Trump - “Why are we having all these people from shithole countries come here?”

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Anonymous wrote:Many Africans and Haitians are posting extensive defenses of their countries on Facebook. When asked why they left they'd countries, they answer a variant of what the US offers them. I find it interesting that they left countries but now jump to their defense.

Oh stop being disingenuous.

The president didn't say "there are serious problems in Hait and some African countries." If he had no one would have disagreed with that. Instead, he dismissed them with a vulgarity, and implied their inhabitants are not the sort of people we want in the US. Here's a hint: that's an insult.

How many Americans go ape-shit if people say anything negative about this country. How many times do you hear "leave this country if you don't like it" or "love it or leave it" or "my country right or wrong" -- just because someone dares to critique something about the US that can be improved?

Except that Trump, of course, can imply America's not great rignt now (MAGA) and these same people go wild with applause.

Ethiopia is a shithole. In fact the late Emperor Haile Selassie's head was stuff in a toilet full of shit when the opposition killed him. The Haitians and Africans posting on Facebook are defending the shithole countries they fled. Not disingenuous, simply reality. No one is leaving Norway because it's not a shithole. Few people immigrate from the US because it's not a shithold. Many people leave South Sunda, because it is a shithole Many people leave Equitorial Guinea because it is a shithole. If these places were so great, why would people leave them? No one can or will answer this question.

Spot-on. You're my new favorite poster.
We have friends who travel extensively throughout Europe. They were appalled by Trump's "shithole" comment, so we asked if they had ever considered traveling to Haiti or any African countries. Of course, their answer was no. "But why?" we asked. Crickets.

The only Americans I met in Haiti outside of Port au Prince were conservative Christian aid workers. In several African countries the Chinese are rebuilding the infrastructure to establish factories and shipping centers because Africans work for less than the Chinese. If they can continue the economic colonization in sub-Saharan Africa, fewer people may leave. Rwanda was a prime shitholeb following the genocide, now the Chinese have cleaned it up

I have wondered when that was going to happen. China's eventually going to run out of cheap labor as their standards of living grows so they are expanding to the last place where you can still find cheap labor and people willing to work for pennies.

This is exactly what happened in Taiwan and S. Korea. Remember a few decades ago when everything cheap was made in Taiwan or S. Korea? Labor costs there have sky rocketed and now they outsource their manufacturing to cheaper places like Cambodia and Vietnam.

the only way those manufacturing jobs will come back to the US is if our standard of living and labor costs are that of the 3rd world, ie, we become a sh1thole.

That's right and remember that Africa will have nearly half of the working age people by mid-Century.

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone please ask Trump during his next presss conference whether Slovenia is a shithole?

Actually, no. It's a picturesque, safe and friendly country. Perfect for retirement, but for young people probably not.

Why don't young people like it there? I see a lot of Slovenians in their late teens-early 20s at our beach town every summer, working at the grocery stores, tourist shops, hotel pools, etc. Our neighborhood pool also hires them as lifeguards until the neighborhood college kids get home for the summer. Apparently there's a huge market for them to come to America and quite a few are interested in staying permanently if they can figure out a way to do so (i.e., fall in love quickly and marry an American citizen).

Frenzied person attacking Slovenia, why exactly? Because of Melania, clearly.

Why don't you google pictures of Slovenia and you'll learn a little about the place. It's the most wooded/green country in Europe for starters. You'll have to work pretty hard to find a single bad picture.

If it's so great why did Melania leave?

Not enough work for second tier “models” who can only get work in porn shoots.

And she worked here illegally. Why do we need to import more models into this country on H1Bs? Do we not have enough skinny women looking to take off their clothes for money in this country? I've read about how American models don't have enough money to live on so they use "dates" to buy them dinners. If we stopped importing H1B models like Melania maybe these real American models could be paid more and buy their own meals.

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Anonymous wrote:I’ve never been to Africa or Haiti, but have friends who have lived in both and they conceded that they are challenging places but they also have good things to say about the people they met there. To me, the most offensive thing about Trump’s comments is not that the places themselves are shitholes, but that the people that live there are somehow second class and not deserving of entrance to America. There are some posters on here who similarly seem to think that Haitian and Afraid can immigrants are only good for menial, manual labor jobs. Clearly they don’t know many immigrants from these countries. The ones I know are so grateful for their opportunity, work hard, and co tribute more to our economy than you realize.

On the other hand, while yes, there are fewer jobs building railroads, etc., the service sector is huge and Americans have an aversion to farm labor. So Trump et al. will need to find a way to fill these positions if they cutoff immigration of low-skill workers.

Please tell us the jobs held by the many immigrants you know.

Both of my oncologists. Both shitholers.

You know 2 oncologists, and I employ nearly 200 immigrants from 37 shithole countries. Your oncologists were from the families who turned one if not two countries into shitholes.

Cool story. Where do you keep your Pulitzer, Oscar and Heisman?

Not as good as you are, son. The best I have is an "I love Daddy" cup my daughter gave me a few years ago and my EIN.

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone please ask Trump during his next presss conference whether Slovenia is a shithole?

Actually, no. It's a picturesque, safe and friendly country. Perfect for retirement, but for young people probably not.

Why don't young people like it there? I see a lot of Slovenians in their late teens-early 20s at our beach town every summer, working at the grocery stores, tourist shops, hotel pools, etc. Our neighborhood pool also hires them as lifeguards until the neighborhood college kids get home for the summer. Apparently there's a huge market for them to come to America and quite a few are interested in staying permanently if they can figure out a way to do so (i.e., fall in love quickly and marry an American citizen).

Frenzied person attacking Slovenia, why exactly? Because of Melania, clearly.

Why don't you google pictures of Slovenia and you'll learn a little about the place. It's the most wooded/green country in Europe for starters. You'll have to work pretty hard to find a single bad picture.

If it's so great why did Melania leave?

Not enough work for second tier “models” who can only get work in porn shoots.

And she worked here illegally. Why do we need to import more models into this country on H1Bs? Do we not have enough skinny women looking to take off their clothes for money in this country? I've read about how American models don't have enough money to live on so they use "dates" to buy them dinners. If we stopped importing H1B models like Melania maybe these real American models could be paid more and buy their own meals.

Actually many American women are too well fed as children to maintain the size two body needed for fashion modeling. That is why many models come from African, South American, and Eastern European countries.

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone please ask Trump during his next presss conference whether Slovenia is a shithole?

Actually, no. It's a picturesque, safe and friendly country. Perfect for retirement, but for young people probably not.

Why don't young people like it there? I see a lot of Slovenians in their late teens-early 20s at our beach town every summer, working at the grocery stores, tourist shops, hotel pools, etc. Our neighborhood pool also hires them as lifeguards until the neighborhood college kids get home for the summer. Apparently there's a huge market for them to come to America and quite a few are interested in staying permanently if they can figure out a way to do so (i.e., fall in love quickly and marry an American citizen).

Frenzied person attacking Slovenia, why exactly? Because of Melania, clearly.

Why don't you google pictures of Slovenia and you'll learn a little about the place. It's the most wooded/green country in Europe for starters. You'll have to work pretty hard to find a single bad picture.

Still doesn't answer the question of why Slovenians are coming to the US to work.

Africa is a gorgeous continent with views that rival anything in North America. Have you ever been to Mt. Kilimanjaro, Victoria Falls, the Saharan Desert, or Sidi Bou Said?

You are dense. Have you ever heard of "boat people" from Slovenia? Doesn't exist. Are those young Slovenians overstaying their visas to work under the table here? Very few if any.

Attacking Slovenia as some sort of turnabout for Trump's statements about Haiti is just weird. Don't you see the irony of it? I guess not.

Slovenia really has no part in this argument, one way or the other. It's a peaceful little place. Leave it be.

Slovenia has rampant unemployment and low wages for those who did manage to find a job.

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Anonymous wrote:Many Africans and Haitians are posting extensive defenses of their countries on Facebook. When asked why they left they'd countries, they answer a variant of what the US offers them. I find it interesting that they left countries but now jump to their defense.

Oh stop being disingenuous.

The president didn't say "there are serious problems in Hait and some African countries." If he had no one would have disagreed with that. Instead, he dismissed them with a vulgarity, and implied their inhabitants are not the sort of people we want in the US. Here's a hint: that's an insult.

How many Americans go ape-shit if people say anything negative about this country. How many times do you hear "leave this country if you don't like it" or "love it or leave it" or "my country right or wrong" -- just because someone dares to critique something about the US that can be improved?

Except that Trump, of course, can imply America's not great rignt now (MAGA) and these same people go wild with applause.

Ethiopia is a shithole. In fact the late Emperor Haile Selassie's head was stuff in a toilet full of shit when the opposition killed him. The Haitians and Africans posting on Facebook are defending the shithole countries they fled. Not disingenuous, simply reality. No one is leaving Norway because it's not a shithole. Few people immigrate from the US because it's not a shithold. Many people leave South Sunda, because it is a shithole Many people leave Equitorial Guinea because it is a shithole. If these places were so great, why would people leave them? No one can or will answer this question.

Spot-on. You're my new favorite poster.
We have friends who travel extensively throughout Europe. They were appalled by Trump's "shithole" comment, so we asked if they had ever considered traveling to Haiti or any African countries. Of course, their answer was no. "But why?" we asked. Crickets.

Has our education system really failed to this extent?

Trump implied that the people coming from these countries have something wrong with them. That is vicious and untrue.

Sadly yes, our education system has failed. The way racism supersedes basic critical thinking skills in the minds of so many proves that out.

Our educational system is strained to the point of failure in many places because of the extremely large numbers of students for whom we're trying to provide the needed education to attend college and/or technical training while also providing special needs services, breakfast/lunch/snacks/weekend backpacks, counseling, psychological evaluations, medical treatment, after school care, music and art opportunities, second language instruction, etc. IT IS EXPENSIVE.

And then add in the liberal fight to provide sanctuary for illegal immigrants, and we have some schools where 1/3 of the students are ESOL. That comes with big costs - both quantifiable and unquantifiable.

1/3 ESOL? Bailey's 65.48 English Learner and 71.9 FRPM. http://schoolprofiles.fcps.edu/schlprfl/f?p=108:13:::NO:0_CURRENT_SCHOOL_ID,P0_EDSL:103,0

Bailey's Upper School is over 68% LEP and 75.92% FRPM. The Minority Student Achievement 2017 report combines statistics on Black and Hispanic often combining white-Asian. Now when TJ is 75% Asian why are those combined?

Page 13 of 32 lists Hybla Valley at 91% Black and Hispanic. Now the real breakdown is 81% Hispanic , 5% Asian, 10% Black, 2 % white, etc.
65% Limited English Proficiency so if every Asian and Black student got LEP that still leaves 50%-remove white or other and the school hypothetically still has 47% Hispanic LEP .

So why is data combined on Black and Hispanic?

You might be happier with your fellow white supremecists in Montana.

Montana has rooms for steers and queers. Seems like thar latter suits you more

Isn’t it time to start your shift at Applebee’s, doofus?

OMG. You are so damn witty. LMFAO.

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Anonymous wrote:Many Africans and Haitians are posting extensive defenses of their countries on Facebook. When asked why they left they'd countries, they answer a variant of what the US offers them. I find it interesting that they left countries but now jump to their defense.

Oh stop being disingenuous.

The president didn't say "there are serious problems in Hait and some African countries." If he had no one would have disagreed with that. Instead, he dismissed them with a vulgarity, and implied their inhabitants are not the sort of people we want in the US. Here's a hint: that's an insult.

How many Americans go ape-shit if people say anything negative about this country. How many times do you hear "leave this country if you don't like it" or "love it or leave it" or "my country right or wrong" -- just because someone dares to critique something about the US that can be improved?

Except that Trump, of course, can imply America's not great rignt now (MAGA) and these same people go wild with applause.

Ethiopia is a shithole. In fact the late Emperor Haile Selassie's head was stuff in a toilet full of shit when the opposition killed him. The Haitians and Africans posting on Facebook are defending the shithole countries they fled. Not disingenuous, simply reality. No one is leaving Norway because it's not a shithole. Few people immigrate from the US because it's not a shithold. Many people leave South Sunda, because it is a shithole Many people leave Equitorial Guinea because it is a shithole. If these places were so great, why would people leave them? No one can or will answer this question.

Spot-on. You're my new favorite poster.
We have friends who travel extensively throughout Europe. They were appalled by Trump's "shithole" comment, so we asked if they had ever considered traveling to Haiti or any African countries. Of course, their answer was no. "But why?" we asked. Crickets.

The only Americans I met in Haiti outside of Port au Prince were conservative Christian aid workers. In several African countries the Chinese are rebuilding the infrastructure to establish factories and shipping centers because Africans work for less than the Chinese. If they can continue the economic colonization in sub-Saharan Africa, fewer people may leave. Rwanda was a prime shitholeb following the genocide, now the Chinese have cleaned it up

I have wondered when that was going to happen. China's eventually going to run out of cheap labor as their standards of living grows so they are expanding to the last place where you can still find cheap labor and people willing to work for pennies.

This is exactly what happened in Taiwan and S. Korea. Remember a few decades ago when everything cheap was made in Taiwan or S. Korea? Labor costs there have sky rocketed and now they outsource their manufacturing to cheaper places like Cambodia and Vietnam.

the only way those manufacturing jobs will come back to the US is if our standard of living and labor costs are that of the 3rd world, ie, we become a sh1thole.

That's right and remember that Africa will have nearly half of the working age people by mid-Century.

Indeed, Trump's own clothing line is made in a sh1thole country - Bangladesh, and he thinks they are the best.

He's fine with using their cheap labor apparently, but not fine with with helping them deal with refugees. They are a poor country but are willing to help refugees out, unlike Trump.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-myanmar-rohingya-bangladesh-trump-exc/exclusive-bangladesh-pm-says-expects-no-help-from-trump-on-refugees-fleeing-myanmar-idUSKCN1BU07C

Oh, and look... a poor Muslim country has a female PM.

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone please ask Trump during his next presss conference whether Slovenia is a shithole?

Actually, no. It's a picturesque, safe and friendly country. Perfect for retirement, but for young people probably not.

Why don't young people like it there? I see a lot of Slovenians in their late teens-early 20s at our beach town every summer, working at the grocery stores, tourist shops, hotel pools, etc. Our neighborhood pool also hires them as lifeguards until the neighborhood college kids get home for the summer. Apparently there's a huge market for them to come to America and quite a few are interested in staying permanently if they can figure out a way to do so (i.e., fall in love quickly and marry an American citizen).

Frenzied person attacking Slovenia, why exactly? Because of Melania, clearly.

Why don't you google pictures of Slovenia and you'll learn a little about the place. It's the most wooded/green country in Europe for starters. You'll have to work pretty hard to find a single bad picture.

Still doesn't answer the question of why Slovenians are coming to the US to work.

Africa is a gorgeous continent with views that rival anything in North America. Have you ever been to Mt. Kilimanjaro, Victoria Falls, the Saharan Desert, or Sidi Bou Said?

You are dense. Have you ever heard of "boat people" from Slovenia? Doesn't exist. Are those young Slovenians overstaying their visas to work under the table here? Very few if any.

Attacking Slovenia as some sort of turnabout for Trump's statements about Haiti is just weird. Don't you see the irony of it? I guess not.

Slovenia really has no part in this argument, one way or the other. It's a peaceful little place. Leave it be.

Slovenia has rampant unemployment and low wages for those who did manage to find a job.

under 9% unemployment which, by European standards, is not "rampant."

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Doesn’t Trump answer his own question regardless of the truth?

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone please ask Trump during his next presss conference whether Slovenia is a shithole?

Actually, no. It's a picturesque, safe and friendly country. Perfect for retirement, but for young people probably not.

Why don't young people like it there? I see a lot of Slovenians in their late teens-early 20s at our beach town every summer, working at the grocery stores, tourist shops, hotel pools, etc. Our neighborhood pool also hires them as lifeguards until the neighborhood college kids get home for the summer. Apparently there's a huge market for them to come to America and quite a few are interested in staying permanently if they can figure out a way to do so (i.e., fall in love quickly and marry an American citizen).

Frenzied person attacking Slovenia, why exactly? Because of Melania, clearly.

Why don't you google pictures of Slovenia and you'll learn a little about the place. It's the most wooded/green country in Europe for starters. You'll have to work pretty hard to find a single bad picture.

If it's so great why did Melania leave?

Not enough work for second tier “models” who can only get work in porn shoots.

And she worked here illegally. Why do we need to import more models into this country on H1Bs? Do we not have enough skinny women looking to take off their clothes for money in this country? I've read about how American models don't have enough money to live on so they use "dates" to buy them dinners. If we stopped importing H1B models like Melania maybe these real American models could be paid more and buy their own meals.

Actually many American women are too well fed as children to maintain the size two body needed for fashion modeling. That is why many models come from African, South American, and Eastern European countries.

Similar thing could be said about Americans and being too lazy to work the hard menial labor jobs like picking produce. That's why R farmers like the cheap foreign or illegal immigrant labor. Heck, even Trump thinks you can't find good low skilled labor so he brings in cheap foreign workers from Eastern Europe on H2A visas.

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone please ask Trump during his next presss conference whether Slovenia is a shithole?

Actually, no. It's a picturesque, safe and friendly country. Perfect for retirement, but for young people probably not.

Why don't young people like it there? I see a lot of Slovenians in their late teens-early 20s at our beach town every summer, working at the grocery stores, tourist shops, hotel pools, etc. Our neighborhood pool also hires them as lifeguards until the neighborhood college kids get home for the summer. Apparently there's a huge market for them to come to America and quite a few are interested in staying permanently if they can figure out a way to do so (i.e., fall in love quickly and marry an American citizen).

Frenzied person attacking Slovenia, why exactly? Because of Melania, clearly.

Why don't you google pictures of Slovenia and you'll learn a little about the place. It's the most wooded/green country in Europe for starters. You'll have to work pretty hard to find a single bad picture.

Still doesn't answer the question of why Slovenians are coming to the US to work.

Africa is a gorgeous continent with views that rival anything in North America. Have you ever been to Mt. Kilimanjaro, Victoria Falls, the Saharan Desert, or Sidi Bou Said?

You are dense. Have you ever heard of "boat people" from Slovenia? Doesn't exist. Are those young Slovenians overstaying their visas to work under the table here? Very few if any.

Attacking Slovenia as some sort of turnabout for Trump's statements about Haiti is just weird. Don't you see the irony of it? I guess not.

Slovenia really has no part in this argument, one way or the other. It's a peaceful little place. Leave it be.

No, not really. The president has implied that white immigrants from well-off European countries are more welcome to this country than dark skinned ones from struggling African nations and Haiti.

Basically he is holding up Melania as superior to Emmanual Mensah. I can tell you which one of those two I think our country needs more of.

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Anonymous wrote:These are other human beings, with children. They are escaping a desperate situation.

There are so many people in the U.S. that can't see that and respond with empathy compassion (I'm not saying let them all in - I'm saying AT LEAST view them as humans). If we can't vote Trump out in 2020, we are the shithole country.

NIMB

Empathetic and compassionate U.S. citizens should welcome them in their lily-white affluent neighborhoods, instead of creating more ghettos. You're neighborhood can turn into Little Somalia.

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone please ask Trump during his next presss conference whether Slovenia is a shithole?

Actually, no. It's a picturesque, safe and friendly country. Perfect for retirement, but for young people probably not.

Why don't young people like it there? I see a lot of Slovenians in their late teens-early 20s at our beach town every summer, working at the grocery stores, tourist shops, hotel pools, etc. Our neighborhood pool also hires them as lifeguards until the neighborhood college kids get home for the summer. Apparently there's a huge market for them to come to America and quite a few are interested in staying permanently if they can figure out a way to do so (i.e., fall in love quickly and marry an American citizen).

Beautiful country with shithole economy?
Frenzied person attacking Slovenia, why exactly? Because of Melania, clearly.

Why don't you google pictures of Slovenia and you'll learn a little about the place. It's the most wooded/green country in Europe for starters. You'll have to work pretty hard to find a single bad picture.

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone please ask Trump during his next presss conference whether Slovenia is a shithole?

Actually, no. It's a picturesque, safe and friendly country. Perfect for retirement, but for young people probably not.

Why don't young people like it there? I see a lot of Slovenians in their late teens-early 20s at our beach town every summer, working at the grocery stores, tourist shops, hotel pools, etc. Our neighborhood pool also hires them as lifeguards until the neighborhood college kids get home for the summer. Apparently there's a huge market for them to come to America and quite a few are interested in staying permanently if they can figure out a way to do so (i.e., fall in love quickly and marry an American citizen).

The economy is the shithole

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Anonymous wrote:I’ve never been to Africa or Haiti, but have friends who have lived in both and they conceded that they are challenging places but they also have good things to say about the people they met there. To me, the most offensive thing about Trump’s comments is not that the places themselves are shitholes, but that the people that live there are somehow second class and not deserving of entrance to America. There are some posters on here who similarly seem to think that Haitian and Afraid can immigrants are only good for menial, manual labor jobs. Clearly they don’t know many immigrants from these countries. The ones I know are so grateful for their opportunity, work hard, and co tribute more to our economy than you realize.

On the other hand, while yes, there are fewer jobs building railroads, etc., the service sector is huge and Americans have an aversion to farm labor. So Trump et al. will need to find a way to fill these positions if they cutoff immigration of low-skill workers.

Please tell us the jobs held by the many immigrants you know.

Both of my oncologists. Both shitholers.

You know 2 oncologists, and I employ nearly 200 immigrants from 37 shithole countries. Your oncologists were from the families who turned one if not two countries into shitholes.

Lemme guess. You had an academic scholarship to an Ivy too. We know all about you.