ECNL moving to school year part 2

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Anyone who wants to judge how the age switch may shake out only need to look look at freshmen in HS in soccer. Do the Aug-Dec birthdays outperform the Jan-Jul players? If any reach varsity, which cohort are they in?

And there it is. The GY parent makes a post.


The months used weren't GY, they were SY -- And the question is on point. Folks seem to think Aug-Dec -- especially current 2nd team players -- will be able to dominate over their first-team Jan-Jul most likely same-grade peers. So, how does that play out now in HS?

But seriously what is the next excuse you plan to latch onto once rea doesn't work out?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Anyone who wants to judge how the age switch may shake out only need to look look at freshmen in HS in soccer. Do the Aug-Dec birthdays outperform the Jan-Jul players? If any reach varsity, which cohort are they in?

And there it is. The GY parent makes a post.


The months used weren't GY, they were SY -- And the question is on point. Folks seem to think Aug-Dec -- especially current 2nd team players -- will be able to dominate over their first-team Jan-Jul most likely same-grade peers. So, how does that play out now in HS?

But seriously what is the next excuse you plan to latch onto once rea doesn't work out?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It’s undeniable that the boost for Aug-Dec kids will be huge.

RAE is obvious.

My son’s club Academy1 team has 95% players Q1/Q2, and only one Q3 (my son).

However Academy2 is packed with Q3/Q4s.

It will change next year once SY is implemented.


You don't understand RAE.
They do, you don't.

No, you're just looking for the excuse du jour. Today its rae tomorrow it will be whatever coach doesn’t develop your kid enough so they can be pro players. Soon all the money in the world wont buy your way onto whatever team you think your kid should be on.

Once this happens you'll walk away from the wreckage and havoc you've created for everyone else. Happy that you "made a differnce".
Older kids tend to be better at sports than younger kids. Not sure why this accepted fact makes you bitter and angry and lash put. Saul good man.

Older kids? Your comment makes no sense.

But seriously what is the next excuse you plan to latch onto?
So you are genuinely confused that older and bigger kids are better on average at sports or just won't admit that the sky is blue? Your invented excuse diatribe is just a dead cat on the table. You wouldn't show much anger if you actually thought the switch to SY was irrelevant.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It’s undeniable that the boost for Aug-Dec kids will be huge.

RAE is obvious.

My son’s club Academy1 team has 95% players Q1/Q2, and only one Q3 (my son).

However Academy2 is packed with Q3/Q4s.

It will change next year once SY is implemented.


You don't understand RAE.
They do, you don't.

No, you're just looking for the excuse du jour. Today its rae tomorrow it will be whatever coach doesn’t develop your kid enough so they can be pro players. Soon all the money in the world wont buy your way onto whatever team you think your kid should be on.

Once this happens you'll walk away from the wreckage and havoc you've created for everyone else. Happy that you "made a differnce".
Older kids tend to be better at sports than younger kids. Not sure why this accepted fact makes you bitter and angry and lash put. Saul good man.

Older kids? Your comment makes no sense.

But seriously what is the next excuse you plan to latch onto?


The reason they switched from SY to BY in the first place had to do with the majority of youth national team players being born Aug to November and they’d play internationally and the other countries were mostly Jan to June so we were at a disadvantage because are players were younger and smaller.

So we went with BY to align with the majority of other countries with the hopes that if US youth national teams could compete that would mean are men’s team would eventually compete as well.
Anonymous
Whomever is considered "older" in age groups get an advantage, but it's conferred over years to the point where the younger kids drop out by middle school. That's RAE.

In this switch for soccer -- which should be studied by experts who track these trends -- has a large group of players who have received those RAE benefits to put them %-wise at the top of the sport. Now that those players get to play up against slightly older players where the volume of competitors are currently playing at a lower level. Will 6 months really matter?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It’s undeniable that the boost for Aug-Dec kids will be huge.

RAE is obvious.

My son’s club Academy1 team has 95% players Q1/Q2, and only one Q3 (my son).

However Academy2 is packed with Q3/Q4s.

It will change next year once SY is implemented.


You don't understand RAE.
They do, you don't.

No, you're just looking for the excuse du jour. Today its rae tomorrow it will be whatever coach doesn’t develop your kid enough so they can be pro players. Soon all the money in the world wont buy your way onto whatever team you think your kid should be on.

Once this happens you'll walk away from the wreckage and havoc you've created for everyone else. Happy that you "made a differnce".
Older kids tend to be better at sports than younger kids. Not sure why this accepted fact makes you bitter and angry and lash put. Saul good man.

Older kids? Your comment makes no sense.

But seriously what is the next excuse you plan to latch onto?
So you are genuinely confused that older and bigger kids are better on average at sports or just won't admit that the sky is blue? Your invented excuse diatribe is just a dead cat on the table. You wouldn't show much anger if you actually thought the switch to SY was irrelevant.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Anyone who wants to judge how the age switch may shake out only need to look look at freshmen in HS in soccer. Do the Aug-Dec birthdays outperform the Jan-Jul players? If any reach varsity, which cohort are they in?


Actually my kids high school team and a RL Q3/4 freshman start over a NL Freshmen player at the same club and played same position.

I would say their skill was even but the Q3/4 was bigger and slightly faster which got her more PT and the starting spot.

When high school was over the sub went to the ECNL 10 team and starter went to the 09 RL team.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It’s undeniable that the boost for Aug-Dec kids will be huge.

RAE is obvious.

My son’s club Academy1 team has 95% players Q1/Q2, and only one Q3 (my son).

However Academy2 is packed with Q3/Q4s.

It will change next year once SY is implemented.


You don't understand RAE.
They do, you don't.

No, you're just looking for the excuse du jour. Today its rae tomorrow it will be whatever coach doesn’t develop your kid enough so they can be pro players. Soon all the money in the world wont buy your way onto whatever team you think your kid should be on.

Once this happens you'll walk away from the wreckage and havoc you've created for everyone else. Happy that you "made a differnce".
Older kids tend to be better at sports than younger kids. Not sure why this accepted fact makes you bitter and angry and lash put. Saul good man.

Older kids? Your comment makes no sense.

But seriously what is the next excuse you plan to latch onto?
So you are genuinely confused that older and bigger kids are better on average at sports or just won't admit that the sky is blue? Your invented excuse diatribe is just a dead cat on the table. You wouldn't show much anger if you actually thought the switch to SY was irrelevant.

Ok, you are still looking for an excuse to feign why you can't see the obvious. Whatever dude.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It’s undeniable that the boost for Aug-Dec kids will be huge.

RAE is obvious.

My son’s club Academy1 team has 95% players Q1/Q2, and only one Q3 (my son).

However Academy2 is packed with Q3/Q4s.

It will change next year once SY is implemented.


You don't understand RAE.
They do, you don't.

No, you're just looking for the excuse du jour. Today its rae tomorrow it will be whatever coach doesn’t develop your kid enough so they can be pro players. Soon all the money in the world wont buy your way onto whatever team you think your kid should be on.

Once this happens you'll walk away from the wreckage and havoc you've created for everyone else. Happy that you "made a differnce".
Older kids tend to be better at sports than younger kids. Not sure why this accepted fact makes you bitter and angry and lash put. Saul good man.

Older kids? Your comment makes no sense.

But seriously what is the next excuse you plan to latch onto?
So you are genuinely confused that older and bigger kids are better on average at sports or just won't admit that the sky is blue? Your invented excuse diatribe is just a dead cat on the table. You wouldn't show much anger if you actually thought the switch to SY was irrelevant.

Ok, you are still looking for an excuse to feign why you can't see the obvious. Whatever dude.

Anonymous
At our larger ECNL club at my sons age group U15 I would say the team below would lose at least 10 NL players to the RL may be keep 6 to 8 and those players left would be bottom portion of the roster. Maybe this isn’t everywhere but from what I see at our club in all age groups NL teams will mostly be dismantled to their top 5 or 6 players. RL players will take most spots and that doesn’t include outside players coming in.
Anonymous
I don’t see the RAE advantage getting less in the puberty years it is only magnified as some kids gain advantages much sooner than others. If you are on the wrong end of puberty EVERY player you play against is bigger stronger and faster than you are. At u9 the differences are far less pronounced.

I wish everyone luck in the coming change but science doesn’t lie on this one. By kind to your kid they may have a different path than you thought they had.

Anonymous
Since we're all still arguing about RAE. Does anyone have any Intel on how clubs plan to manage tryouts this year? Will they start even earlier? In the past they already know most of the team and are only looking at a couple of players. This coming year it's going to be more interesting.
Anonymous
I wonder if tournaments held over Memorial Day or later will implement the new age groups to allow new teams to play together.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:At our larger ECNL club at my sons age group U15 I would say the team below would lose at least 10 NL players to the RL may be keep 6 to 8 and those players left would be bottom portion of the roster. Maybe this isn’t everywhere but from what I see at our club in all age groups NL teams will mostly be dismantled to their top 5 or 6 players. RL players will take most spots and that doesn’t include outside players coming in.

Ahh... So Puberty-Rae is the next excuse.

The good thing about puberty-rae is there's nothing leagues can do to address. Unless they want to implement biobanding. You could ride this excuse being a victim for a long time. You're so lucky.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:At our larger ECNL club at my sons age group U15 I would say the team below would lose at least 10 NL players to the RL may be keep 6 to 8 and those players left would be bottom portion of the roster. Maybe this isn’t everywhere but from what I see at our club in all age groups NL teams will mostly be dismantled to their top 5 or 6 players. RL players will take most spots and that doesn’t include outside players coming in.

Ahh... So Puberty-Rae is the next excuse.

The good thing about puberty-rae is there's nothing leagues can do to address. Unless they want to implement biobanding. You could ride this excuse being a victim for a long time. You're so lucky.
I understand that you are overwhelmed with change and are lashing out at those you perceive to be stealing your lunch. And from the bizarre memes, it seems you are a kid. Just relax and finish your youth soccer career and don't use the age change as your excuse because nobody else is creating them but you. People on the other side of the fence will have empathy for you and your loss if you let them. Good luck
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