Taylor's Feb Rec for Crown Boundary Study

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Anonymous wrote:Happy Saturday y’all. Dufief mom here. I heard my name was dropped last night. No hard feelings about whomever did that - I just want to say having read this very long thread that kids should be 1000000% off limits, period. We keep our heads held high and stick to facts and our various POV. Make our kids proud for advocating for what we think is best for them and our community. Reading these vitriolic petty attacks makes me feel like I’m in a mean girls movie. Yuck.
Anyway, regardless of what the vote is, I am looking forward to the next phase of building bridges with whomever will be at the new Wootton at either location. Even though I support the rec, this process could have been much more thoughtful and solicitous of affected communities. I respect others pursuing in good faith paths they think might give them clarity even if I don’t agree as to the legal merit. Anything we learn that can improve this process for the ES study will be helpful.

Just saying thanks for this post, that’s all!

Especially appreciate the “Even though I support the rec, this process could have been much more thoughtful and solicitous of affected communities. I respect others pursuing in good faith paths they think might give them clarity even if I don’t agree as to the legal merit. Anything we learn that can improve this process for the ES study will be helpful.”

I’ve long said, if this process was done the right way, starting first with the superintendent coming to the cluster before the option came out to explain it first to us OR coming to visit us within the first week or 2, perhaps we wouldn’t be feeling this frustrated. Personally, I could have been convinced to stay out of the way of it even if I don’t agree with it.

But not like this. This was a sham of a process. I do hope the lawsuit will make MCPS tighten up especially for the ES boundary coming up.

You were never guaranteed a specific school when you bought your house. We are all going through redistricting and changes. You make it sound like Wootton is the only one. The difference is we are dealing with it and if we don't like the changes will move or go private. You all brought this upon yourself by saying the building is immediately unsafe. MCPS is giving you a new school. Be grateful. Many of us would jump at the chance for a new school.

DP.

It’s true that nobody is “guaranteed” a specific school assignment. But people absolutely make major life decisions based on stable public infrastructure. When families buy homes near a high school that has been in the same place for decades, it’s reasonable to expect that the school itself isn’t going to be moved miles away. That’s not about entitlement—it’s about relying on long-standing public planning when making the biggest financial investment most people will ever make.

And while a new building sounds great in theory, a new building in a different location isn’t automatically an upgrade. A school isn’t just the physical structure; it’s the role it plays in the surrounding community. A brand-new building in a high-traffic urban area doesn’t replace the value of a neighborhood school that students can reach easily and that families feel connected to.

Finally, saying “just move or go private if you don’t like it” really isn’t a serious answer. Public schools are supposed to serve the communities that already exist around them. If there were planning mistakes, enrollment projection errors, or maintenance decisions that created this situation, those should be addressed directly rather than solved by asking one community to absorb the full impact of losing its neighborhood school.

Without the DCC, we will have to move or go private. You don’t think this impacts all of us. We’d gladly take a new close by school over our old run down one with broken equipment, flooding, limited heat and ac, broken equipment, no hand on labs for science class due to funding, broken musical instruments that don’t get repaired, no sports uniforms or transportation for sports, limited classes, etc. You have no idea what it’s like at other schools.

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Anonymous wrote:And process for closing a school is required by law.

I can agree or empathize with every single point Fallsmead parents have stated on this page except for this. It’s not closing a school. It’s relocating it. Yes it’s been rushed, no it hasn’t been transparent. But it’s not closing and mcps has been very careful to check all the boxes to ensure it can’t be framed as closing. When you insist on it being a closure you lose credibility.

I’m not so sure about that. It’s been so rushed, no transparency - that’s not good process. How do we know they checked all the boxes?

And I’m just another MoCo resident - not affected by this, but it doesn’t look great to me.

What makes it rushed and not transparent? I ask the question sincerely. What amount of time would be adequate and based on what metric or policy/process?

And what “transparency” is lacking?

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Anonymous wrote:Fallsmead and Lakewood are mad because they weren’t at all impacted by the first 2 rounds of boundary study options so they weren’t paying attention. They didn’t care if any of the other feeders got pulled to other schools. Then they thought they could capitalize so much with their “option W” and they presented all the grave concerns with the Wootton building so perfectly, pictures and proof of the crumbling building and mold. So yeah the BOE rushed to help because they had been given all of the justification needed to relocate students! They did the work for the rest of the cluster, now they sad about it.

Woah woah. You sound like you are mad that Fallsmead and Lakewood didn’t care about “other feeders” being pulled into Crown. Aren’t these the same feeders who are saying Wootton is unsafe. Shouldn’t they have been happy to being pulled into Crown during the first two rounds?

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Anonymous wrote:If you have been watching their rants on Facebook and in their testimonies, these are people who are not used to not getting their way. So what if they have to do less than above board stuff to get what they want-to them the ends justify the means. These people are not smart just bullies. Thankfully, they’ll lose and all their children will be ostracized at Crown. I would feel badly for the children but I’ve interacted with at least one of their kids and suffice to say, also not a winner.

100%. Forget the NP schools being ostracized, it will be the other way around. The three NP schools are already connected. You’re right about these ppl not being used to not getting their way - everyone must get a medal and all the things!!

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It is very serious to say you do have options if you don’t like what happens. Accept, move, private, and even litigation. Most of those choices allow you to pick what you want but litigation is leaving it up to a judge at this point. People make these choices all the time. Maybe you have chosen wisely and maybe not.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow Dufief, now I get the hate.
First it was calling people personally out by name and now it’s saying their kids are losers.

Fantastic examples of level-headed community advocacy. Keep up the great work. You all look wonderful in the community. A+!

The poster literally said they aren't in the Wootton cluster? Reading comprehension. But you're clearly not very smart.

lol his comment came a minute before. Can’t exactly read a comment that didn’t exist when I was responding.

But keep going with your name calling! You and the poster—who is a teacher that enjoys calling kids losers—would make such great friends.

Stay classy Dufief & friends.

Not Dufief. Try again.

Reading comprehension back at ya 😉
It’s Dufief & friends

But again love the doubling down for you.
“No I refuse to stay classy. I will continue to call minor children losers. I teach kids. It’s my right to call them losers.”

Are you parkway people really so self-absorbed that you can't imagine other parts of the county might take issue with what you are doing?

You can be from anywhere. I draw the line at adults— a teacher no less—name calling kids.

I don’t care where you stand on the boundary study.

Oh, get a life. So sensitive. So many jabs on here and suddenly you grasp your pearls? Pfft. Maybe you’re the loser kid’s parent.

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Anonymous wrote:And process for closing a school is required by law.

I can agree or empathize with every single point Fallsmead parents have stated on this page except for this. It’s not closing a school. It’s relocating it. Yes it’s been rushed, no it hasn’t been transparent. But it’s not closing and mcps has been very careful to check all the boxes to ensure it can’t be framed as closing. When you insist on it being a closure you lose credibility.

I’m not so sure about that. It’s been so rushed, no transparency - that’s not good process. How do we know they checked all the boxes?

And I’m just another MoCo resident - not affected by this, but it doesn’t look great to me.

What makes it rushed and not transparent? I ask the question sincerely. What amount of time would be adequate and based on what metric or policy/process?

And what “transparency” is lacking?

Compare to Woodward process. From the beginning.

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Anonymous wrote:We are not at all impacted by Option H, but compare the process to Woodward. WJ and DCC parents have had input for YEARS (I think maybe a decade or so) on Woodward. There have been many, many hearings etc.

Now Woodward families may not like the result (and likely more input should have been sought from Wheaton Woods), but MCPS and the BOE have provided process.

Due process matters.

Families have not had input. Some families have been put into situations where the school assignment makes no sense and for low income without cars it’s impossible to get back and forth after school hours and we lose a access to the dcc for higher level and speciality classes. No stem for us, or it means we have to figure out how to get our kids to schools not close to us where they aren’t wanted assuming they will even accept the kids.

I think you mean the regional program as well - and I agree with you.

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Anonymous wrote:And process for closing a school is required by law.

I can agree or empathize with every single point Fallsmead parents have stated on this page except for this. It’s not closing a school. It’s relocating it. Yes it’s been rushed, no it hasn’t been transparent. But it’s not closing and mcps has been very careful to check all the boxes to ensure it can’t be framed as closing. When you insist on it being a closure you lose credibility.

I’m not so sure about that. It’s been so rushed, no transparency - that’s not good process. How do we know they checked all the boxes?

And I’m just another MoCo resident - not affected by this, but it doesn’t look great to me.

What makes it rushed and not transparent? I ask the question sincerely. What amount of time would be adequate and based on what metric or policy/process?

And what “transparency” is lacking?

Compare to Woodward process. From the beginning.

We’re going to need more than that. Multiple posters have posed this very real question, respectfully trying to understand

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Anonymous wrote:Wow Dufief, now I get the hate.
First it was calling people personally out by name and now it’s saying their kids are losers.

Fantastic examples of level-headed community advocacy. Keep up the great work. You all look wonderful in the community. A+!

The poster literally said they aren't in the Wootton cluster? Reading comprehension. But you're clearly not very smart.

lol his comment came a minute before. Can’t exactly read a comment that didn’t exist when I was responding.

But keep going with your name calling! You and the poster—who is a teacher that enjoys calling kids losers—would make such great friends.

Stay classy Dufief & friends.

Not Dufief. Try again.

Reading comprehension back at ya 😉
It’s Dufief & friends

But again love the doubling down for you.
“No I refuse to stay classy. I will continue to call minor children losers. I teach kids. It’s my right to call them losers.”

Are you parkway people really so self-absorbed that you can't imagine other parts of the county might take issue with what you are doing?

You can be from anywhere. I draw the line at adults— a teacher no less—name calling kids.

I don’t care where you stand on the boundary study.

Oh, get a life. So sensitive. So many jabs on here and suddenly you grasp your pearls? Pfft. Maybe you’re the loser kid’s parent.

Cool, we’re back to calling kids losers.
Excellent advocacy for H. Keep it up.

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In the past, I believe MCPS has gone door to door getting input, to make sure they were getting feedback from communities that don’t participate in the usual process. (I think this was part of the RM elementary school redistricting.)

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Anonymous wrote:If you have been watching their rants on Facebook and in their testimonies, these are people who are not used to not getting their way. So what if they have to do less than above board stuff to get what they want-to them the ends justify the means. These people are not smart just bullies. Thankfully, they’ll lose and all their children will be ostracized at Crown. I would feel badly for the children but I’ve interacted with at least one of their kids and suffice to say, also not a winner.

100%. Forget the NP schools being ostracized, it will be the other way around. The three NP schools are already connected. You’re right about these ppl not being used to not getting their way - everyone must get a medal and all the things!!

LOL Travilah and SM are not with Dufief. Try again.

But also for the last time, no kid is going to ostracize another because of how their mommy or daddy felt

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Seemed like a good idea to do both Crown and Woodward at the same time, plus regional programs. But the reality is MCPS has taken on too much at one time.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow Dufief, now I get the hate.
First it was calling people personally out by name and now it’s saying their kids are losers.

Fantastic examples of level-headed community advocacy. Keep up the great work. You all look wonderful in the community. A+!

The poster literally said they aren't in the Wootton cluster? Reading comprehension. But you're clearly not very smart.

lol his comment came a minute before. Can’t exactly read a comment that didn’t exist when I was responding.

But keep going with your name calling! You and the poster—who is a teacher that enjoys calling kids losers—would make such great friends.

Stay classy Dufief & friends.

Not Dufief. Try again.

Reading comprehension back at ya 😉
It’s Dufief & friends

But again love the doubling down for you.
“No I refuse to stay classy. I will continue to call minor children losers. I teach kids. It’s my right to call them losers.”

Are you parkway people really so self-absorbed that you can't imagine other parts of the county might take issue with what you are doing?

You can be from anywhere. I draw the line at adults— a teacher no less—name calling kids.

I don’t care where you stand on the boundary study.

Oh, get a life. So sensitive. So many jabs on here and suddenly you grasp your pearls? Pfft. Maybe you’re the loser kid’s parent.

Don’t stand for this. Pro H, anti H, neutral. Don’t support this.

You can make as many low digs and jabs as you want against adults. Immature but go for it. Dont target people’s kids.

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Anonymous wrote:In the past, I believe MCPS has gone door to door getting input, to make sure they were getting feedback from communities that don’t participate in the usual process. (I think this was part of the RM elementary school redistricting.)

I was very involved in that process and MCPS did not go door to door. Independent parent associations took it upon themselves to walk neighborhoods making sure that families knew what was going on and how to submit feedback.

MCPS itself did not knock doors.