The science on remote schooling is now clear. Here’s who it hurt most.

Anonymous
Welp, here it is...Washington Post for that matter. Too bad it took them so long to figure this out. I was screaming for schools to open in summer of 2020 and lost many friends because of it. Luckily my kid had in person and did just fine. Many others did not fare as well, and it seems older students will struggle more to catch up.

I am gifting the article. You're welcome.

https://wapo.st/3gz0Hld

Anonymous
“His team is working to see what other factors might account for the rest of the differences, such as local coronavirus rates or economic conditions. He speculated that parents’ financial woes, illness and social isolation all played a part.

“To reduce the educational impacts of the pandemic to whether or not learning happened remote or in person is to miss all the other ways the pandemic has disrupted kids and parents and teachers’ lives,” he said. “There is a relationship but it’s not the only thing.””
Anonymous
Good for you for being so right! Nicely done! Doesn’t that feel so good to have been right especially when you can tell your old friends they were right.

I’m glad you didn’t decide for my family though. My kids live with their grandma and she had cancer during the 2020 pandemic. We were grateful for virtual school though I understand it wasn’t a great plan for everyone.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Good for you for being so right! Nicely done! Doesn’t that feel so good to have been right especially when you can tell your old friends they were right.

I’m glad you didn’t decide for my family though. My kids live with their grandma and she had cancer during the 2020 pandemic. We were grateful for virtual school though I understand it wasn’t a great plan for everyone.


Sorry meant you can tell your old friends YOU were right.
Anonymous
I already knew who it hurt the most. Parents.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I already knew who it hurt the most. Parents.


This, parents like OP who cannot handle their kids all day every day.

My kids have been in virtual for three years. Doing great, as shown by their test scores.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Welp, here it is...Washington Post for that matter. Too bad it took them so long to figure this out. I was screaming for schools to open in summer of 2020 and lost many friends because of it. Luckily my kid had in person and did just fine. Many others did not fare as well, and it seems older students will struggle more to catch up.

I am gifting the article. You're welcome.

https://wapo.st/3gz0Hld



You “lost many friends” because you were “screaming”. Some of us “lost many friends” and family because of COVID. Nice that you and your kid are among the lucky ones.

Thanks for the article though.



Anonymous
Everyone intellectually knew this would be the result of extended school closures. But as evident in this thread, a lot of people didn’t care, and still don’t.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Everyone intellectually knew this would be the result of extended school closures. But as evident in this thread, a lot of people didn’t care, and still don’t.


I know that teachers tried. But here's where teachers' unions, and by extension, teachers, take a hit. They assured parents that as "experts" they knew what was best for children and would be quickly able to get children back up to speed once schools reopened. That has not turned out to be true. Instead, the problems caused by the pandemic, and exacerbated by virtual school, have made teaching even more difficult and students and parents chronically stressed and unsupported. Decision makers underestimated the harms of isolation and personal interaction between teachers and students and students with their fellow classmates. We are not talking about "learning losses" or setbacks, we now dealing with scores of anxious and depressed kids who can't learn. They don't trust anyone or believe that anyone cares about them.

Oh, and by the way, what was the plan for graduating seniors to make up all of the material they missed? There wasn't one, and no one cares. It's better to blame kids and their parents for everything and allow these kids to get lost.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Welp, here it is...Washington Post for that matter. Too bad it took them so long to figure this out. I was screaming for schools to open in summer of 2020 and lost many friends because of it. Luckily my kid had in person and did just fine. Many others did not fare as well, and it seems older students will struggle more to catch up.

I am gifting the article. You're welcome.

https://wapo.st/3gz0Hld



How can you comment about it when your kids never experienced it? You aren't gifting us anything but showing us the person you really are.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I already knew who it hurt the most. Parents.


This, parents like OP who cannot handle their kids all day every day.

My kids have been in virtual for three years. Doing great, as shown by their test scores.

NP.. I think you really missed the point of the article. The kids who were impacted the most were the kids who already had a huge achievement gap -- low income kids.

My kids did fine, too. Straight As. They were in 7th and 10 grade, tech savvy, so we didn't need to help them at all. It was actually easier on us because we didn't have to deal with early morning rising and packed lunch.

But, a lot of kids did badly, and not just academically. When our kids went to their annual checkup at the peds office, the dr asked how they were doing and how they did during VL. They said they did fine, which they did. The dr said that was great because he has come across so many children who were negatively impacted by VL for the entire year, and they are still trying to recover.

Having stated that, I think places like FL and TX had it easier because their weather is warmer/milder than the DC area, and they can spend more time outdoors which reduces the risk of catching the virus. So, it made sense, IMO for them to return to school. I grew up in CA, and we had outdoor lunch, no internal hallways to deal with. I would imagine it's the same for schools in TX and FL.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Everyone intellectually knew this would be the result of extended school closures. But as evident in this thread, a lot of people didn’t care, and still don’t.


I know that teachers tried. But here's where teachers' unions, and by extension, teachers, take a hit. They assured parents that as "experts" they knew what was best for children and would be quickly able to get children back up to speed once schools reopened. That has not turned out to be true. Instead, the problems caused by the pandemic, and exacerbated by virtual school, have made teaching even more difficult and students and parents chronically stressed and unsupported. Decision makers underestimated the harms of isolation and personal interaction between teachers and students and students with their fellow classmates. We are not talking about "learning losses" or setbacks, we now dealing with scores of anxious and depressed kids who can't learn. They don't trust anyone or believe that anyone cares about them.

Oh, and by the way, what was the plan for graduating seniors to make up all of the material they missed? There wasn't one, and no one cares. It's better to blame kids and their parents for everything and allow these kids to get lost.


There’s a long line of academic research showing that it is very hard for students to catch up when they call behind. Anyone that said teachers would be able to bring students back up to speed after schools reopened wasn’t arguing in good faith.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I already knew who it hurt the most. Parents.


Yeah, it didn’t hurt me. I liked being home. You know who it hurt? My teenager with a learning disability. He took algebra and geometry virtually, and his PSAT scores stink - the kind of scores all of you hyper competitive DCUM parents can’t even imagine your kids getting. This phase was always going to be hard, but virtual learning set him way back.

I am also a public health professional who has spent the last (almost) three years on Covid. Opening schools in spring 2021 was clearly the right thing. Before that it wasn’t at all clear, and school closures were rational.
Anonymous
I’m thinking that OP’s former friends were relieved to finally have a reason to cut the cord with her for good.
Thanks COVID!
Anonymous
Yea. We get it. In retrospect the school closings were a bad thing. Some mistakes are bound to happen in a once in a century pandemic. Time to move on.
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