SecDef shares US war Plan in Group chat

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This all proves, again, that the only person Trump has ever hired who was qualified for and capable of performing the job was Stormy Daniels.

And she’d be a better President than what we now have. Current administration is a f’in clown car.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anyone asking how or why?

I'm with you, " how and why " should be the focus plus an immediate enforcement of SCIF only discussions moving forward.

In my book Goldberg doesn't look too good in this either. In my profession if I receive confidential information that I have no reason to receive, my professional training would be to immediately call it to the attention of the sender and delete the information . In this case, Goldberg should have immediately notified the DNI head so that his phone could be secured by them and analyzed for malware and the mission itself should have been put on hold until all phones involved were collected and studied for malware.

But Goldberg, who incidentally had at one time become a citizen of a foreign country and served in the military in a foreign county, did NOT take this immediate step to secure the US mission by alerting the DNI and POTUS- as was his duty as an American. Perhaps he doesn't truly consider himself one ?

Second question: as many of us know, just like IG and FB " share my contact list" is a means to access the phone numbers and contacts of all of Goldberg's contacts, so , in keeping himself lurking on the chat for 2 days- someone else may have been able to view the battle plans. Perhaps THIS was the Intent all along by the original hacker??

Bottom line- of course, no more Signal, Whats App chats ( both are in AWS servers, btw ) so nothing is secret there to the NSA. NSC needs to accept fact that all Presidential records are discoverable and stop trying work arounds that actually put our troops more at risk.

AND, as we all learned in KDG- if you find something that isn't yours, you immediately return it to the rightful owner. Jeff Goldberg effectively held onto someone's wallet for 2 days, counted it's cash value and deliberated what that could for him and then finally chose how to exploit it. THAT is ultimately, Un-American , IMHO.

What????? Goldberg was added by morons in error. He had zero responsibility for anything, other than reporting, because that is the job of a journalist, and it is clear he consulted legal before doing anything, writing anything or releasing anything.

[Anonymous]

Oh, good grief, it gets even worse...

https://www.spiegel.de/international/world/hegseth-waltz-gabbard-private-data-and-passwords-of-senior-u-s-security-officials-found-online-a-14221f90-e5c2-48e5-bc63-10b705521fb7

Journalists found private phone numbers, email addresses and some passwords for Waltz, Gabbard and Hegseth online

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anyone asking how or why?

I'm with you, " how and why " should be the focus plus an immediate enforcement of SCIF only discussions moving forward.

In my book Goldberg doesn't look too good in this either. In my profession if I receive confidential information that I have no reason to receive, my professional training would be to immediately call it to the attention of the sender and delete the information . In this case, Goldberg should have immediately notified the DNI head so that his phone could be secured by them and analyzed for malware and the mission itself should have been put on hold until all phones involved were collected and studied for malware.

But Goldberg, who incidentally had at one time become a citizen of a foreign country and served in the military in a foreign county, did NOT take this immediate step to secure the US mission by alerting the DNI and POTUS- as was his duty as an American. Perhaps he doesn't truly consider himself one ?

Second question: as many of us know, just like IG and FB " share my contact list" is a means to access the phone numbers and contacts of all of Goldberg's contacts, so , in keeping himself lurking on the chat for 2 days- someone else may have been able to view the battle plans. Perhaps THIS was the Intent all along by the original hacker??

Bottom line- of course, no more Signal, Whats App chats ( both are in AWS servers, btw ) so nothing is secret there to the NSA. NSC needs to accept fact that all Presidential records are discoverable and stop trying work arounds that actually put our troops more at risk.

AND, as we all learned in KDG- if you find something that isn't yours, you immediately return it to the rightful owner. Jeff Goldberg effectively held onto someone's wallet for 2 days, counted it's cash value and deliberated what that could for him and then finally chose how to exploit it. THAT is ultimately, Un-American , IMHO.

Did you read the Atlantic article? He explained that he initially stayed on the chat because he thought it was either someone spoofing Waltz and trying to trick him so he was curious where it would go (he's a journalist, it's a possibility) or maybe Waltz added him on purpose to give him some information. He wasn't sure it was legit until it was serious.

I am a lawyer and if I receive a misdirected email, I would delete it. I would hope that another lawyer would do the same but I know that not all would. And I know that a journalist might not.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:GA Senator Jon Osseff should be on everyone’s radar. He’s got what it takes to run in 2028. Young gun slaughtered them.

I did not know anything about him before watching that. I want to know everything about him now. That is the kind of voice we need.

+1000!!!!!

So glad I posted the video. I’ve had my eye on him for a while due to algorithms bumping him up. He’s 38. Doing the good work in a firm but measured way. I’m not a GA resident, just a NYC Stan. Let’s get him noticed!

I am sharing both videos to everyone I know

I gave him money and wrote postcards for him, and I’d vote for him too, which is why I feel obliged to tell you that this conversation is giving strong “campaign staffers pose as ordinary people on anonymous Internet forum” vibes. I have no idea if you’re real or not, but fyi I’m on your team and that’s how it hits me.

But I sure hope he keeps doing what he does in that video.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Oh, good grief, it gets even worse...

https://www.spiegel.de/international/world/hegseth-waltz-gabbard-private-data-and-passwords-of-senior-u-s-security-officials-found-online-a-14221f90-e5c2-48e5-bc63-10b705521fb7

Journalists found private phone numbers, email addresses and some passwords for Waltz, Gabbard and Hegseth online

Oh my. These people really believe reality doesn’t apply. Manifestly unqualified.

More:

As such, the reporting has revealed an additional grave, previously unknown security breach at the highest levels in Washington. Hostile intelligence services could use this publicly available data to hack the communications of those affected by installing spyware on their devices. It is thus conceivable that foreign agents were privy to the Signal chat group in which Gabbard, Waltz and Hegseth discussed a military strike.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anyone asking how or why?

I'm with you, " how and why " should be the focus plus an immediate enforcement of SCIF only discussions moving forward.

In my book Goldberg doesn't look too good in this either. In my profession if I receive confidential information that I have no reason to receive, my professional training would be to immediately call it to the attention of the sender and delete the information . In this case, Goldberg should have immediately notified the DNI head so that his phone could be secured by them and analyzed for malware and the mission itself should have been put on hold until all phones involved were collected and studied for malware.

But Goldberg, who incidentally had at one time become a citizen of a foreign country and served in the military in a foreign county, did NOT take this immediate step to secure the US mission by alerting the DNI and POTUS- as was his duty as an American. Perhaps he doesn't truly consider himself one ?

Second question: as many of us know, just like IG and FB " share my contact list" is a means to access the phone numbers and contacts of all of Goldberg's contacts, so , in keeping himself lurking on the chat for 2 days- someone else may have been able to view the battle plans. Perhaps THIS was the Intent all along by the original hacker??

Bottom line- of course, no more Signal, Whats App chats ( both are in AWS servers, btw ) so nothing is secret there to the NSA. NSC needs to accept fact that all Presidential records are discoverable and stop trying work arounds that actually put our troops more at risk.

AND, as we all learned in KDG- if you find something that isn't yours, you immediately return it to the rightful owner. Jeff Goldberg effectively held onto someone's wallet for 2 days, counted it's cash value and deliberated what that could for him and then finally chose how to exploit it. THAT is ultimately, Un-American , IMHO.

Did you read the Atlantic article? He explained that he initially stayed on the chat because he thought it was either someone spoofing Waltz and trying to trick him so he was curious where it would go (he's a journalist, it's a possibility) or maybe Waltz added him on purpose to give him some information. He wasn't sure it was legit until it was serious.

I am a lawyer and if I receive a misdirected email, I would delete it. I would hope that another lawyer would do the same but I know that not all would. And I know that a journalist might not.

Lawyers have to delete it because of bar rules. No such rules for journalists - in fact to the extent journalistic ethics apply here, Goldberg followed them to a T by vetting the texts for harmful info before he published them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Oh, good grief, it gets even worse...

https://www.spiegel.de/international/world/hegseth-waltz-gabbard-private-data-and-passwords-of-senior-u-s-security-officials-found-online-a-14221f90-e5c2-48e5-bc63-10b705521fb7

Journalists found private phone numbers, email addresses and some passwords for Waltz, Gabbard and Hegseth online

FFS, it’s like they made my mother a cabinet member.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Oh, good grief, it gets even worse...

https://www.spiegel.de/international/world/hegseth-waltz-gabbard-private-data-and-passwords-of-senior-u-s-security-officials-found-online-a-14221f90-e5c2-48e5-bc63-10b705521fb7

Journalists found private phone numbers, email addresses and some passwords for Waltz, Gabbard and Hegseth online

FFS, it’s like they made my mother a cabinet member.

Right? And my mother keeps her passwords on a scrap of paper. So foreign intelligence would need to go to the trouble of breaking into her house and then locating the scrap of paper - which is not always easily found.

[Anonymous]

Former Naval Aviator weighs in:

[Anonymous]

Jeffrey Goldberg is a f---ing hero for letting us all know that Trump's national security team is failing at their primary job.

They must all be fired.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Jeffrey Goldberg is a f---ing hero for letting us all know that Trump's national security team is failing at their primary job.

They must all be fired.

Fired and sent to prison.

Lock them all up!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think the bigger issue is that we only found out about this bc Goldberg was brave enough to come forward about it. What else is being discussed via Signal or other unapproved channels?

It is an approved channel.

It is not.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:LOL this is such a hoot. Watch Waltz make no sense trying to make sense of how Goldberg's number ended up on his phone and in the group chat. Apparently it "got sucked in." Remember that Waltz claims he has never met Goldberg. To her credit, Laura Ingraham was pretty relentless in pinning him down.

I know this is not the point you are making but it is absolutely disgusting that a man with the privilege of serving at the highest level of United States government would so blithely and publicly call an individual American citizen “bottom scum” and “losers” on national television, and also that any member of the media would allow them to get away with this.

This alone should be cause for firing. It’s disgusting.

I agree but that is the tone set by Trump.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Former Naval Aviator weighs in:

Good insights into the semantics that the administration is trying to spin. But at the end of the day, whether the signal chat included “war plans” or not, it included classified info.