BOE - who are people voting for?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:As a teacher and counselor in MCPS for 35+ years, I love the idea of having a young teacher on the Board, so I’m backing Zimmerman. I’m undecided on the other two. With the number of teachers and administrators quitting or retiring and fewer young people going into teaching, we are heading for a major crisis in the teacher shortage in MCPS. Zimmerman can speak directly to the intense stress teachers face, the lack of support from Central Office and the lack of discipline in the schools. The BOE needs a shake up and needs people who will stand up against the status quo. Clearly the board needs to do a better job overseeing Central Office. These positions need to be made full time so that they can do that but that’s a whole other issue. Zimmerman is facing a huge salary cut by running for the board and I like the guts that this takes.

+1. I think the BOE would benefit from her perspective.

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Perspectives don't matter on a Board. Perspectives matter at hearings.
All that mattes on a Board are voting choices and negotiating ability for votes.

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Anonymous wrote:Perspectives don't matter on a Board. Perspectives matter at hearings.
All that mattes on a Board are voting choices and negotiating ability for votes.

Perspectives affect voting choices.

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Anonymous wrote:I received a campaign ad in the mail from MSEA supporting several candidates that said to "stand up to extremists" and implied that the candidates will not rewrite history of civil rights and racial discrimination. I was not aware that in Montgomery County such extremists were running for school board. Honestly as a Democrat I was highly put off by the ad. It's trying to rile up a base over a non-issue in the bluest of blue counties instead of taking serious positions on pressing issues.

Then you haven't been paying attention, because yes they actually are running for school board in Montgomery County, and yes it actually is a serious issue.

Scare mongering is alive and well in MoCo. MAGA isnt coming for your kids so calm down. Parents are tired of being lied to and seeing scandal after scandal come out of MCPS. Change is needed- accountability isn’t the rw boogeyman or MAGA dog whistle so chill out. Even if new people are elected, they’re going to have a big job ahead of them. They’ll have to work with the other BOE members as well as MCPS- both of whom seem loathe to any change or transparency.

BS no Moms4Liberty should be voted for ever.

And that is just an opinion which is not factual.

Wrong it’s factual

What in the world is good about moms4liberty ?

They know nothing about academics they are a hate group they want religion back in schools with chaplains instead of counselors


Glad you support the racist dumb brainless crowd

By the way which religion in schools???? Church of Satan Muslim Baptist Catholic Jewish you only get one moron.

More of your opinions and not facts.
You are recognizable with your obsessive postings. You have no credibility and even those who may vote similar to you have asked you to go away. You’re embarrassing and hurting your own agenda.

Fact MOMS4LIBERTY Is a hate group and knows nothing about education.

Fact Mandel & Diaz support and speak for Moms4Liberty so they are unqualified for any position on the BOE. Mandel in particular has no zero no qualifications. FACT she is suing the school system and the BOE again fact.

FACT Mandel "dibs on horny teens", FACT got retail workers fired laughed about it and called herself out for doing so but does it over and over again. The way she talks about the Homeless is horrific so again fact she is not qualified to sit on the BOE much less any board.

And I don't care what you think I have facts you do not.

Umm.. there really aren't a lot of actual facts in what you wrote above as "Fact" -- a lot are opinions.

DP. There are some actual facts, too.

Fact: "Moms For Liberty" has strong ties to MAGA/right-wing-nationalist people and groups.
Fact: Brenda Diaz and Bethany Mandel have participated in events sponsored by the local "Moms For Liberty" group
Fact: Bethany Mandel is using a MAGA group to sue MCPS. https://www.pacermonitor.com/public/case/51353522/Foldi_et_al_v_Board_of_Education_Montgomery_County_Public_Schools_et_al
Fact: Bethany Mandel has posted a lot of ... stuff ... on Twitter.

Those are facts and not opinions like pp has posted. For me, I don’t care if they have ties or relations to moms 4 liberty. It’s not important to me. There is a candidate who promotes cannabis. That’s a huge red flag to me. These are my opinions and the pp needs to know the difference.

You are entitled to your own opinions, but for many voters, it actually is important to know that a candidate has ties to nationally-known MAGA groups.

[Anonymous]

Voting conservative, the progressive camp are the reason for the failure.

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Anonymous wrote:I received a campaign ad in the mail from MSEA supporting several candidates that said to "stand up to extremists" and implied that the candidates will not rewrite history of civil rights and racial discrimination. I was not aware that in Montgomery County such extremists were running for school board. Honestly as a Democrat I was highly put off by the ad. It's trying to rile up a base over a non-issue in the bluest of blue counties instead of taking serious positions on pressing issues.

Then you haven't been paying attention, because yes they actually are running for school board in Montgomery County, and yes it actually is a serious issue.

Scare mongering is alive and well in MoCo. MAGA isnt coming for your kids so calm down. Parents are tired of being lied to and seeing scandal after scandal come out of MCPS. Change is needed- accountability isn’t the rw boogeyman or MAGA dog whistle so chill out. Even if new people are elected, they’re going to have a big job ahead of them. They’ll have to work with the other BOE members as well as MCPS- both of whom seem loathe to any change or transparency.

BS no Moms4Liberty should be voted for ever.

And that is just an opinion which is not factual.

Wrong it’s factual

What in the world is good about moms4liberty ?

They know nothing about academics they are a hate group they want religion back in schools with chaplains instead of counselors


Glad you support the racist dumb brainless crowd

By the way which religion in schools???? Church of Satan Muslim Baptist Catholic Jewish you only get one moron.

More of your opinions and not facts.
You are recognizable with your obsessive postings. You have no credibility and even those who may vote similar to you have asked you to go away. You’re embarrassing and hurting your own agenda.

Fact MOMS4LIBERTY Is a hate group and knows nothing about education.

Fact Mandel & Diaz support and speak for Moms4Liberty so they are unqualified for any position on the BOE. Mandel in particular has no zero no qualifications. FACT she is suing the school system and the BOE again fact.

FACT Mandel "dibs on horny teens", FACT got retail workers fired laughed about it and called herself out for doing so but does it over and over again. The way she talks about the Homeless is horrific so again fact she is not qualified to sit on the BOE much less any board.

And I don't care what you think I have facts you do not.

Umm.. there really aren't a lot of actual facts in what you wrote above as "Fact" -- a lot are opinions.

DP. There are some actual facts, too.

Fact: "Moms For Liberty" has strong ties to MAGA/right-wing-nationalist people and groups.
Fact: Brenda Diaz and Bethany Mandel have participated in events sponsored by the local "Moms For Liberty" group
Fact: Bethany Mandel is using a MAGA group to sue MCPS. https://www.pacermonitor.com/public/case/51353522/Foldi_et_al_v_Board_of_Education_Montgomery_County_Public_Schools_et_al
Fact: Bethany Mandel has posted a lot of ... stuff ... on Twitter.

Those are facts and not opinions like pp has posted. For me, I don’t care if they have ties or relations to moms 4 liberty. It’s not important to me. There is a candidate who promotes cannabis. That’s a huge red flag to me. These are my opinions and the pp needs to know the difference.

You are entitled to your own opinions, but for many voters, it actually is important to know that a candidate has ties to nationally-known MAGA groups.

That is fine and valid. But to make statements that are opinions and call them facts are not. That is the poster was getting called out on. You know that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Perspectives don't matter on a Board. Perspectives matter at hearings.
All that mattes on a Board are voting choices and negotiating ability for votes.

When has anyone ever had to negotiate for votes? Don’t they all usually rubber stamp together? lol.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Voting conservative, the progressive camp are the reason for the failure.

What are the "conservative" candidates planning to conserve? If you're planning to make big changes, that's not conservative, it's radical.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Perspectives don't matter on a Board. Perspectives matter at hearings.
All that mattes on a Board are voting choices and negotiating ability for votes.

When has anyone ever had to negotiate for votes? Don’t they all usually rubber stamp together? lol.

I think the idea is maybe this time around, we can elect BOE candidates who weren't born with a rubber stamp attached to their hand.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Voting conservative, the progressive camp are the reason for the failure.

What are the "conservative" candidates planning to conserve? If you're planning to make big changes, that's not conservative, it's radical.

You actually think conservative in the political realm means to conserve and keep things the way they are. You cannot be serious.

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Anonymous wrote:Voting conservative, the progressive camp are the reason for the failure.

What are the "conservative" candidates planning to conserve? If you're planning to make big changes, that's not conservative, it's radical.

You actually think conservative in the political realm means to conserve and keep things the way they are. You cannot be serious.

If so-called conservatives actually aren't conserving anything, maybe they should change their name? Or, more realistically, maybe people who aren't so-called conservatives should start using names for so-called conservatives that are more accurate, like "Republican" or "MAGA" or "reactionary".

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Perspectives don't matter on a Board. Perspectives matter at hearings.
All that mattes on a Board are voting choices and negotiating ability for votes.

When has anyone ever had to negotiate for votes? Don’t they all usually rubber stamp together? lol.

I think the idea is maybe this time around, we can elect BOE candidates who weren't born with a rubber stamp attached to their hand.

Ok, good luck with that

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Perspectives don't matter on a Board. Perspectives matter at hearings.
All that mattes on a Board are voting choices and negotiating ability for votes.

Are you saying that the perspective of a teacher doesn’t matter on the board? If that’s the case are we even talking about education here or only politics by ill informed people?

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Voting conservative, the progressive camp are the reason for the failure.

What are the "conservative" candidates planning to conserve? If you're planning to make big changes, that's not conservative, it's radical.

You actually think conservative in the political realm means to conserve and keep things the way they are. You cannot be serious.

a return to the 3Rs!!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Perspectives don't matter on a Board. Perspectives matter at hearings.
All that mattes on a Board are voting choices and negotiating ability for votes.

When has anyone ever had to negotiate for votes? Don’t they all usually rubber stamp together? lol.

They do it all the time. It's called board governance.