The Bike Lobby is too powerful in DC...

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Plenty of people are using the bike lanes in DC. Where are you posting from? Vladivostok?


They don't. We all have eyes.


Who would ride a bike in DC. You’re not even safe riding in a car and have to lock your doors.


Riding a bike is perfectly safe, no one is trying to carjack my bike.


This young progressive got to see the end game for his policy dreams. Hopefully he will tell his buddies back on campus how the story ends.

https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/armed-thieves-steal-cyclists-canada-goose-jacket-in-northwest-dc/3497977/


Celebrating a college kid getting robbed for biking around TenleyTown in order to win an anonymous internet point is so freaking sad


When your failed policies have brought violent crime on a daily basis to a once safe part of town, you’re very worthy and deserving of public ridicule.


You're blaming a college kid for having been the victim of armed robbery, because he was on a bike when the armed robbers armed-robbed him. Wow.


He wasn’t a victim. He was foreseeable collateral damage to the policies that you and your comrades have been advocating for since 2020. When the national Democrats abandoned you in December 2022, perhaps that was the time for some self-reflection.


Huh?


So soon we forget being humiliated.

https://www.npr.org/2023/03/08/1161902691/d-c-crime-bill-biden-overturn

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Plenty of people are using the bike lanes in DC. Where are you posting from? Vladivostok?


They don't. We all have eyes.


Who would ride a bike in DC. You’re not even safe riding in a car and have to lock your doors.


Riding a bike is perfectly safe, no one is trying to carjack my bike.


This young progressive got to see the end game for his policy dreams. Hopefully he will tell his buddies back on campus how the story ends.

https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/armed-thieves-steal-cyclists-canada-goose-jacket-in-northwest-dc/3497977/


Celebrating a college kid getting robbed for biking around TenleyTown in order to win an anonymous internet point is so freaking sad


When your failed policies have brought violent crime on a daily basis to a once safe part of town, you’re very worthy and deserving of public ridicule.


You're blaming a college kid for having been the victim of armed robbery, because he was on a bike when the armed robbers armed-robbed him. Wow.


He wasn’t a victim. He was foreseeable collateral damage to the policies that you and your comrades have been advocating for since 2020. When the national Democrats abandoned you in December 2022, perhaps that was the time for some self-reflection.


Huh?


So soon we forget being humiliated.

https://www.npr.org/2023/03/08/1161902691/d-c-crime-bill-biden-overturn



So soon we move on, becuase there's more to life than harping on old news.
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Plenty of people are using the bike lanes in DC. Where are you posting from? Vladivostok?


They don't. We all have eyes.


Who would ride a bike in DC. You’re not even safe riding in a car and have to lock your doors.


Riding a bike is perfectly safe, no one is trying to carjack my bike.


This young progressive got to see the end game for his policy dreams. Hopefully he will tell his buddies back on campus how the story ends.

https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/armed-thieves-steal-cyclists-canada-goose-jacket-in-northwest-dc/3497977/


Celebrating a college kid getting robbed for biking around TenleyTown in order to win an anonymous internet point is so freaking sad


Sort of like the bike lobby celebrating every cyclist death because it proves their point about bike lanes, no?


Show us where the bike lobby has celebrated a cyclist death, exactly?


I assume this person, who has the inability or unwillingness to make distinctions, is referring to things such as ghost bikes and rallies that are used to memorialize cyclists who were killed while riding. Possibly they're referring to families of children that now advocate for safer streets after their children were killed.

Again, they are unable to understand that these measures are not "celebrating" death, because they are fixated on the bike lane culture war


They’re not celebrating death anymore than PP was celebrating the robbery of a college kid.
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Plenty of people are using the bike lanes in DC. Where are you posting from? Vladivostok?


They don't. We all have eyes.


Who would ride a bike in DC. You’re not even safe riding in a car and have to lock your doors.


Riding a bike is perfectly safe, no one is trying to carjack my bike.


This young progressive got to see the end game for his policy dreams. Hopefully he will tell his buddies back on campus how the story ends.

https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/armed-thieves-steal-cyclists-canada-goose-jacket-in-northwest-dc/3497977/


Celebrating a college kid getting robbed for biking around TenleyTown in order to win an anonymous internet point is so freaking sad


Sort of like the bike lobby celebrating every cyclist death because it proves their point about bike lanes, no?


Show us where the bike lobby has celebrated a cyclist death, exactly?


I assume this person, who has the inability or unwillingness to make distinctions, is referring to things such as ghost bikes and rallies that are used to memorialize cyclists who were killed while riding. Possibly they're referring to families of children that now advocate for safer streets after their children were killed.

Again, they are unable to understand that these measures are not "celebrating" death, because they are fixated on the bike lane culture war


They’re not celebrating death anymore than PP was celebrating the robbery of a college kid.


You're right, PP wasn't celebrating the robbery of a college kid, PP was merely blaming the victim (the college kid) for getting robbed.
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Plenty of people are using the bike lanes in DC. Where are you posting from? Vladivostok?


They don't. We all have eyes.


Who would ride a bike in DC. You’re not even safe riding in a car and have to lock your doors.


Riding a bike is perfectly safe, no one is trying to carjack my bike.


This young progressive got to see the end game for his policy dreams. Hopefully he will tell his buddies back on campus how the story ends.

https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/armed-thieves-steal-cyclists-canada-goose-jacket-in-northwest-dc/3497977/


Celebrating a college kid getting robbed for biking around TenleyTown in order to win an anonymous internet point is so freaking sad


When your failed policies have brought violent crime on a daily basis to a once safe part of town, you’re very worthy and deserving of public ridicule.


You're blaming a college kid for having been the victim of armed robbery, because he was on a bike when the armed robbers armed-robbed him. Wow.


He wasn’t a victim. He was foreseeable collateral damage to the policies that you and your comrades have been advocating for since 2020. When the national Democrats abandoned you in December 2022, perhaps that was the time for some self-reflection.


Huh?


So soon we forget being humiliated.

https://www.npr.org/2023/03/08/1161902691/d-c-crime-bill-biden-overturn



So soon we move on, becuase there's more to life than harping on old news.


The city will start to move on in a few weeks when we can start the recall effort.
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Plenty of people are using the bike lanes in DC. Where are you posting from? Vladivostok?


They don't. We all have eyes.


Who would ride a bike in DC. You’re not even safe riding in a car and have to lock your doors.


Riding a bike is perfectly safe, no one is trying to carjack my bike.


This young progressive got to see the end game for his policy dreams. Hopefully he will tell his buddies back on campus how the story ends.

https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/armed-thieves-steal-cyclists-canada-goose-jacket-in-northwest-dc/3497977/


Celebrating a college kid getting robbed for biking around TenleyTown in order to win an anonymous internet point is so freaking sad


When your failed policies have brought violent crime on a daily basis to a once safe part of town, you’re very worthy and deserving of public ridicule.


You're blaming a college kid for having been the victim of armed robbery, because he was on a bike when the armed robbers armed-robbed him. Wow.


He wasn’t a victim. He was foreseeable collateral damage to the policies that you and your comrades have been advocating for since 2020. When the national Democrats abandoned you in December 2022, perhaps that was the time for some self-reflection.


Huh?


So soon we forget being humiliated.

https://www.npr.org/2023/03/08/1161902691/d-c-crime-bill-biden-overturn



So soon we move on, becuase there's more to life than harping on old news.


The city will start to move on in a few weeks when we can start the recall effort.


Very glad that you'll have something else to occupy your time
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Transit surveys show biking is becoming less popular in DC. The government is spending more and more money on fewer and fewer people.


Which, you know, is kind of weird, because year by year, I see more people biking in DC. Well, who am I going to trust, some anonymous rando on DCUM or my lying eyes?


Neither! You could just look at the data. It's not that hard. The Metropolitan Washington Council of Governments puts out an annual transit report. TL;DR: Every form of transportation is becoming less popular, except driving, which is way up. It also says cyclists are exactly who you'd think: white, young, upper income and (because of that) they live close to wear they work. Drivers are disproportionately Black and Hispanic.


This isn't in and of itself a reason to oppose bike lanes, though. And actually, people who live near to where they work are a good universe to target with policies that might get them not to drive, because then they're not adding to congestion on the roads (if they're in a protected bike lane, they are not interfering with car trips by people driving from farther away) and it may not be a significantly longer commute to bike rather than drive. Obviously, the main users of bike lanes are not going to be people coming from 15 or 20 miles away, it's going to be people who live and work relatively near where they're biking.


Basically you're saying we should spend billions of dollars building up an entirely separate transportation system for white cyclists who are rich enough to live in the most desirable parts of the city, and if that makes car traffic a whole lot worse for predominantly black and brown drivers who don't live within such easy distance of their jobs and other places they need to go, then I guess you'd just say that's too bad. Seems kind of racist, doesn't it?


It’s not a coincidence that the biggest advocates of bike lanes on the city council represent lily white neighborhoods and the biggest critics of bike lanes come from wards 7 and 8


Vince Grey supports bike lanes. The majority of Ward 8 residents want more bike infrastructure despite their councilmember.


This debate shouldn’t be about pro bike lanes or anti bike lanes. People may support bike lanes in many places but location and context matters. Constraining Northwest Washington’s major arterial road and diverting traffic into lesser capacity streets is simply not smart transportation planning.


The police have said the bike lanes will lead to MORE accidents. Which is completely obvious to just about everyone except the bike bros.


100 percent. I worry about hitting a cyclist a lot because they're so unpredictable. They seem to ignore pretty much all traffic laws so you never know what they're going to do and they don't seem to care if no one can see them at night.


+1! Why do bikers think that stop lights/signs don't apply to them? I'm a walker and even I stop at these things???


This behavior seems to be spreading to everyone on two wheels. People on scooters and motorcycles seem to think they don't have to stop for anything, including red traffic lights.


I friggin' despise the motorized scooters and (unlicensed) motor bikes that dart between traffic and endanger pedestrians on sidewalks. Anything with a motor should not be on pedestrian walkways.


I saw a teenager on a scooter on Georgia Avenue at rush hour at night. I am astonished the city promotes this sort of thing. It is so unsafe. One of these kids is going to get killed and I hope the family sues the beejeesus out of the city.


Um, yes?

If you're worried about the risk to this teenager of a driver hitting and killing them, I sure hope you support protected bike lanes.


This cyclist would be thrilled to see a few kids killed if it advances their cause


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Transit surveys show biking is becoming less popular in DC. The government is spending more and more money on fewer and fewer people.


Which, you know, is kind of weird, because year by year, I see more people biking in DC. Well, who am I going to trust, some anonymous rando on DCUM or my lying eyes?


Neither! You could just look at the data. It's not that hard. The Metropolitan Washington Council of Governments puts out an annual transit report. TL;DR: Every form of transportation is becoming less popular, except driving, which is way up. It also says cyclists are exactly who you'd think: white, young, upper income and (because of that) they live close to wear they work. Drivers are disproportionately Black and Hispanic.


This isn't in and of itself a reason to oppose bike lanes, though. And actually, people who live near to where they work are a good universe to target with policies that might get them not to drive, because then they're not adding to congestion on the roads (if they're in a protected bike lane, they are not interfering with car trips by people driving from farther away) and it may not be a significantly longer commute to bike rather than drive. Obviously, the main users of bike lanes are not going to be people coming from 15 or 20 miles away, it's going to be people who live and work relatively near where they're biking.


Basically you're saying we should spend billions of dollars building up an entirely separate transportation system for white cyclists who are rich enough to live in the most desirable parts of the city, and if that makes car traffic a whole lot worse for predominantly black and brown drivers who don't live within such easy distance of their jobs and other places they need to go, then I guess you'd just say that's too bad. Seems kind of racist, doesn't it?


It’s not a coincidence that the biggest advocates of bike lanes on the city council represent lily white neighborhoods and the biggest critics of bike lanes come from wards 7 and 8


Vince Grey supports bike lanes. The majority of Ward 8 residents want more bike infrastructure despite their councilmember.


This debate shouldn’t be about pro bike lanes or anti bike lanes. People may support bike lanes in many places but location and context matters. Constraining Northwest Washington’s major arterial road and diverting traffic into lesser capacity streets is simply not smart transportation planning.


The police have said the bike lanes will lead to MORE accidents. Which is completely obvious to just about everyone except the bike bros.


100 percent. I worry about hitting a cyclist a lot because they're so unpredictable. They seem to ignore pretty much all traffic laws so you never know what they're going to do and they don't seem to care if no one can see them at night.


+1! Why do bikers think that stop lights/signs don't apply to them? I'm a walker and even I stop at these things???


This behavior seems to be spreading to everyone on two wheels. People on scooters and motorcycles seem to think they don't have to stop for anything, including red traffic lights.


I friggin' despise the motorized scooters and (unlicensed) motor bikes that dart between traffic and endanger pedestrians on sidewalks. Anything with a motor should not be on pedestrian walkways.


I saw a teenager on a scooter on Georgia Avenue at rush hour at night. I am astonished the city promotes this sort of thing. It is so unsafe. One of these kids is going to get killed and I hope the family sues the beejeesus out of the city.


Um, yes?

If you're worried about the risk to this teenager of a driver hitting and killing them, I sure hope you support protected bike lanes.


This cyclist would be thrilled to see a few kids killed if it advances their cause


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Don't say you weren't warned. Our stupid government can't even regulate children riding pseudo motorcycles on the city's busiest streets thanks to the bike lobby's opposition to any regulations whatsoever.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/29/health/ebikes-teens-parents.html



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Plenty of people are using the bike lanes in DC. Where are you posting from? Vladivostok?


They don't. We all have eyes.


Who would ride a bike in DC. You’re not even safe riding in a car and have to lock your doors.


Riding a bike is perfectly safe, no one is trying to carjack my bike.


This young progressive got to see the end game for his policy dreams. Hopefully he will tell his buddies back on campus how the story ends.

https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/armed-thieves-steal-cyclists-canada-goose-jacket-in-northwest-dc/3497977/


Celebrating a college kid getting robbed for biking around TenleyTown in order to win an anonymous internet point is so freaking sad


When your failed policies have brought violent crime on a daily basis to a once safe part of town, you’re very worthy and deserving of public ridicule.


You're blaming a college kid for having been the victim of armed robbery, because he was on a bike when the armed robbers armed-robbed him. Wow.


When progressive policies come eye to eye in the wild there can only be but one winner. The score:

Team Bike Lanes Everywhere 0
Team Defund the Police 1

Next up: Team Sanctuary Cities vs. Team Above Market Housing Voucher. Who will win? Should be a banger!


After a record day on the border Team Sanctuary Cities gets the W! Next up in the Progressive Policies Race to the Bottom:

Team Drug Decriminalization Policy vs. Team Legalized Stolen Goods Street Vendor Policy.

DUDE, where’s my winner! Can anyone beat Team Defund?
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Anonymous wrote:You lost me at “Bike Lobby.”

People should be able to ride bicycles safely, without constantly being at risk of injury or death. In places like the Netherlands, this is the norm. Maybe you should broaden your thinking to realize there’s more to transplantation and infrastructure than car culture.


Sounds like you need to move to Holland. Hasta la Lowlands, Dutchboy!
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Anonymous wrote:You lost me at “Bike Lobby.”

People should be able to ride bicycles safely, without constantly being at risk of injury or death. In places like the Netherlands, this is the norm. Maybe you should broaden your thinking to realize there’s more to transplantation and infrastructure than car culture.


Sounds like you need to move to Holland. Hasta la Lowlands, Dutchboy!


Aww you were so excited to have someone respond to you again.
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Anonymous wrote:It's kind of insane how much of our transportation resources have been hijacked by a tiny group of Bernie bros


Males with no kids benefit - anyone with kids is not using the bike lanes in the am and I never had a job that I could show up sweaty wearing biking clothing makes no sense


I (a woman) biked my kids to school regularly for years while en route to my fancy downtown office job. There was a gym onsite, so I could shower and dress there.


+1, at many offices, it's very easy to "show up sweaty wearing biking clothing" and then just shower and change before you go upstairs. Does depend on when you have to be in the office vs. when you have to be at school for dropoff, but this idea of PP's that it's completely impossible for (a) parents or (b) specifically moms to bike to work is silly. You also don't have to bike in "biking clothing," though it is often more comfortable.

(At my kid's elementary school in upper NW, drop-off is very dad-heavy, anyway.)


the vast majority of people do NOT have the luxury of a full service gym on-site with shower. Get a grip.

Adding more bike lanes is no different that reducing taxes on the rich. They benefit a very small subset of people.


You do realize that bicycles are cheaper than cars, d+1, as a cyclocross/mtb racer, this is so true. no one wears those clothes except for races and long training rides. i recently did a 16 mile mtb season tryout with just the clothes i happened to have on. anyone in spandex is probably from the team Kelly Benefits, and their racers are significantly faster than any cars going down that stretc of new mexico. more agile, too
on’t you? Even those fancy electric bikes some people get these days? And that there is no obligation to wear special biking clothing or even to get super sweaty (either by using an aforementioned electric bike or
even just allowing more time and not exerting yourself to the point you get sweaty)?

If you’ve ever been to one of those magical European cities where people regularly get around by bicycle, you’ll quickly realize that dressing like you’re in the Tour de France for your morning commute is pretty much a US/Canadian phenomenon.
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Most bike commuters are not wearing lycra, no matter how much you want to claim otherwise.
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As a pedestrian, the main thing I hate about cyclists is that they take priority over walkers. They don’t stop at cross walks, they don’t follow signs or traffic lights, and they are often biking way too fast in a city where there are so many walkers. If I’m in a cross walk, you cyclist need slow down and go by me safely. You shouldn't take priority over walkers in a cross walk.
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Anonymous wrote:As a pedestrian, the main thing I hate about cyclists is that they take priority over walkers. They don’t stop at cross walks, they don’t follow signs or traffic lights, and they are often biking way too fast in a city where there are so many walkers. If I’m in a cross walk, you cyclist need slow down and go by me safely. You shouldn't take priority over walkers in a cross walk.


We should just continue on with our status quo of letting four ton piles of machinery buzz you in your sidewalk while you whine about cyclists, who have 0.00000001% of the odds of snuffing you and your entire family out in the blink of an eye.
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