Gaza War, Part 3

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Not sure if this has been posted already but millions face starvation in Gaza due to Israel preventing aid from entering Gaza. These are war crimes.

https://edition.cnn.com/2024/03/19/middleeast/famine-northern-gaza-starvation-ipc-report-intl-hnk/index.html

Fortunately, the Israelis were able to kill Marwan Issa yesterday. He was the Hamas leader responsible for stealing more than 60 percent of all the food aid in Gaza, which Hamas then sells at exorbitant prices to the few that can afford it while everyone else goes hungry. Tragically for Palestinians, Hamas is a death cult. They want Palestinians to die. It's a difficult thing to work around. Hopefully more air drops will help alleviate some of the food shortages. But nothing is going to really change until the entire Hamas leadership is eliminated.

Can you try to put yourself in the position of a civilian in Gaza? Your house is destroyed. Your spouse and a couple of your kids have been killed. You are hungry. Your baby is crying for food. Who do you hate more: Hamas or IDF? The bombs are obviously coming from Israel. Would you ever forgive Israel? Or would your tears and your sorrow inspire your baby (if he survives) to rise up against Israel in 20 years?

How exactly is Israel’s continued punishment of Gaza making things safer for Israel in the long term?

If you still think it does, how do you see the aftermath of the war unfolding? What’s the recovery plan?

Can you put yourself in the shoes of a child in New York who lost his father to the Al-Qaeda attacks on 9/11? Can you put yourself in the shoes of an Iraqi mother whose daughter was kidnapped by ISIS?

The world can't live with the kind of mass terrorism perpetrated by the likes of Al-Qaeda, ISIS, and Hamas. The US went to war for twenty years after 9/11. Iraq, Syria and allies as varied as Russia, Turkey, and the US spent years eradicating ISIS. Hundreds of thousands of lives were lost in those conflicts. Hamas is no different. No country on Earth is going to quietly tolerate the kind of atrocities that Hamas committed on 10/7. It is telling that not a single Arab country stands with the Palestinians now. And it's because of Hamas. That is the problem for Palestinians. They are ruled by terrorists.

As to what happens after Hamas is destroyed, it's unknowable. Netanyahu is incredibly unpopular in Israel. He will be gone with the next election. But whoever follows will still have Israeli security as their top priority. It's an Israel's interest to have a stable, independent, thriving Palestine as their neighbor. But how to get from here to there is anyone's guess. Much depends on the Palestinians themselves. By most accounts, they are disgusted with Hamas. So that's a start. But the quicker Hamas is destroyed, the sooner the rebuilding can begin.

I agree, Hamas, Al-Qaeda, Isis, and the IDF are terrorist organizations that the civilized would should seek to eliminate

[Anonymous]

Why is the US still funding Israel? They've made it clear that no amount of collateral damage is too much. The plan is now clear, destroy Palestinians along with Hamas.
The entire world is watching Israel exterminate an entire nation in the name of self defense. It will be next to impossible to avoid radicalizing another generation of Palestinians. Unless Israel kills them all. Which happens to be the plan. I would my tax dollars to stop funding this.

[Anonymous]

This is spot on. Netanyahu is boxed in and trying to turn the tables on Biden and the US.

He let Hamas fester and basically encouraged and allowed Oct 7 to happen to keep is own hide out of jail.

Horrific.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not sure if this has been posted already but millions face starvation in Gaza due to Israel preventing aid from entering Gaza. These are war crimes.

https://edition.cnn.com/2024/03/19/middleeast/famine-northern-gaza-starvation-ipc-report-intl-hnk/index.html

Fortunately, the Israelis were able to kill Marwan Issa yesterday. He was the Hamas leader responsible for stealing more than 60 percent of all the food aid in Gaza, which Hamas then sells at exorbitant prices to the few that can afford it while everyone else goes hungry. Tragically for Palestinians, Hamas is a death cult. They want Palestinians to die. It's a difficult thing to work around. Hopefully more air drops will help alleviate some of the food shortages. But nothing is going to really change until the entire Hamas leadership is eliminated.

Can you try to put yourself in the position of a civilian in Gaza? Your house is destroyed. Your spouse and a couple of your kids have been killed. You are hungry. Your baby is crying for food. Who do you hate more: Hamas or IDF? The bombs are obviously coming from Israel. Would you ever forgive Israel? Or would your tears and your sorrow inspire your baby (if he survives) to rise up against Israel in 20 years?

How exactly is Israel’s continued punishment of Gaza making things safer for Israel in the long term?

If you still think it does, how do you see the aftermath of the war unfolding? What’s the recovery plan?

Can you put yourself in the shoes of a child in New York who lost his father to the Al-Qaeda attacks on 9/11? Can you put yourself in the shoes of an Iraqi mother whose daughter was kidnapped by ISIS?

The world can't live with the kind of mass terrorism perpetrated by the likes of Al-Qaeda, ISIS, and Hamas. The US went to war for twenty years after 9/11. Iraq, Syria and allies as varied as Russia, Turkey, and the US spent years eradicating ISIS. Hundreds of thousands of lives were lost in those conflicts. Hamas is no different. No country on Earth is going to quietly tolerate the kind of atrocities that Hamas committed on 10/7. It is telling that not a single Arab country stands with the Palestinians now. And it's because of Hamas. That is the problem for Palestinians. They are ruled by terrorists.

As to what happens after Hamas is destroyed, it's unknowable. Netanyahu is incredibly unpopular in Israel. He will be gone with the next election. But whoever follows will still have Israeli security as their top priority. It's an Israel's interest to have a stable, independent, thriving Palestine as their neighbor. But how to get from here to there is anyone's guess. Much depends on the Palestinians themselves. By most accounts, they are disgusted with Hamas. So that's a start. But the quicker Hamas is destroyed, the sooner the rebuilding can begin.

We didn't intentionally starve the Afghanis. Heck we spent trillions trying to rebuild Afghanistan. When we broke the Taliban we took on the responsibility of being an occupier.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Times of Israel reports today:

"The IDF responds to reports of the deaths of two Palestinian journalists in an Israeli airstrike the Gaza Strip earlier today, saying the pair, working for Al Jazeera, were in a vehicle with a terror operative who was operating a drone.

In response to a query on the matter, the IDF Spokesperson’s Unit tells The Times of Israel that a military aircraft “identified and struck a terrorist who operated an aircraft in a way that put IDF forces at risk.”"

Washington Post today has an analysis of this strike that killed Hamza Dahdouh and Mustafa Thuraya. More lies from the IDF.

No Israeli soldiers, aircraft or other military equipment are visible in the footage taken that day — which The Post is publishing in its entirety — raising critical questions about why the journalists were targeted.

The Post found no indications that either man was operating as anything other than a journalist that day. Both passed through Israeli checkpoints on their way to the south early in the war; Dahdouh had recently been approved to leave Gaza, a rare privilege unlikely to have been granted to a known militant.

In response to multiple inquiries and detailed questions from The Post, the IDF said: “We have nothing further to add.”

Since Thuraya and Dahdouh were killed, “no one dares to fly any drones,” said Anat Saragusti, director of press freedom at the Union of Journalists in Israel.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2024/03/19/gaza-journalists-killed-israel-al-jazeera-footage/

This is SOP for the IDF. Hit civilians and low level target, claim high level leadership was there and the US provides cover. Add in only the Israelis have access to the site.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why is the US still funding Israel? They've made it clear that no amount of collateral damage is too much. The plan is now clear, destroy Palestinians along with Hamas.
The entire world is watching Israel exterminate an entire nation in the name of self defense. It will be next to impossible to avoid radicalizing another generation of Palestinians. Unless Israel kills them all. Which happens to be the plan. I would my tax dollars to stop funding this.

The USA going back several Presidential Administrations is directly responsible for the carnage in Palestine/ Israel.

Just like how Bush's invasion of Iraq, followed by inept management of what he broke, lead to the failed state chaos and ISIS,
the same Bush Admin is behind the never ending killing and torture in Gaza and West Bank:

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2008/04/gaza200804

I am so so sick of this 80 years of wars that have sucked in , not just Palestinians but Lebanese, Syrians, Iraqis, Kurds- especially since 1967. What a tremendous waste of human capital, human lives, money and soldiers in arms. Obscene.

For real peace in the Middle East, the USA needs to but the heck out- for good.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
I am so so sick of this 80 years of wars that have sucked in , not just Palestinians but Lebanese, Syrians, Iraqis, Kurds- especially since 1967. What a tremendous waste of human capital, human lives, money and soldiers in arms. Obscene.

For real peace in the Middle East, the USA needs to but the heck out- for good.

1967, that was when Egypt, Syria, Jordan, announced they were going to eliminate the Jew from the face of the Earth, and this is the fault of the US.

[Anonymous]

1967 was when Israel invaded Egypt (again after 1956). 1973 was when Egypt invaded Israel to make up for their humiliation in 56 and 67

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not sure if this has been posted already but millions face starvation in Gaza due to Israel preventing aid from entering Gaza. These are war crimes.

https://edition.cnn.com/2024/03/19/middleeast/famine-northern-gaza-starvation-ipc-report-intl-hnk/index.html

Fortunately, the Israelis were able to kill Marwan Issa yesterday. He was the Hamas leader responsible for stealing more than 60 percent of all the food aid in Gaza, which Hamas then sells at exorbitant prices to the few that can afford it while everyone else goes hungry. Tragically for Palestinians, Hamas is a death cult. They want Palestinians to die. It's a difficult thing to work around. Hopefully more air drops will help alleviate some of the food shortages. But nothing is going to really change until the entire Hamas leadership is eliminated.

Can you try to put yourself in the position of a civilian in Gaza? Your house is destroyed. Your spouse and a couple of your kids have been killed. You are hungry. Your baby is crying for food. Who do you hate more: Hamas or IDF? The bombs are obviously coming from Israel. Would you ever forgive Israel? Or would your tears and your sorrow inspire your baby (if he survives) to rise up against Israel in 20 years?

How exactly is Israel’s continued punishment of Gaza making things safer for Israel in the long term?

If you still think it does, how do you see the aftermath of the war unfolding? What’s the recovery plan?

Can you put yourself in the shoes of a child in New York who lost his father to the Al-Qaeda attacks on 9/11? Can you put yourself in the shoes of an Iraqi mother whose daughter was kidnapped by ISIS?

The world can't live with the kind of mass terrorism perpetrated by the likes of Al-Qaeda, ISIS, and Hamas. The US went to war for twenty years after 9/11. Iraq, Syria and allies as varied as Russia, Turkey, and the US spent years eradicating ISIS. Hundreds of thousands of lives were lost in those conflicts. Hamas is no different. No country on Earth is going to quietly tolerate the kind of atrocities that Hamas committed on 10/7. It is telling that not a single Arab country stands with the Palestinians now. And it's because of Hamas. That is the problem for Palestinians. They are ruled by terrorists.

As to what happens after Hamas is destroyed, it's unknowable. Netanyahu is incredibly unpopular in Israel. He will be gone with the next election. But whoever follows will still have Israeli security as their top priority. It's an Israel's interest to have a stable, independent, thriving Palestine as their neighbor. But how to get from here to there is anyone's guess. Much depends on the Palestinians themselves. By most accounts, they are disgusted with Hamas. So that's a start. But the quicker Hamas is destroyed, the sooner the rebuilding can begin.

I agree, Hamas, Al-Qaeda, Isis, and the IDF are terrorist organizations that the civilized would should seek to eliminate

By starving,’orphaning, and maiming thousands of children?

Really?

With this is the cost how can you not question the legitimacy of the action.

As far as I’m aware the US did not intention starve kids in Iraq and Afghanistan in response to 911.

[Anonymous]

Thanks to Bibi, the founders of Hamas have more money than the IDF 20 year old soldier and his comrades could ever dream of

[Anonymous]

Thanks to Hamas, Palestinian orphans get free pensions for life and free schooling but thanks to Hamas, they are orphans in the first place . Relieving their guilt with money is not the answer.

If there’s any hope here, the answer is Israelis and Palestinians revolting against Bibi and Hamas together

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
I am so so sick of this 80 years of wars that have sucked in , not just Palestinians but Lebanese, Syrians, Iraqis, Kurds- especially since 1967. What a tremendous waste of human capital, human lives, money and soldiers in arms. Obscene.

For real peace in the Middle East, the USA needs to but the heck out- for good.

1967, that was when Egypt, Syria, Jordan, announced they were going to eliminate the Jew from the face of the Earth, and this is the fault of the US.

? I think you need to read up on history here. The ME wars have never been about “eliminating Jews from the face of the Earth”. That was Germany’s goal in the 1930s. The ME conflicts were land disputes. Surprise, surprise, the Palestinians did not like being kicked off their family property and other countries rose to their defense. At this point there is acceptance to revert to the 67 borders. Israel is the one standing in the way of peace and creating a man made famine / displacement of an entire population. So so sad. And immoral.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not sure if this has been posted already but millions face starvation in Gaza due to Israel preventing aid from entering Gaza. These are war crimes.

https://edition.cnn.com/2024/03/19/middleeast/famine-northern-gaza-starvation-ipc-report-intl-hnk/index.html

Fortunately, the Israelis were able to kill Marwan Issa yesterday. He was the Hamas leader responsible for stealing more than 60 percent of all the food aid in Gaza, which Hamas then sells at exorbitant prices to the few that can afford it while everyone else goes hungry. Tragically for Palestinians, Hamas is a death cult. They want Palestinians to die. It's a difficult thing to work around. Hopefully more air drops will help alleviate some of the food shortages. But nothing is going to really change until the entire Hamas leadership is eliminated.

Can you try to put yourself in the position of a civilian in Gaza? Your house is destroyed. Your spouse and a couple of your kids have been killed. You are hungry. Your baby is crying for food. Who do you hate more: Hamas or IDF? The bombs are obviously coming from Israel. Would you ever forgive Israel? Or would your tears and your sorrow inspire your baby (if he survives) to rise up against Israel in 20 years?

How exactly is Israel’s continued punishment of Gaza making things safer for Israel in the long term?

If you still think it does, how do you see the aftermath of the war unfolding? What’s the recovery plan?

Can you put yourself in the shoes of a child in New York who lost his father to the Al-Qaeda attacks on 9/11? Can you put yourself in the shoes of an Iraqi mother whose daughter was kidnapped by ISIS?

The world can't live with the kind of mass terrorism perpetrated by the likes of Al-Qaeda, ISIS, and Hamas. The US went to war for twenty years after 9/11. Iraq, Syria and allies as varied as Russia, Turkey, and the US spent years eradicating ISIS. Hundreds of thousands of lives were lost in those conflicts. Hamas is no different. No country on Earth is going to quietly tolerate the kind of atrocities that Hamas committed on 10/7. It is telling that not a single Arab country stands with the Palestinians now. And it's because of Hamas. That is the problem for Palestinians. They are ruled by terrorists.

As to what happens after Hamas is destroyed, it's unknowable. Netanyahu is incredibly unpopular in Israel. He will be gone with the next election. But whoever follows will still have Israeli security as their top priority. It's an Israel's interest to have a stable, independent, thriving Palestine as their neighbor. But how to get from here to there is anyone's guess. Much depends on the Palestinians themselves. By most accounts, they are disgusted with Hamas. So that's a start. But the quicker Hamas is destroyed, the sooner the rebuilding can begin.

I agree, Hamas, Al-Qaeda, Isis, and the IDF are terrorist organizations that the civilized would should seek to eliminate

By starving,’orphaning, and maiming thousands of children?

Really?

With this is the cost how can you not question the legitimacy of the action.

As far as I’m aware the US did not intention starve kids in Iraq and Afghanistan in response to 911.

The US was airdropping food to Afghanistan in October 2001. President Bush made it clear that Arab or Muslim American attacks are unacceptable. President Bush did not arrest anti Iraq war Americans. Israel has not done any of these things . In fact, it’s arresting Israelis who speak up for Gaza as collaborators . Little did they know Hamas isn’t that obvious . A real Hamas spy in Israel isn’t going to be a bleeding heart liberal for Gaza. They’re going to join the IDF and want to enter Gaza as part of their troops

[Anonymous]

How many soldiers are in business with Hamas? Maybe they get paid more than their own army due to the endless credit line Bibi granted them via Qatar?

Yet another IDF’er arrested last month for stealing Hamas weapons and planning to sell them ?

https://www.timesofisrael.com/idf-reservist-accused-of-stealing-hamas-weapons-stashing-them-at-school-where-he-works/amp/

[Anonymous]

I am so over the cruelty and malice of Israel. The silence from Jewish clergy about the horrific humanitarian situation in Gaza is actually disgusting.