SecDef shares US war Plan in Group chat

[Anonymous]

The contact data for those involved in this leak is freely available online according to Spiegel International. That includes mobile phone numbers, email addresses, and even some passwords.

https://www.spiegel.de/international/world/hegseth-waltz-gabbard-private-data-and-passwords-of-senior-u-s-security-officials-found-online-a-14221f90-e5c2-48e5-bc63-10b705521fb7

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think the bigger issue is that we only found out about this bc Goldberg was brave enough to come forward about it. What else is being discussed via Signal or other unapproved channels?

It is an approved channel.

They were warned not to use it. Try again, MAGA.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/nsa-signal-app-vulnerabilities-before-houthi-strike-chat/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anyone asking how or why?

I'm with you, " how and why " should be the focus plus an immediate enforcement of SCIF only discussions moving forward.

In my book Goldberg doesn't look too good in this either. In my profession if I receive confidential information that I have no reason to receive, my professional training would be to immediately call it to the attention of the sender and delete the information . In this case, Goldberg should have immediately notified the DNI head so that his phone could be secured by them and analyzed for malware and the mission itself should have been put on hold until all phones involved were collected and studied for malware.

But Goldberg, who incidentally had at one time become a citizen of a foreign country and served in the military in a foreign county, did NOT take this immediate step to secure the US mission by alerting the DNI and POTUS- as was his duty as an American. Perhaps he doesn't truly consider himself one ?

Second question: as many of us know, just like IG and FB " share my contact list" is a means to access the phone numbers and contacts of all of Goldberg's contacts, so , in keeping himself lurking on the chat for 2 days- someone else may have been able to view the battle plans. Perhaps THIS was the Intent all along by the original hacker??

Bottom line- of course, no more Signal, Whats App chats ( both are in AWS servers, btw ) so nothing is secret there to the NSA. NSC needs to accept fact that all Presidential records are discoverable and stop trying work arounds that actually put our troops more at risk.

AND, as we all learned in KDG- if you find something that isn't yours, you immediately return it to the rightful owner. Jeff Goldberg effectively held onto someone's wallet for 2 days, counted it's cash value and deliberated what that could for him and then finally chose how to exploit it. THAT is ultimately, Un-American , IMHO.

NP.

And what is your industry/profession?

Have you ever heard of the expression ‘the fourth estate’? What Goldberg did is exactly what someone in his profession is supposed to do.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anyone asking how or why?

I'm with you, " how and why " should be the focus plus an immediate enforcement of SCIF only discussions moving forward.

In my book Goldberg doesn't look too good in this either. In my profession if I receive confidential information that I have no reason to receive, my professional training would be to immediately call it to the attention of the sender and delete the information . In this case, Goldberg should have immediately notified the DNI head so that his phone could be secured by them and analyzed for malware and the mission itself should have been put on hold until all phones involved were collected and studied for malware.

But Goldberg, who incidentally had at one time become a citizen of a foreign country and served in the military in a foreign county, did NOT take this immediate step to secure the US mission by alerting the DNI and POTUS- as was his duty as an American. Perhaps he doesn't truly consider himself one ?

Second question: as many of us know, just like IG and FB " share my contact list" is a means to access the phone numbers and contacts of all of Goldberg's contacts, so , in keeping himself lurking on the chat for 2 days- someone else may have been able to view the battle plans. Perhaps THIS was the Intent all along by the original hacker??

Bottom line- of course, no more Signal, Whats App chats ( both are in AWS servers, btw ) so nothing is secret there to the NSA. NSC needs to accept fact that all Presidential records are discoverable and stop trying work arounds that actually put our troops more at risk.

AND, as we all learned in KDG- if you find something that isn't yours, you immediately return it to the rightful owner. Jeff Goldberg effectively held onto someone's wallet for 2 days, counted it's cash value and deliberated what that could for him and then finally chose how to exploit it. THAT is ultimately, Un-American , IMHO.

What????? Goldberg was added by morons in error. He had zero responsibility for anything, other than reporting, because that is the job of a journalist, and it is clear he consulted legal before doing anything, writing anything or releasing anything.

This prior poster doesn’t seem to understand what the press is for.

Russian?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anyone asking how or why?

I'm with you, " how and why " should be the focus plus an immediate enforcement of SCIF only discussions moving forward.

In my book Goldberg doesn't look too good in this either. In my profession if I receive confidential information that I have no reason to receive, my professional training would be to immediately call it to the attention of the sender and delete the information . In this case, Goldberg should have immediately notified the DNI head so that his phone could be secured by them and analyzed for malware and the mission itself should have been put on hold until all phones involved were collected and studied for malware.

But Goldberg, who incidentally had at one time become a citizen of a foreign country and served in the military in a foreign county, did NOT take this immediate step to secure the US mission by alerting the DNI and POTUS- as was his duty as an American. Perhaps he doesn't truly consider himself one ?

Second question: as many of us know, just like IG and FB " share my contact list" is a means to access the phone numbers and contacts of all of Goldberg's contacts, so , in keeping himself lurking on the chat for 2 days- someone else may have been able to view the battle plans. Perhaps THIS was the Intent all along by the original hacker??

Bottom line- of course, no more Signal, Whats App chats ( both are in AWS servers, btw ) so nothing is secret there to the NSA. NSC needs to accept fact that all Presidential records are discoverable and stop trying work arounds that actually put our troops more at risk.

AND, as we all learned in KDG- if you find something that isn't yours, you immediately return it to the rightful owner. Jeff Goldberg effectively held onto someone's wallet for 2 days, counted it's cash value and deliberated what that could for him and then finally chose how to exploit it. THAT is ultimately, Un-American , IMHO.

Did you read the Atlantic article? He explained that he initially stayed on the chat because he thought it was either someone spoofing Waltz and trying to trick him so he was curious where it would go (he's a journalist, it's a possibility) or maybe Waltz added him on purpose to give him some information. He wasn't sure it was legit until it was serious.

I am a lawyer and if I receive a misdirected email, I would delete it. I would hope that another lawyer would do the same but I know that not all would. And I know that a journalist might not.

A journalist is SUPPOSED to report on matters of public concern. Does no one realize this???

[Anonymous]

Will MAGA get away with trying to gaslight Americans into thinking this was no big deal and everyone makes mistakes?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why did Congress approve Hegseth et al?!

Ernst and Tillis were receiving death threats from MAGAs for just considering whether or not to vote for Hegseth. And Elon is teed up to spend hundreds of millions to primary any Republican who doesn’t goosestep in lockstep with Trump. This is where we are.

[Anonymous]

And then because we're playing with a full deck of losers, with get MJT with this:

https://news.sky.com/video/marjorie-taylor-greene-snaps-at-sky-correspondent-when-questioned-on-leaked-signal-chat-13336361

Seriously why are these people public officials in 2025?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Jeffrey Goldberg is a f---ing hero for letting us all know that Trump's national security team is failing at their primary job.

They must all be fired.

Fired and sent to prison.

Lock them all up!

Please call your reps and demand they call for Hegseth and Walz resignation and if they don’t, file impeachment.

And It’s insane that ANY DEMOCRATS are confirming more nominations but that’s another issue.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Question for MAGAs: if Goldberg had published the plans before the mission, that would have been ok? I mean, they weren’t classified, right?

And if defence missiles had killed American pilots based on the published intel, that’s just bad luck - because the information wasn’t classified.

I’ll go make some popcorn while I wait for your answer.

MAGA is not posting on this thread. They know what a major f up this whole thing is and are embarrassed.

The smarter ones know they will only dig a deeper hole by commenting or trying to explain. A few dumb ones like 2:12 have tried, but they just prove the point.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Will MAGA get away with trying to gaslight Americans into thinking this was no big deal and everyone makes mistakes?

Of course they will. I just checked these two print sources of MAGA news and here's how they're covering the story in their latest coverage.

Rubio breaks silence on leaked Signal chat: 'Someone made a big mistake'
Rubio reaffirms no intelligence divulged in Signal text exchange
Caitlin McFall By Caitlin McFall Fox News
Published March 26, 2025 3:46pm EDT
https://www.foxnews.com/world/rubio-breaks-silence-leaked-signal-chat-someone-made-big-mistake

NY Post Story
Karoline Leavitt blasts 'discredited' Atlantic editor, says Elon Musk helping investigate Yemen strikes group chat
March 26, 2025 | 3:55pm
https://nypost.com/us-news/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Will MAGA get away with trying to gaslight Americans into thinking this was no big deal and everyone makes mistakes?

Butter EMAILS!!!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Will MAGA get away with trying to gaslight Americans into thinking this was no big deal and everyone makes mistakes?

Of course they will. I just checked these two print sources of MAGA news and here's how they're covering the story in their latest coverage.

Rubio breaks silence on leaked Signal chat: 'Someone made a big mistake'
Rubio reaffirms no intelligence divulged in Signal text exchange
Caitlin McFall By Caitlin McFall Fox News
Published March 26, 2025 3:46pm EDT
https://www.foxnews.com/world/rubio-breaks-silence-leaked-signal-chat-someone-made-big-mistake

NY Post Story
Karoline Leavitt blasts 'discredited' Atlantic editor, says Elon Musk helping investigate Yemen strikes group chat
March 26, 2025 | 3:55pm
https://nypost.com/us-news/

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What is Elon going to do? These people really think he is a technical genius and that mentioning his name means anything worthwhile is going to happen. Given the way he's managed Twitter, seems to be not managing Telsa, and doing who knows what with DOGE(but certainly not efficiency), why associate him with this.

This is how you know they have no solution and that everything the reporter and others have said is true. They are circling the wagons of who to throw out in front of the media and congress. Ironically, Elon hasn't been in attendance to give a report to the public and congress DOGE subcommittee.

Elon needs to go focus on Telsa and finding his own home to sleep in.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anyone asking how or why?

I'm with you, " how and why " should be the focus plus an immediate enforcement of SCIF only discussions moving forward.

In my book Goldberg doesn't look too good in this either. In my profession if I receive confidential information that I have no reason to receive, my professional training would be to immediately call it to the attention of the sender and delete the information . In this case, Goldberg should have immediately notified the DNI head so that his phone could be secured by them and analyzed for malware and the mission itself should have been put on hold until all phones involved were collected and studied for malware.

But Goldberg, who incidentally had at one time become a citizen of a foreign country and served in the military in a foreign county, did NOT take this immediate step to secure the US mission by alerting the DNI and POTUS- as was his duty as an American. Perhaps he doesn't truly consider himself one ?

Second question: as many of us know, just like IG and FB " share my contact list" is a means to access the phone numbers and contacts of all of Goldberg's contacts, so , in keeping himself lurking on the chat for 2 days- someone else may have been able to view the battle plans. Perhaps THIS was the Intent all along by the original hacker??

Bottom line- of course, no more Signal, Whats App chats ( both are in AWS servers, btw ) so nothing is secret there to the NSA. NSC needs to accept fact that all Presidential records are discoverable and stop trying work arounds that actually put our troops more at risk.

AND, as we all learned in KDG- if you find something that isn't yours, you immediately return it to the rightful owner. Jeff Goldberg effectively held onto someone's wallet for 2 days, counted it's cash value and deliberated what that could for him and then finally chose how to exploit it. THAT is ultimately, Un-American , IMHO.

Goldberg is the reason we know that Trump’s Cabinet is acting recklessly.

+1
And I agree that it is not the only instance of this stupidity, it is just the very tip of the iceberg of what really is going on.
What are the chances that he was accidentally added to the only reckless chat out there?

[Anonymous]

Cute, but this is already illegal in at least three different ways so it doesn’t need a new bill to make it illegal?