Magruder Shooter Sentenced 18 years

[Anonymous]

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I'm surprised it was so harsh but good (?). I question the good because I do think it is a good idea to give a harsh sentence but what is the plan for him while in prison? I hope he won't get out early but what is the plan?

He'll be a 35 year old man when he is released from prison. He already had a bad start to life and wasn't given good guidance by his parents. What type of rehab will he really get in prison? He won't be really educated. He won't have good influences (or will he?) around him and he will leave prison as still a young man. Young men seem to commit the majority of crimes so there is a chance that he will commit more crimes when he is released. I doubt he will have even the slightest positive impact on society.

In cases like this, is it better to keep them in prison for the full 40 years so his most criminal heavy years will be spent locked up?

[Anonymous]

I wonder what the argument was about? Also, the student shot is back at Mcgruder?

[Anonymous]

I wonder how the victim is doing. I hope he is well. I hope he sues the family for damages.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:https://mocoshow.com/blog/magruder-high-school-shooter-sentenced-to-18-years/?fbclid=IwAR2dUsyPO9Tenq9EZefjVnJIqIsixgendJQhJqF54kK9wKsgmEnzn01vB08

I'm surprised it was so harsh but good (?). I question the good because I do think it is a good idea to give a harsh sentence but what is the plan for him while in prison? I hope he won't get out early but what is the plan?

He'll be a 35 year old man when he is released from prison. He already had a bad start to life and wasn't given good guidance by his parents. What type of rehab will he really get in prison? He won't be really educated. He won't have good influences (or will he?) around him and he will leave prison as still a young man. Young men seem to commit the majority of crimes so there is a chance that he will commit more crimes when he is released. I doubt he will have even the slightest positive impact on society.

In cases like this, is it better to keep them in prison for the full 40 years so his most criminal heavy years will be spent locked up?

Yes.


I’m more concerned with public safety than his rehabilitation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://mocoshow.com/blog/magruder-high-school-shooter-sentenced-to-18-years/?fbclid=IwAR2dUsyPO9Tenq9EZefjVnJIqIsixgendJQhJqF54kK9wKsgmEnzn01vB08

I'm surprised it was so harsh but good (?). I question the good because I do think it is a good idea to give a harsh sentence but what is the plan for him while in prison? I hope he won't get out early but what is the plan?

He'll be a 35 year old man when he is released from prison. He already had a bad start to life and wasn't given good guidance by his parents. What type of rehab will he really get in prison? He won't be really educated. He won't have good influences (or will he?) around him and he will leave prison as still a young man. Young men seem to commit the majority of crimes so there is a chance that he will commit more crimes when he is released. I doubt he will have even the slightest positive impact on society.

In cases like this, is it better to keep them in prison for the full 40 years so his most criminal heavy years will be spent locked up?

Yes.


I’m more concerned with public safety than his rehabilitation.

Being concerned for safety means concern for rehabilitation of criminals, almost all of whom will be released from prison eventually.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://mocoshow.com/blog/magruder-high-school-shooter-sentenced-to-18-years/?fbclid=IwAR2dUsyPO9Tenq9EZefjVnJIqIsixgendJQhJqF54kK9wKsgmEnzn01vB08

I'm surprised it was so harsh but good (?). I question the good because I do think it is a good idea to give a harsh sentence but what is the plan for him while in prison? I hope he won't get out early but what is the plan?

He'll be a 35 year old man when he is released from prison. He already had a bad start to life and wasn't given good guidance by his parents. What type of rehab will he really get in prison? He won't be really educated. He won't have good influences (or will he?) around him and he will leave prison as still a young man. Young men seem to commit the majority of crimes so there is a chance that he will commit more crimes when he is released. I doubt he will have even the slightest positive impact on society.

In cases like this, is it better to keep them in prison for the full 40 years so his most criminal heavy years will be spent locked up?

Yes.


I’m more concerned with public safety than his rehabilitation.

I really do hear what you are saying, but what type of rehabilitation is really going on in prisons? This kid will spend the rest of his formative years surrounded by fellow criminals. The influence can't be good on a teen boy as he develops into a man.

I forget the terminology for this, but the young male brain is more prone to violence than an older man's. What rehab is he really getting in prison that will help him develop into a productive member of society? One that won't revert back to criminal behavior?

Being concerned for safety means concern for rehabilitation of criminals, almost all of whom will be released from prison eventually.

[Anonymous]

Good riddance.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:https://mocoshow.com/blog/magruder-high-school-shooter-sentenced-to-18-years/?fbclid=IwAR2dUsyPO9Tenq9EZefjVnJIqIsixgendJQhJqF54kK9wKsgmEnzn01vB08

I'm surprised it was so harsh but good (?). I question the good because I do think it is a good idea to give a harsh sentence but what is the plan for him while in prison? I hope he won't get out early but what is the plan?

He'll be a 35 year old man when he is released from prison. He already had a bad start to life and wasn't given good guidance by his parents. What type of rehab will he really get in prison? He won't be really educated. He won't have good influences (or will he?) around him and he will leave prison as still a young man. Young men seem to commit the majority of crimes so there is a chance that he will commit more crimes when he is released. I doubt he will have even the slightest positive impact on society.

In cases like this, is it better to keep them in prison for the full 40 years so his most criminal heavy years will be spent locked up?

It says he will be in the Patuxent Youthful Offender Program which will provide him with mentorship and education so that hopefully he's a better person when he gets out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://mocoshow.com/blog/magruder-high-school-shooter-sentenced-to-18-years/?fbclid=IwAR2dUsyPO9Tenq9EZefjVnJIqIsixgendJQhJqF54kK9wKsgmEnzn01vB08

I'm surprised it was so harsh but good (?). I question the good because I do think it is a good idea to give a harsh sentence but what is the plan for him while in prison? I hope he won't get out early but what is the plan?

He'll be a 35 year old man when he is released from prison. He already had a bad start to life and wasn't given good guidance by his parents. What type of rehab will he really get in prison? He won't be really educated. He won't have good influences (or will he?) around him and he will leave prison as still a young man. Young men seem to commit the majority of crimes so there is a chance that he will commit more crimes when he is released. I doubt he will have even the slightest positive impact on society.

In cases like this, is it better to keep them in prison for the full 40 years so his most criminal heavy years will be spent locked up?

It says he will be in the Patuxent Youthful Offender Program which will provide him with mentorship and education so that hopefully he's a better person when he gets out.

That also means he's likely to get out a lot earlier.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://mocoshow.com/blog/magruder-high-school-shooter-sentenced-to-18-years/?fbclid=IwAR2dUsyPO9Tenq9EZefjVnJIqIsixgendJQhJqF54kK9wKsgmEnzn01vB08

I'm surprised it was so harsh but good (?). I question the good because I do think it is a good idea to give a harsh sentence but what is the plan for him while in prison? I hope he won't get out early but what is the plan?

He'll be a 35 year old man when he is released from prison. He already had a bad start to life and wasn't given good guidance by his parents. What type of rehab will he really get in prison? He won't be really educated. He won't have good influences (or will he?) around him and he will leave prison as still a young man. Young men seem to commit the majority of crimes so there is a chance that he will commit more crimes when he is released. I doubt he will have even the slightest positive impact on society.

In cases like this, is it better to keep them in prison for the full 40 years so his most criminal heavy years will be spent locked up?

Yes.


I’m more concerned with public safety than his rehabilitation.

Being concerned for safety means concern for rehabilitation of criminals, almost all of whom will be released from prison eventually.

This. Recidivism doesn’t happen in isolation when we are talking about people who are arrested before their brains fully form and then spend a couple decades in institutional settings with not opportunity to learn skills that transfer to being self-supporting in the outside world. We fret on DCUM about young women stepping out of the workforce for 5-10 years to raise children, warning them that they will never catch up financially. How do we think someone with a HS education or less can ever catch up after 18 years in prison. Prison is just grad school for criminal knowledge.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://mocoshow.com/blog/magruder-high-school-shooter-sentenced-to-18-years/?fbclid=IwAR2dUsyPO9Tenq9EZefjVnJIqIsixgendJQhJqF54kK9wKsgmEnzn01vB08

I'm surprised it was so harsh but good (?). I question the good because I do think it is a good idea to give a harsh sentence but what is the plan for him while in prison? I hope he won't get out early but what is the plan?

He'll be a 35 year old man when he is released from prison. He already had a bad start to life and wasn't given good guidance by his parents. What type of rehab will he really get in prison? He won't be really educated. He won't have good influences (or will he?) around him and he will leave prison as still a young man. Young men seem to commit the majority of crimes so there is a chance that he will commit more crimes when he is released. I doubt he will have even the slightest positive impact on society.

In cases like this, is it better to keep them in prison for the full 40 years so his most criminal heavy years will be spent locked up?

It says he will be in the Patuxent Youthful Offender Program which will provide him with mentorship and education so that hopefully he's a better person when he gets out.

That also means he's likely to get out a lot earlier.

Yes. And while I do think 18 years seem like a "harsh" sentence, I do think it was necessary. You can't just shoot up a kid at a school and expect ten years in prison. What kind of message would that send?

[Anonymous]

I think it’s extreme.

- he was a minor
- he was being threatened by the victim, repeatedly
- he seemed to be targeting a specific person so I don’t feel like he was a threat to the larger community
- he was clearly intelligent but misguided
- not a homicide
- not a career criminal

I think he needs psychiatric help and a path to recovery. That crazy Russian arms dealer was sentenced to 20 years total for much much more harm to society, domestic and foreign.

It seems like the biggest players get away with murder and some kid that hasn’t even started his life is cast off into the void.

[Anonymous]

Way too much extreme, given the circumstances- it’s not like he was a psychopath.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think it’s extreme.

- he was a minor
- he was being threatened by the victim, repeatedly
- he seemed to be targeting a specific person so I don’t feel like he was a threat to the larger community
- he was clearly intelligent but misguided
- not a homicide
- not a career criminal

I think he needs psychiatric help and a path to recovery. That crazy Russian arms dealer was sentenced to 20 years total for much much more harm to society, domestic and foreign.

It seems like the biggest players get away with murder and some kid that hasn’t even started his life is cast off into the void.

Where did you learn that he was being threatened by the victim? I have not seen that reported. I think you're having a little too much empathy. Why shouldn't he be punished for shooting somebody?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think it’s extreme.

- he was a minor
- he was being threatened by the victim, repeatedly
- he seemed to be targeting a specific person so I don’t feel like he was a threat to the larger community
- he was clearly intelligent but misguided
- not a homicide
- not a career criminal

I think he needs psychiatric help and a path to recovery. That crazy Russian arms dealer was sentenced to 20 years total for much much more harm to society, domestic and foreign.

It seems like the biggest players get away with murder and some kid that hasn’t even started his life is cast off into the void.

A minor? He was nearly 18
Being threatened? Any number of people he could have gone to for help
Clearly intelligent? I doubt it
Not a homicide? If it wasn’t for the excellent emergency care he received from the school safety officer and former SRO it would have been.
Not a career criminal? Yet.

A minor. Yes. A high school junior.

Threatened. Yes. Nobody can protect you until something actually happens but then it’s too late. Also this applies to the victim who went to the bathroom to
fight. He wasn’t innocent.

Intelligent. Yes obviously since he assembled his own gun from raw parts and was a high school junior not a dropout. They arrested him while he was in class. He gave up the gun without any argument.

Not a homicide. Objectively true. No matter what you say could have happened we don’t punish people for crimes they did not commit.

Not a career criminal. Once again you are just making up stuff to support your harsh judgment.


People like you would just send every single criminal to jail for life no matter what the details. Clueless.