are subject to more stringent hiring laws/policies than companies in private industry. I could be wrong.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:This is OP. I asked because I work in the private sector for a fortune 500, and people in the private sector do it all the time for their children, relatives, neighbors' kids, friends, etc... I did it a few times myself. What is such a big deal about it?


Every agency has hiring manager training. Maybe you should suggest DH take it, because this violates just about all of it
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:This is OP. I asked because I work in the private sector for a fortune 500, and people in the private sector do it all the time for their children, relatives, neighbors' kids, friends, etc... I did it a few times myself. What is such a big deal about it?


Unfortunately OP Gov jobs are under different guidelines. Absolutely people do it in the private sector all the time.
Anonymous
Your husband needs to talk to his ethics officer, but my guess is that it's not ethical. A subordinate is promoting (in the sense of putting forward/recommending) his boss's kid.
Anonymous
Just to break it down for OP

Anonymous wrote:DH is at the SES level at a federal agency. DS will be graduating in about three months and is looking for a job in Project Management. One of the Project Manager contractors under DH's supervision has offered to take DS's resume to another PM in another federal agency.
definitely unethical, maybe a crime
This is just a formality
unethical and a violation of hiring regulations
and that DS will be hired for a job at a different agency. Is this ethical?
Anonymous
DS cannot for work or under the supervisory umbrella of DH...

DH knows a PM contractor. shows DS resume to PM contractor.

PM contractor take DS resume to another PM in another agency

DS still has to apply for the job and still has to get hired by the other agency.

this is called networking.

Anonymous
Of course it’s unethical. It’s no different than if your husband took a bribe from the contractor.

What’s acceptable in the private sector is irrelevant. It’s also common for private sector contractors to spend enormous sums of money on dining/entertainment for their corporate clients, but that doesn’t mean it’s permissible in government.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:DS cannot for work or under the supervisory umbrella of DH...

DH knows a PM contractor. shows DS resume to PM contractor.

PM contractor take DS resume to another PM in another agency

DS still has to apply for the job and still has to get hired by the other agency.

this is called networking.



That's networking in the private sector. A contractor whose contract you supervise placing a relative in a job may be a crime for a federal employee.

For anyone who doesn't remember

Ms. Druyun said that Boeing would not have been selected for some military projects or would have received lower payments if not for her efforts to obtain jobs for herself, her daughter and her son-in-law.

https://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/02/business/expentagon-official-gets-9-months-for-conspiring-to-favor-boeing.html
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