The Bike Lobby is too powerful in DC...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There are too few bike lanes, there needs to be far more bike infrastructure. Sorry.

I agree! And I’m not sorry about it. We need more and safer biking infrastructure

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Same problems in Arlington. Bike lanes unused, wheeled vehicles an e vehicles endangering pedestrians on sidewalks and paved trails.

Many who complain about bike lanes not being used don't seem to understand the reason that the respective DOTs install them. In most cases, their use by cyclists is a side effect. Their main function is to narrow roadways and, in so doing, slow traffic down to safer speeds along arterial roads that traverse residential neighborhoods. In most cases, the DOTs are fairly upfront about this goal.

But it's also worth considering that largescale changes in transportation modes do not happen overnight. It was only because I had access to safe cycling routes as a kid that I feel comfortable as an adult. That bicycle commuting is not as popular in the DMV as perhaps it should be is a function of the fact that much of our bicycle infrastructure has only been installed in the past few years. People will take a while to shift modes. Y'all need to have more patience.

This seems like a perpetual excuse for the failure of bike lanes. People should wait 30-40 years to see if they are used?? Yes that’s make traffic worse and diminish quality of life for residents for half of their half of their life before deciding to get rid of a failed policy idea. That makes no sense. People are not going to start biking in mass number from Bethesda to Navy Yard or Capitol Hill in mass numbers. Even if you are one of the few people willing to bike 1 hour+ each way, bad weather makes in not feasible to bike most days of the year assuming that you need to look presentable for your job. It’s either too hot, raining or too windy and you will look like a complete mess by the time you get to the office. These policies are not effective and the end result will be encouraging company offices and residents to relocate to VA or MD.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are too few bike lanes, there needs to be far more bike infrastructure. Sorry.

I agree! And I’m not sorry about it. We need more and safer biking infrastructure

Not efficient.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Same problems in Arlington. Bike lanes unused, wheeled vehicles an e vehicles endangering pedestrians on sidewalks and paved trails.

Many who complain about bike lanes not being used don't seem to understand the reason that the respective DOTs install them. In most cases, their use by cyclists is a side effect. Their main function is to narrow roadways and, in so doing, slow traffic down to safer speeds along arterial roads that traverse residential neighborhoods. In most cases, the DOTs are fairly upfront about this goal.

But it's also worth considering that largescale changes in transportation modes do not happen overnight. It was only because I had access to safe cycling routes as a kid that I feel comfortable as an adult. That bicycle commuting is not as popular in the DMV as perhaps it should be is a function of the fact that much of our bicycle infrastructure has only been installed in the past few years. People will take a while to shift modes. Y'all need to have more patience.

DC has had bike lanes for 20 years. Traffic deaths attributable to speeding are rare. You're literally 10 times more likely to be murdered. Are you afraid of being murdered?

[Anonymous]

the bike lobby is so powerful that few new bike lanes have been installed and now the city is taking some away.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Same problems in Arlington. Bike lanes unused, wheeled vehicles an e vehicles endangering pedestrians on sidewalks and paved trails.

Many who complain about bike lanes not being used don't seem to understand the reason that the respective DOTs install them. In most cases, their use by cyclists is a side effect. Their main function is to narrow roadways and, in so doing, slow traffic down to safer speeds along arterial roads that traverse residential neighborhoods. In most cases, the DOTs are fairly upfront about this goal.

But it's also worth considering that largescale changes in transportation modes do not happen overnight. It was only because I had access to safe cycling routes as a kid that I feel comfortable as an adult. That bicycle commuting is not as popular in the DMV as perhaps it should be is a function of the fact that much of our bicycle infrastructure has only been installed in the past few years. People will take a while to shift modes. Y'all need to have more patience.

DC has had bike lanes for 20 years. Traffic deaths attributable to speeding are rare. You're literally 10 times more likely to be murdered. Are you afraid of being murdered?

Shut up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:the bike lobby is so powerful that few new bike lanes have been installed and now the city is taking some away.

Yeah, this new move with the Arizona Avenue lanes should dispel once and for all the myth of the all-powerful bike lobby. No one who rides a bike in this city would recognize the wild story people on here tell about how much clout cyclists have in D.C. politics anyway, but at least now there's tangible proof.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:the bike lobby is so powerful that few new bike lanes have been installed and now the city is taking some away.

Yeah, this new move with the Arizona Avenue lanes should dispel once and for all the myth of the all-powerful bike lobby. No one who rides a bike in this city would recognize the wild story people on here tell about how much clout cyclists have in D.C. politics anyway, but at least now there's tangible proof.

I mean, obviously, the bike lobby is powerful. the government has spend *billions* of dollars over the years to subsidize the hobby of a small number of upper income white men (this, in a city where one quarter of children live in poverty). now the tide is turning and, hopefully, most of the bike lanes will eventually be removed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:the bike lobby is so powerful that few new bike lanes have been installed and now the city is taking some away.

Yeah, this new move with the Arizona Avenue lanes should dispel once and for all the myth of the all-powerful bike lobby. No one who rides a bike in this city would recognize the wild story people on here tell about how much clout cyclists have in D.C. politics anyway, but at least now there's tangible proof.

I mean, obviously, the bike lobby is powerful. the government has spend *billions* of dollars over the years to subsidize the hobby of a small number of upper income white men (this, in a city where one quarter of children live in poverty). now the tide is turning and, hopefully, most of the bike lanes will eventually be removed.

Lol none of these are true. Not the billions of dollars, not the hobby part, not the upper income, not the white, not the men.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:the bike lobby is so powerful that few new bike lanes have been installed and now the city is taking some away.

Yeah, this new move with the Arizona Avenue lanes should dispel once and for all the myth of the all-powerful bike lobby. No one who rides a bike in this city would recognize the wild story people on here tell about how much clout cyclists have in D.C. politics anyway, but at least now there's tangible proof.

I mean, obviously, the bike lobby is powerful. the government has spend *billions* of dollars over the years to subsidize the hobby of a small number of upper income white men (this, in a city where one quarter of children live in poverty). now the tide is turning and, hopefully, most of the bike lanes will eventually be removed.

The white men hobbyists don’t ride in the bike lanes.

[Anonymous]

I work in Navy Yard and the most likely users of bike lanes along M Street are black.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:the bike lobby is so powerful that few new bike lanes have been installed and now the city is taking some away.

Yeah, this new move with the Arizona Avenue lanes should dispel once and for all the myth of the all-powerful bike lobby. No one who rides a bike in this city would recognize the wild story people on here tell about how much clout cyclists have in D.C. politics anyway, but at least now there's tangible proof.

I mean, obviously, the bike lobby is powerful. the government has spend *billions* of dollars over the years to subsidize the hobby of a small number of upper income white men (this, in a city where one quarter of children live in poverty). now the tide is turning and, hopefully, most of the bike lanes will eventually be removed.

Lol none of these are true. Not the billions of dollars, not the hobby part, not the upper income, not the white, not the men.

I'm sorry the facts hurt your feelings. You can just look at the city's budget or basically any transportation survey. You have to be pretty well off to be able to live within biking distance of where you need to go.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Same problems in Arlington. Bike lanes unused, wheeled vehicles an e vehicles endangering pedestrians on sidewalks and paved trails.

Many who complain about bike lanes not being used don't seem to understand the reason that the respective DOTs install them. In most cases, their use by cyclists is a side effect. Their main function is to narrow roadways and, in so doing, slow traffic down to safer speeds along arterial roads that traverse residential neighborhoods. In most cases, the DOTs are fairly upfront about this goal.

But it's also worth considering that largescale changes in transportation modes do not happen overnight. It was only because I had access to safe cycling routes as a kid that I feel comfortable as an adult. That bicycle commuting is not as popular in the DMV as perhaps it should be is a function of the fact that much of our bicycle infrastructure has only been installed in the past few years. People will take a while to shift modes. Y'all need to have more patience.

You said the quiet part out loud. The primary reason for bike lanes on existing roadways is to create more traffic jams.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Same problems in Arlington. Bike lanes unused, wheeled vehicles an e vehicles endangering pedestrians on sidewalks and paved trails.

Many who complain about bike lanes not being used don't seem to understand the reason that the respective DOTs install them. In most cases, their use by cyclists is a side effect. Their main function is to narrow roadways and, in so doing, slow traffic down to safer speeds along arterial roads that traverse residential neighborhoods. In most cases, the DOTs are fairly upfront about this goal.

But it's also worth considering that largescale changes in transportation modes do not happen overnight. It was only because I had access to safe cycling routes as a kid that I feel comfortable as an adult. That bicycle commuting is not as popular in the DMV as perhaps it should be is a function of the fact that much of our bicycle infrastructure has only been installed in the past few years. People will take a while to shift modes. Y'all need to have more patience.

This seems like a perpetual excuse for the failure of bike lanes. People should wait 30-40 years to see if they are used?? Yes that’s make traffic worse and diminish quality of life for residents for half of their half of their life before deciding to get rid of a failed policy idea. That makes no sense. People are not going to start biking in mass number from Bethesda to Navy Yard or Capitol Hill in mass numbers. Even if you are one of the few people willing to bike 1 hour+ each way, bad weather makes in not feasible to bike most days of the year assuming that you need to look presentable for your job. It’s either too hot, raining or too windy and you will look like a complete mess by the time you get to the office. These policies are not effective and the end result will be encouraging company offices and residents to relocate to VA or MD.

It's the crunchy version of "We'll be greeted as liberators."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Same problems in Arlington. Bike lanes unused, wheeled vehicles an e vehicles endangering pedestrians on sidewalks and paved trails.

Many who complain about bike lanes not being used don't seem to understand the reason that the respective DOTs install them. In most cases, their use by cyclists is a side effect. Their main function is to narrow roadways and, in so doing, slow traffic down to safer speeds along arterial roads that traverse residential neighborhoods. In most cases, the DOTs are fairly upfront about this goal.

But it's also worth considering that largescale changes in transportation modes do not happen overnight. It was only because I had access to safe cycling routes as a kid that I feel comfortable as an adult. That bicycle commuting is not as popular in the DMV as perhaps it should be is a function of the fact that much of our bicycle infrastructure has only been installed in the past few years. People will take a while to shift modes. Y'all need to have more patience.

You said the quiet part out loud. The primary reason for bike lanes on existing roadways is to create more traffic jams.

I’ll keep beating this drum that street parking is a far worse use of road space than any bike or bus lane. It literally moves 0 people while consuming as much as half of the right of way. When drivers complain about that then we’ll know they’re serious.