King Abdullah Academy Closing: FCPS Buy for HS?

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Anonymous wrote: I wouldn't mind a second TJ, there is more than enough interest and having one in this part of the County would reduce the commute time for a lot of kids. It isn't going to happen. First, here is a need for a HS to relieve the schools in the Western part of the county. Second, TJ has caused everyone more than enough headaches, they are not going down that path again. And finally, TJ is what it is because of specialized labs and programs that are costly, which I don't see FCPS paying for. T

If there is an aviation program, it will be an academy. Not knowing the full lay out of the KAA campus, I have read that there is the main building and two office buildings. Maybe one of the office buildings is converted into a space for an aviation academy with dedicated classrooms for the program.

I can see some of the School Board being stupid enough to suggest something else for KAA but the majority of the School Board should be able to read the room and realize what buying this building without public discussion and not using it for the Western HS will mean for their political careers.

Another TJ would be very welcomed for a lot of families. I don’t think it would hurt political careers for that to go through. Sure, maybe Dixit loses some votes but not nearly enough to lose that seat, and again, another TJ would be politically popular for most of the county.

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Anonymous wrote: I wouldn't mind a second TJ, there is more than enough interest and having one in this part of the County would reduce the commute time for a lot of kids. It isn't going to happen. First, here is a need for a HS to relieve the schools in the Western part of the county. Second, TJ has caused everyone more than enough headaches, they are not going down that path again. And finally, TJ is what it is because of specialized labs and programs that are costly, which I don't see FCPS paying for. T

If there is an aviation program, it will be an academy. Not knowing the full lay out of the KAA campus, I have read that there is the main building and two office buildings. Maybe one of the office buildings is converted into a space for an aviation academy with dedicated classrooms for the program.

I can see some of the School Board being stupid enough to suggest something else for KAA but the majority of the School Board should be able to read the room and realize what buying this building without public discussion and not using it for the Western HS will mean for their political careers.

Another TJ would be very welcomed for a lot of families. I don’t think it would hurt political careers for that to go through. Sure, maybe Dixit loses some votes but not nearly enough to lose that seat, and again, another TJ would be politically popular for most of the county.

Gee. I wonder what neighborhood this poster lives in?

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Anonymous wrote: I wouldn't mind a second TJ, there is more than enough interest and having one in this part of the County would reduce the commute time for a lot of kids. It isn't going to happen. First, here is a need for a HS to relieve the schools in the Western part of the county. Second, TJ has caused everyone more than enough headaches, they are not going down that path again. And finally, TJ is what it is because of specialized labs and programs that are costly, which I don't see FCPS paying for. T

If there is an aviation program, it will be an academy. Not knowing the full lay out of the KAA campus, I have read that there is the main building and two office buildings. Maybe one of the office buildings is converted into a space for an aviation academy with dedicated classrooms for the program.

I can see some of the School Board being stupid enough to suggest something else for KAA but the majority of the School Board should be able to read the room and realize what buying this building without public discussion and not using it for the Western HS will mean for their political careers.

Another TJ would be very welcomed for a lot of families. I don’t think it would hurt political careers for that to go through. Sure, maybe Dixit loses some votes but not nearly enough to lose that seat, and again, another TJ would be politically popular for most of the county.

Gee. I wonder what neighborhood this poster lives in?

I live in Fox Mill and think a TJ2 is needed for the County. I don't think it belongs at KAA but I can see a decent number of parents who have kids at Carson who would welcome a STEM school in the area. Carson has well over 200 kids a year apply for TJ and around 50 a year attending TJ. Having a STEM academy that didn't require a long commute wouldn't be awful. It is not what is needed at the KAA location but I can see where a decent number of parents in the Western area would be supportive of a STEM school in the area. There will be some who would hate the idea because they want TJ for prestige purposes and would be disappointed if their kid went to TJ 2 but I think plenty of families would be interested.

Just to be clear, I don't see KAA as the building for that. I think KAA needs to be the new Western High School. I do hope that Fox Mill moves there because I don't like IB and would love to not need to pupil place for an AP program. The families who like IB have SLHS nearby and there will be room for the kids in the IB program.

[Anonymous]

The money set aside in the CIP has always been for a western HS to relieve capacity issues in this part of the county so they don't have to keep rezoning kids over and over every decade. Opening a magnet school instead where they couldn't assign specific feeder schools for that capacity relief would be a non-starter.

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Anonymous wrote:Carson has over 17% FARMS. However, it is also over 50% AAP. So, I am guessing that it would be well above 20% FARMS.

Right now, Carson has Coates, McNair, Floris, Fox Mill, Crossfield plus AAP Oak Hill, AAP Lees Corner, and AAP Navy. So that is why it skews lower than 20.
I find it doubtful that Crossfield, Fox Mill, and Oak Hill will all be in the new school. My guess is two of them.

Of the three, I think Oak Hill is for sure in because it’s solves the capacity issue at Chantilly and also is closest to KAA.

Not sure what happens between Crossfield and Fox Mill.

What happens is that many Fox Mill families want to go to the new school and little crossfield families want to move. I'd say TOO MANY Fox Mill people (deep in SLHS territory) want to move to the new HS that they think the only way is to advocating Crossfield backfilling them in SLHS. Thanks for the laugh.

FCPS is going to make the adjustment least disruptive possible. They'll move the far western portion of SLHS and Oakton HS into the new high school, that's it. No oakton to SLHS move, no Langley to Herndon HS move. Why stir up a hornet's nest?

If Crossfield resists a move to KAA that might actually give them the cleanest solution for aligning middle schools. Send Oak Hill to Carson and Crossfield to Franklin (send anyone at Franklin from Westfield to Stone.) Then Carson feeds entirely to KAA and Franklin only splits between Chantilly and Oakton. There isn’t enough room at Hughes to take all of Fox Mill, even if they send Herndon AAP students to another center. Carson also continues the Fox Mill Japanese immersion program, which makes them slightly more difficult to decouple.

From what I've heard from the families I. know in Franklin Farm - they all want to move to the new high school. The people on the horse farms are the ones who want to stay at Oakton, and FMW wants to stay at South Lakes. Who knows....

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Anonymous wrote: I wouldn't mind a second TJ, there is more than enough interest and having one in this part of the County would reduce the commute time for a lot of kids. It isn't going to happen. First, here is a need for a HS to relieve the schools in the Western part of the county. Second, TJ has caused everyone more than enough headaches, they are not going down that path again. And finally, TJ is what it is because of specialized labs and programs that are costly, which I don't see FCPS paying for. T

If there is an aviation program, it will be an academy. Not knowing the full lay out of the KAA campus, I have read that there is the main building and two office buildings. Maybe one of the office buildings is converted into a space for an aviation academy with dedicated classrooms for the program.

I can see some of the School Board being stupid enough to suggest something else for KAA but the majority of the School Board should be able to read the room and realize what buying this building without public discussion and not using it for the Western HS will mean for their political careers.

Another TJ would be very welcomed for a lot of families. I don’t think it would hurt political careers for that to go through. Sure, maybe Dixit loses some votes but not nearly enough to lose that seat, and again, another TJ would be politically popular for most of the county.

Gee. I wonder what neighborhood this poster lives in?

I live in Fox Mill and think a TJ2 is needed for the County. I don't think it belongs at KAA but I can see a decent number of parents who have kids at Carson who would welcome a STEM school in the area. Carson has well over 200 kids a year apply for TJ and around 50 a year attending TJ. Having a STEM academy that didn't require a long commute wouldn't be awful. It is not what is needed at the KAA location but I can see where a decent number of parents in the Western area would be supportive of a STEM school in the area. There will be some who would hate the idea because they want TJ for prestige purposes and would be disappointed if their kid went to TJ 2 but I think plenty of families would be interested.

Just to be clear, I don't see KAA as the building for that. I think KAA needs to be the new Western High School. I do hope that Fox Mill moves there because I don't like IB and would love to not need to pupil place for an AP program. The families who like IB have SLHS nearby and there will be room for the kids in the IB program.

Best to keep Fox Mill at South Lakes. You can always pupil place.

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Anonymous wrote: I wouldn't mind a second TJ, there is more than enough interest and having one in this part of the County would reduce the commute time for a lot of kids. It isn't going to happen. First, here is a need for a HS to relieve the schools in the Western part of the county. Second, TJ has caused everyone more than enough headaches, they are not going down that path again. And finally, TJ is what it is because of specialized labs and programs that are costly, which I don't see FCPS paying for. T

If there is an aviation program, it will be an academy. Not knowing the full lay out of the KAA campus, I have read that there is the main building and two office buildings. Maybe one of the office buildings is converted into a space for an aviation academy with dedicated classrooms for the program.

I can see some of the School Board being stupid enough to suggest something else for KAA but the majority of the School Board should be able to read the room and realize what buying this building without public discussion and not using it for the Western HS will mean for their political careers.

Another TJ would be very welcomed for a lot of families. I don’t think it would hurt political careers for that to go through. Sure, maybe Dixit loses some votes but not nearly enough to lose that seat, and again, another TJ would be politically popular for most of the county.

Gee. I wonder what neighborhood this poster lives in?

I live in Fox Mill and think a TJ2 is needed for the County. I don't think it belongs at KAA but I can see a decent number of parents who have kids at Carson who would welcome a STEM school in the area. Carson has well over 200 kids a year apply for TJ and around 50 a year attending TJ. Having a STEM academy that didn't require a long commute wouldn't be awful. It is not what is needed at the KAA location but I can see where a decent number of parents in the Western area would be supportive of a STEM school in the area. There will be some who would hate the idea because they want TJ for prestige purposes and would be disappointed if their kid went to TJ 2 but I think plenty of families would be interested.

Just to be clear, I don't see KAA as the building for that. I think KAA needs to be the new Western High School. I do hope that Fox Mill moves there because I don't like IB and would love to not need to pupil place for an AP program. The families who like IB have SLHS nearby and there will be room for the kids in the IB program.

+1. We are zoned rocky run/chantilly and would welcome a TJ 2 option nearby. We aren't interested at all in TJ1 due to the distance/long bus route.

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Anonymous wrote: I wouldn't mind a second TJ, there is more than enough interest and having one in this part of the County would reduce the commute time for a lot of kids. It isn't going to happen. First, here is a need for a HS to relieve the schools in the Western part of the county. Second, TJ has caused everyone more than enough headaches, they are not going down that path again. And finally, TJ is what it is because of specialized labs and programs that are costly, which I don't see FCPS paying for. T

If there is an aviation program, it will be an academy. Not knowing the full lay out of the KAA campus, I have read that there is the main building and two office buildings. Maybe one of the office buildings is converted into a space for an aviation academy with dedicated classrooms for the program.

I can see some of the School Board being stupid enough to suggest something else for KAA but the majority of the School Board should be able to read the room and realize what buying this building without public discussion and not using it for the Western HS will mean for their political careers.

Are you okay with the current enrollment at Chantilly? Does your neighborhood run the risk of being redistricted like several current Chantilly High neighborhoods?

Another TJ would be very welcomed for a lot of families. I don’t think it would hurt political careers for that to go through. Sure, maybe Dixit loses some votes but not nearly enough to lose that seat, and again, another TJ would be politically popular for most of the county.

Gee. I wonder what neighborhood this poster lives in?

I live in Fox Mill and think a TJ2 is needed for the County. I don't think it belongs at KAA but I can see a decent number of parents who have kids at Carson who would welcome a STEM school in the area. Carson has well over 200 kids a year apply for TJ and around 50 a year attending TJ. Having a STEM academy that didn't require a long commute wouldn't be awful. It is not what is needed at the KAA location but I can see where a decent number of parents in the Western area would be supportive of a STEM school in the area. There will be some who would hate the idea because they want TJ for prestige purposes and would be disappointed if their kid went to TJ 2 but I think plenty of families would be interested.

Just to be clear, I don't see KAA as the building for that. I think KAA needs to be the new Western High School. I do hope that Fox Mill moves there because I don't like IB and would love to not need to pupil place for an AP program. The families who like IB have SLHS nearby and there will be room for the kids in the IB program.

+1. We are zoned rocky run/chantilly and would welcome a TJ 2 option nearby. We aren't interested at all in TJ1 due to the distance/long bus route.

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Anonymous wrote: I wouldn't mind a second TJ, there is more than enough interest and having one in this part of the County would reduce the commute time for a lot of kids. It isn't going to happen. First, here is a need for a HS to relieve the schools in the Western part of the county. Second, TJ has caused everyone more than enough headaches, they are not going down that path again. And finally, TJ is what it is because of specialized labs and programs that are costly, which I don't see FCPS paying for. T

If there is an aviation program, it will be an academy. Not knowing the full lay out of the KAA campus, I have read that there is the main building and two office buildings. Maybe one of the office buildings is converted into a space for an aviation academy with dedicated classrooms for the program.

I can see some of the School Board being stupid enough to suggest something else for KAA but the majority of the School Board should be able to read the room and realize what buying this building without public discussion and not using it for the Western HS will mean for their political careers.

Are you okay with the current enrollment at Chantilly? Does your neighborhood run the risk of being redistricted like several current Chantilly High neighborhoods?

Another TJ would be very welcomed for a lot of families. I don’t think it would hurt political careers for that to go through. Sure, maybe Dixit loses some votes but not nearly enough to lose that seat, and again, another TJ would be politically popular for most of the county.

Gee. I wonder what neighborhood this poster lives in?

I live in Fox Mill and think a TJ2 is needed for the County. I don't think it belongs at KAA but I can see a decent number of parents who have kids at Carson who would welcome a STEM school in the area. Carson has well over 200 kids a year apply for TJ and around 50 a year attending TJ. Having a STEM academy that didn't require a long commute wouldn't be awful. It is not what is needed at the KAA location but I can see where a decent number of parents in the Western area would be supportive of a STEM school in the area. There will be some who would hate the idea because they want TJ for prestige purposes and would be disappointed if their kid went to TJ 2 but I think plenty of families would be interested.

Just to be clear, I don't see KAA as the building for that. I think KAA needs to be the new Western High School. I do hope that Fox Mill moves there because I don't like IB and would love to not need to pupil place for an AP program. The families who like IB have SLHS nearby and there will be room for the kids in the IB program.

+1. We are zoned rocky run/chantilly and would welcome a TJ 2 option nearby. We aren't interested at all in TJ1 due to the distance/long bus route.

Are you okay with the current enrollment at Chantilly? Does your neighborhood run the risk of being redistricted like several current Chantilly High neighborhoods?

[Anonymous]

Someone mentioned that it would be bad optics for the new high school to only have middle to high income feeder schools. Seems like it could also be bad optics for the new school to be a magnet school. Like only the smart kids deserve a beautiful new building with amazing facilities. I could see the school board wanting to make it a regular high school with a very careful balance of feeder schools so that it is neither too high or too low in FARMS percentage.

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Anonymous wrote: I wouldn't mind a second TJ, there is more than enough interest and having one in this part of the County would reduce the commute time for a lot of kids. It isn't going to happen. First, here is a need for a HS to relieve the schools in the Western part of the county. Second, TJ has caused everyone more than enough headaches, they are not going down that path again. And finally, TJ is what it is because of specialized labs and programs that are costly, which I don't see FCPS paying for. T

If there is an aviation program, it will be an academy. Not knowing the full lay out of the KAA campus, I have read that there is the main building and two office buildings. Maybe one of the office buildings is converted into a space for an aviation academy with dedicated classrooms for the program.

I can see some of the School Board being stupid enough to suggest something else for KAA but the majority of the School Board should be able to read the room and realize what buying this building without public discussion and not using it for the Western HS will mean for their political careers.

Another TJ would be very welcomed for a lot of families. I don’t think it would hurt political careers for that to go through. Sure, maybe Dixit loses some votes but not nearly enough to lose that seat, and again, another TJ would be politically popular for most of the county.

Gee. I wonder what neighborhood this poster lives in?

I live in Fox Mill and think a TJ2 is needed for the County. I don't think it belongs at KAA but I can see a decent number of parents who have kids at Carson who would welcome a STEM school in the area. Carson has well over 200 kids a year apply for TJ and around 50 a year attending TJ. Having a STEM academy that didn't require a long commute wouldn't be awful. It is not what is needed at the KAA location but I can see where a decent number of parents in the Western area would be supportive of a STEM school in the area. There will be some who would hate the idea because they want TJ for prestige purposes and would be disappointed if their kid went to TJ 2 but I think plenty of families would be interested.

Just to be clear, I don't see KAA as the building for that. I think KAA needs to be the new Western High School. I do hope that Fox Mill moves there because I don't like IB and would love to not need to pupil place for an AP program. The families who like IB have SLHS nearby and there will be room for the kids in the IB program.

Best to keep Fox Mill at South Lakes. You can always pupil place.

That's not for you to decide.

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Anonymous wrote: I wouldn't mind a second TJ, there is more than enough interest and having one in this part of the County would reduce the commute time for a lot of kids. It isn't going to happen. First, here is a need for a HS to relieve the schools in the Western part of the county. Second, TJ has caused everyone more than enough headaches, they are not going down that path again. And finally, TJ is what it is because of specialized labs and programs that are costly, which I don't see FCPS paying for. T

If there is an aviation program, it will be an academy. Not knowing the full lay out of the KAA campus, I have read that there is the main building and two office buildings. Maybe one of the office buildings is converted into a space for an aviation academy with dedicated classrooms for the program.

I can see some of the School Board being stupid enough to suggest something else for KAA but the majority of the School Board should be able to read the room and realize what buying this building without public discussion and not using it for the Western HS will mean for their political careers.

Another TJ would be very welcomed for a lot of families. I don’t think it would hurt political careers for that to go through. Sure, maybe Dixit loses some votes but not nearly enough to lose that seat, and again, another TJ would be politically popular for most of the county.

Gee. I wonder what neighborhood this poster lives in?

I live in Fox Mill and think a TJ2 is needed for the County. I don't think it belongs at KAA but I can see a decent number of parents who have kids at Carson who would welcome a STEM school in the area. Carson has well over 200 kids a year apply for TJ and around 50 a year attending TJ. Having a STEM academy that didn't require a long commute wouldn't be awful. It is not what is needed at the KAA location but I can see where a decent number of parents in the Western area would be supportive of a STEM school in the area. There will be some who would hate the idea because they want TJ for prestige purposes and would be disappointed if their kid went to TJ 2 but I think plenty of families would be interested.

Just to be clear, I don't see KAA as the building for that. I think KAA needs to be the new Western High School. I do hope that Fox Mill moves there because I don't like IB and would love to not need to pupil place for an AP program. The families who like IB have SLHS nearby and there will be room for the kids in the IB program.

Best to keep Fox Mill at South Lakes. You can always pupil place.

That's not for you to decide.

No. It is for Melanie Meren to decide.

[Anonymous]

For sure, another magnet school would be nice, but I don’t think it’s as urgent as a new high school.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote: I wouldn't mind a second TJ, there is more than enough interest and having one in this part of the County would reduce the commute time for a lot of kids. It isn't going to happen. First, here is a need for a HS to relieve the schools in the Western part of the county. Second, TJ has caused everyone more than enough headaches, they are not going down that path again. And finally, TJ is what it is because of specialized labs and programs that are costly, which I don't see FCPS paying for. T

If there is an aviation program, it will be an academy. Not knowing the full lay out of the KAA campus, I have read that there is the main building and two office buildings. Maybe one of the office buildings is converted into a space for an aviation academy with dedicated classrooms for the program.

I can see some of the School Board being stupid enough to suggest something else for KAA but the majority of the School Board should be able to read the room and realize what buying this building without public discussion and not using it for the Western HS will mean for their political careers.

Are you okay with the current enrollment at Chantilly? Does your neighborhood run the risk of being redistricted like several current Chantilly High neighborhoods?

Another TJ would be very welcomed for a lot of families. I don’t think it would hurt political careers for that to go through. Sure, maybe Dixit loses some votes but not nearly enough to lose that seat, and again, another TJ would be politically popular for most of the county.

Gee. I wonder what neighborhood this poster lives in?

I live in Fox Mill and think a TJ2 is needed for the County. I don't think it belongs at KAA but I can see a decent number of parents who have kids at Carson who would welcome a STEM school in the area. Carson has well over 200 kids a year apply for TJ and around 50 a year attending TJ. Having a STEM academy that didn't require a long commute wouldn't be awful. It is not what is needed at the KAA location but I can see where a decent number of parents in the Western area would be supportive of a STEM school in the area. There will be some who would hate the idea because they want TJ for prestige purposes and would be disappointed if their kid went to TJ 2 but I think plenty of families would be interested.

Just to be clear, I don't see KAA as the building for that. I think KAA needs to be the new Western High School. I do hope that Fox Mill moves there because I don't like IB and would love to not need to pupil place for an AP program. The families who like IB have SLHS nearby and there will be room for the kids in the IB program.

+1. We are zoned rocky run/chantilly and would welcome a TJ 2 option nearby. We aren't interested at all in TJ1 due to the distance/long bus route.

Are you okay with the current enrollment at Chantilly? Does your neighborhood run the risk of being redistricted like several current Chantilly High neighborhoods?

We are south of 50, no risk of redistricting. My kids are ES age so my opinion on the school's enrollment is not well informed as I dont have all the nuanced details. I tend to think lower enrollment would be net positive. At the same time, enrollment could be lowered by opening a TJ2 in the western area. I'm sure there's many more families in the area who would be interested in such a thing but TJ1 is too far.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:^ This is one of the original articles from a week ago. No new info here.

I doubt we’ll hear any new information until the sale is finalized in August.