Wizards and Caps could be moving to Potomac Yard

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Anonymous wrote:I wonder if they would create a VRE stop by PY?

There’s one at Crystal City.

It's like a 15 minute walk. Are people really that lazy that they can't walk 15 minutes?

15 min is a long walk. No, a person is not lazy for desiring to drive instead of taking a 15 min walk in addition to a ride on public transportation. This isn’t the Reddit /f**ckcars thread I think you have lost your way.

15 minutes is a "long walk?!" Yes, you're solidly lazy.

Not lazy. I am in a chair. Thank you.

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Anonymous wrote:I hate Bowser so much for what she has done to our city that I hope the deal goes through. She's a complete failure and I would love to kick her when she's down. She has overseen the squander and ruin of the Nation's Capital. After nearly 30 decades, I can hardly wait to blow this joint.

This is dumb and spiteful. If you actually care about the District, you should be hoping that the DC government can somehow keep the teams in the city.

CapOne is clearly the best location from a transport perspective for the entire region. And its in need of a more comprehensive renovation. I don't care if Bowser or someone else gets the job done. We really can't lose these teams, given the moribund RTO status and lack of foot traffic.

I no longer care about the District. That's my point. I've been a good, tax paying, engaged resident for 30 years. My reward is a crime riddled city where criminals are more valued than me and my family. Let it burn.

You sound like a petulant child. The pendulum is going to swing back fast in DC.

I am a DP, I really hope it does. 10 years ago you could go to a game or concert at Capital One Arena (it was the Verizon Center!) and then walk around to a bar or restaurant, go to a happy hour, then to your car or Metro. Even at night. It wasn’t a huge “nightlife” area but it was lively and fun. And no one was openly dealing drugs on the street. Your car wouldn’t be stolen and you wouldn’t be carjacked. There were panhandlers and homeless but they were not mentally disturbed and aggressive as they are now. But if you go there now you know that’s now how it is anymore.

I agree that a central location in the city is the best for all the fans. But the entire DC government dropped the ball big time and it opened up an avenue for Youngkin and the VA state and local government to quietly step in and Youngkin to convince his friend to move the teams. So yeah. I really really hope this is a wake up call for the city too, but I’m not 100% certain it will be. Don’t know what it’ll take to return everything to the good old days of, like, 2008-2016.

You can still do those things. I even did them last night.

The DC Government didn't drop the ball. Read the Axios report. DC doesn't have 70 acres and 2 billion dollars to give to Leonsis to retain the teams. That is the proposal Virginia made. It has nothing to do with crime, which is just the cop out bogeyman (yes it is an issue but it isn't why the teams are moving) - this is a plain old money grab that two old friends conjured up at Virginia taxpayer expense.

Right. So knowing they were in such a weak negotiating position they should have agreed to a deal over a year ago instead of slow rolling it and playing footsy with the Commanders.

Unless DC was coming up with 70 acres and 2 billion dollars, it was never going to matter what the city offered.

Actually, there are lots of real estate opportunities that were potentially available here. Former RFK site is an obvious one. Plenty of underutilized office buildings as well. Yes, some creativity would be required.

DC doesn't own the RFK site and anywhere there are office buildings, there are also streets that are part of the L'Enfant plan that cannot be altered. Any other bright ideas?

Your lack of creativity is impressive.

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DC needs to pass quickly whatever legislation is necessary to fund at least the 500M if not Ted's original request of 600M. No waiting. No delays. No excuses. No agreement to submit later. Needs to be passed and signed into DC law. Funding of course should be conditioned upon the teams staying in DC.

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Anonymous wrote:DC needs to pass quickly whatever legislation is necessary to fund at least the 500M if not Ted's original request of 600M. No waiting. No delays. No excuses. No agreement to submit later. Needs to be passed and signed into DC law. Funding of course should be conditioned upon the teams staying in DC.

They already have all councilmembers and the Mayor on the record with the offer.

The money isn't the issue. Youngkin, an old colleague and friend of Leonsis, was able to secure 70 acres and 2 billion dollars for Ted to move the teams. DC has no land or cash to meet that offer. Of course, the VA State Assembly also has to approve the cash part of Youngkin's offer and small business traditional conservatives and democrats are not interested in giving billionaires cash, so it will be interesting to see how this evolves.

Further, while at the time of the press conference, the Alexandia local politicos seemed to be on board, now that the local residents and others are looking at the reality of moving 20,000+ people in and out of that area hundreds of times per year, the stark facts of the inappropriateness of the site are surfacing.

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Anonymous wrote:DC needs to pass quickly whatever legislation is necessary to fund at least the 500M if not Ted's original request of 600M. No waiting. No delays. No excuses. No agreement to submit later. Needs to be passed and signed into DC law. Funding of course should be conditioned upon the teams staying in DC.

And make it clear that the teams there are referring to are the NHL and NBA teams not the WNBA, G-League or Georgetown. Spending $500 million on the Mystics is the worst possible outcome.

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Anonymous wrote:DC needs to pass quickly whatever legislation is necessary to fund at least the 500M if not Ted's original request of 600M. No waiting. No delays. No excuses. No agreement to submit later. Needs to be passed and signed into DC law. Funding of course should be conditioned upon the teams staying in DC.

That goes without saying, although given how dumb and dense Bowser and her aides are, it's probably worth saying.

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I’m a huge sports fan and DC native. The Wizards are the worst franchise in all of sports. When Ovi retires the caps are done.

DC area is just not a sports town. Nobody really cares and the area around the team directly 300 feet under planes landing and taking off will not be a “destination”. I might go there once for one of the rare caps playoff games.

Leonsis is grasping.

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Anonymous wrote:DC needs to pass quickly whatever legislation is necessary to fund at least the 500M if not Ted's original request of 600M. No waiting. No delays. No excuses. No agreement to submit later. Needs to be passed and signed into DC law. Funding of course should be conditioned upon the teams staying in DC.

You're in denial. It's not the money, it's the rampant crime.

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I’m a huge sports fan and DC native. The Wizards are the worst franchise in all of sports. When Ovi retires the caps are done.

DC area is just not a sports town. Nobody really cares and the area around the team directly 300 feet under planes landing and taking off will not be a “destination”. I might go there once for one of the rare caps playoff games.

Leonsis is grasping.

Another sterile ,inconvenient, hard to park, expensive to park, massively overpriced mass produced food, development like the SW waterfront.. vomit.

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Anonymous wrote:DC needs to pass quickly whatever legislation is necessary to fund at least the 500M if not Ted's original request of 600M. No waiting. No delays. No excuses. No agreement to submit later. Needs to be passed and signed into DC law. Funding of course should be conditioned upon the teams staying in DC.

You're in denial. It's not the money, it's the rampant crime.

It the land and the money. I am in Gallery Place all the time, it is not much different than it ever has been. Yes, there is more crime. It is what it is. We don't live ina dystopian hellscape.

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Anonymous wrote:DC needs to pass quickly whatever legislation is necessary to fund at least the 500M if not Ted's original request of 600M. No waiting. No delays. No excuses. No agreement to submit later. Needs to be passed and signed into DC law. Funding of course should be conditioned upon the teams staying in DC.

They already have all councilmembers and the Mayor on the record with the offer.

The money isn't the issue. Youngkin, an old colleague and friend of Leonsis, was able to secure 70 acres and 2 billion dollars for Ted to move the teams. DC has no land or cash to meet that offer. Of course, the VA State Assembly also has to approve the cash part of Youngkin's offer and small business traditional conservatives and democrats are not interested in giving billionaires cash, so it will be interesting to see how this evolves.

Further, while at the time of the press conference, the Alexandia local politicos seemed to be on board, now that the local residents and others are looking at the reality of moving 20,000+ people in and out of that area hundreds of times per year, the stark facts of the inappropriateness of the site are surfacing.

I thought the mayor just said that the old FBI headquarter site (after the FBI moves to Greenbelt) could allow for a the construction of a suburban style arena campus with parking, a fan zone plaza, and other suburban style amenities like a separate performance shell or other venue. The DC mayor and councilors are not giving up just yet.

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Anonymous wrote:DC needs to pass quickly whatever legislation is necessary to fund at least the 500M if not Ted's original request of 600M. No waiting. No delays. No excuses. No agreement to submit later. Needs to be passed and signed into DC law. Funding of course should be conditioned upon the teams staying in DC.

You're in denial. It's not the money, it's the rampant crime.

600M can help fix crime

Gentrification helps crime..but people don't seem to like nice things..mainly DC council

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Anonymous wrote:DC needs to pass quickly whatever legislation is necessary to fund at least the 500M if not Ted's original request of 600M. No waiting. No delays. No excuses. No agreement to submit later. Needs to be passed and signed into DC law. Funding of course should be conditioned upon the teams staying in DC.

You're in denial. It's not the money, it's the rampant crime.

It the land and the money. I am in Gallery Place all the time, it is not much different than it ever has been. Yes, there is more crime. It is what it is. We don't live ina dystopian hellscape.

But you don't really believe this, do you?

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Citizens over criminals.

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Anonymous wrote:DC needs to pass quickly whatever legislation is necessary to fund at least the 500M if not Ted's original request of 600M. No waiting. No delays. No excuses. No agreement to submit later. Needs to be passed and signed into DC law. Funding of course should be conditioned upon the teams staying in DC.

You're in denial. It's not the money, it's the rampant crime.

It the land and the money. I am in Gallery Place all the time, it is not much different than it ever has been. Yes, there is more crime. It is what it is. We don't live ina dystopian hellscape.

Nobody on this thread is saying it's a dystopian hellscape. What people are saying is that the neighborhood has experienced a rise in -- among other things -- crime, vagrancy, and drug use, and things are only getting worse.

I work right above Chinatown at Mt. Vernon Square. None of my female colleagues feel safe walking alone down 7th St anymore.