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Anonymous wrote:So anyway, over under on how many centreville and Chantilly kids get moved to Westfield?

Isn't Chantilly considered a "neighborhood school?" So many families in the Greenbrier, Brookfield and Poplar Tree neighborhoods that are all walkers to the school. Would they really move kids who walk to school now miles away and have to move them by bus?

The school board is looking to alleviate overcrowding, and there is a real issue at centreville and chantilly. Sure it might be fixed six or seven years in the future, assuming the taxpayers approve a massive expansion, but that over browsing is an issue today. If they are serious about addressing under capacity or over capacity issues, they must do something at these two schools.

Where are you zoned? Some of the biggest advocates for “doing something” for Chantilly live elsewhere and have their own motives. They are fervently trying to game potential boundary changes so other kids get moved and their kids stay at their current schools.

If you are personally looking to move from Chantilly to Westfield, please let us know.

Misdirection. They just passed Policy 8130 and overcrowding is one of the big four factors.

Your whataboutism goes against the policy that they just passed this summer. I didn’t write the policy, the school board did. Talk to them.

You didn’t answer the question. Where are YOU zoned?

Crickets, of course.

They push boundary changes that affect other people’s kids with the hope their own boundaries will be untouched.

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Anonymous wrote:So anyway, over under on how many centreville and Chantilly kids get moved to Westfield?

Isn't Chantilly considered a "neighborhood school?" So many families in the Greenbrier, Brookfield and Poplar Tree neighborhoods that are all walkers to the school. Would they really move kids who walk to school now miles away and have to move them by bus?

The school board is looking to alleviate overcrowding, and there is a real issue at centreville and chantilly. Sure it might be fixed six or seven years in the future, assuming the taxpayers approve a massive expansion, but that over browsing is an issue today. If they are serious about addressing under capacity or over capacity issues, they must do something at these two schools.

Where are you zoned? Some of the biggest advocates for “doing something” for Chantilly live elsewhere and have their own motives. They are fervently trying to game potential boundary changes so other kids get moved and their kids stay at their current schools.

If you are personally looking to move from Chantilly to Westfield, please let us know.

Misdirection. They just passed Policy 8130 and overcrowding is one of the big four factors.

Your whataboutism goes against the policy that they just passed this summer. I didn’t write the policy, the school board did. Talk to them.

You didn’t answer the question. Where are YOU zoned?

Crickets, of course.

They push boundary changes that affect other people’s kids with the hope their own boundaries will be untouched.

Immaterial. Centreville is overcapacity. Chantilly is too. That is a fact.

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With Reid allowing the fiasco at Hayfield with the football team, how does she expect any of us to take these boundary changes seriously? We can say our kids are homeless and send them to any high school we want or use an address within a boundary or get an apartment within a boundary while are kids actually just live at home.

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Anonymous wrote:So anyway, over under on how many centreville and Chantilly kids get moved to Westfield?

Isn't Chantilly considered a "neighborhood school?" So many families in the Greenbrier, Brookfield and Poplar Tree neighborhoods that are all walkers to the school. Would they really move kids who walk to school now miles away and have to move them by bus?

The school board is looking to alleviate overcrowding, and there is a real issue at centreville and chantilly. Sure it might be fixed six or seven years in the future, assuming the taxpayers approve a massive expansion, but that over browsing is an issue today. If they are serious about addressing under capacity or over capacity issues, they must do something at these two schools.

Where are you zoned? Some of the biggest advocates for “doing something” for Chantilly live elsewhere and have their own motives. They are fervently trying to game potential boundary changes so other kids get moved and their kids stay at their current schools.

If you are personally looking to move from Chantilly to Westfield, please let us know.

Misdirection. They just passed Policy 8130 and overcrowding is one of the big four factors.

Your whataboutism goes against the policy that they just passed this summer. I didn’t write the policy, the school board did. Talk to them.

You didn’t answer the question. Where are YOU zoned?

Crickets, of course.

They push boundary changes that affect other people’s kids with the hope their own boundaries will be untouched.

Immaterial. Centreville is overcapacity. Chantilly is too. That is a fact.

Quite material.

Where are your kids zoned?

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Anonymous wrote:So anyway, over under on how many centreville and Chantilly kids get moved to Westfield?

Isn't Chantilly considered a "neighborhood school?" So many families in the Greenbrier, Brookfield and Poplar Tree neighborhoods that are all walkers to the school. Would they really move kids who walk to school now miles away and have to move them by bus?

The school board is looking to alleviate overcrowding, and there is a real issue at centreville and chantilly. Sure it might be fixed six or seven years in the future, assuming the taxpayers approve a massive expansion, but that over browsing is an issue today. If they are serious about addressing under capacity or over capacity issues, they must do something at these two schools.

Where are you zoned? Some of the biggest advocates for “doing something” for Chantilly live elsewhere and have their own motives. They are fervently trying to game potential boundary changes so other kids get moved and their kids stay at their current schools.

If you are personally looking to move from Chantilly to Westfield, please let us know.

Misdirection. They just passed Policy 8130 and overcrowding is one of the big four factors.

Your whataboutism goes against the policy that they just passed this summer. I didn’t write the policy, the school board did. Talk to them.

You didn’t answer the question. Where are YOU zoned?

Crickets, of course.

They push boundary changes that affect other people’s kids with the hope their own boundaries will be untouched.

Immaterial. Centreville is overcapacity. Chantilly is too. That is a fact.

Quite material.

Where are your kids zoned?

The board makes the decisions. They’ve decided that overcrowded schools will be moved.

If you don’t like it, talk to your reps.

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Anonymous wrote:So anyway, over under on how many centreville and Chantilly kids get moved to Westfield?

Isn't Chantilly considered a "neighborhood school?" So many families in the Greenbrier, Brookfield and Poplar Tree neighborhoods that are all walkers to the school. Would they really move kids who walk to school now miles away and have to move them by bus?

The school board is looking to alleviate overcrowding, and there is a real issue at centreville and chantilly. Sure it might be fixed six or seven years in the future, assuming the taxpayers approve a massive expansion, but that over browsing is an issue today. If they are serious about addressing under capacity or over capacity issues, they must do something at these two schools.

Where are you zoned? Some of the biggest advocates for “doing something” for Chantilly live elsewhere and have their own motives. They are fervently trying to game potential boundary changes so other kids get moved and their kids stay at their current schools.

If you are personally looking to move from Chantilly to Westfield, please let us know.

Misdirection. They just passed Policy 8130 and overcrowding is one of the big four factors.

Your whataboutism goes against the policy that they just passed this summer. I didn’t write the policy, the school board did. Talk to them.

You didn’t answer the question. Where are YOU zoned?

Crickets, of course.

They push boundary changes that affect other people’s kids with the hope their own boundaries will be untouched.

Immaterial. Centreville is overcapacity. Chantilly is too. That is a fact.

Quite material.

Where are your kids zoned?

The board makes the decisions. They’ve decided that overcrowded schools will be moved.

If you don’t like it, talk to your reps.

Of course the School Board makes the decisions, dimwit.

Now tell us where you’re zoned so we can assess why you have such an interest in kids getting moved out of Centreville and Chantilly.

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Anonymous wrote:Wake up babe, new Mateo Dunne email just dropped. Not going to copy the whole thing here because it’s quite long, but specific situations are called out by name in the Mount Vernon district including the Whitman/Sandburg situation and the Halley attendance island. https://www.fcps.edu/aggregator/sources/19?utm_campaign+=&utm_medium=email&utm_source=govdelivery#

This is what I found interesting:

"Over 100 students who live within walking distance of Mount Vernon Woods ES are assigned to attend Fort Hunt ES. They ride the bus every day past multiple elementary schools to arrive at Fort Hunt ES."

Removing those kids from Fort Hunt eliminates all of their FARMS students and sends them to a high FARMS school, so I don't see that happening.

I don't see how Whitman/Sandburg is solvable without creating more problems. If you give Sandburg to MVSH and Whitman to WPHS, the the walkable neighborhoods to Sandburg (in the Stratford Landing Boundary, across the street from Waynewood, both separated from MVHS by Ft Hunt) then you move more kids to MVHS than MVHS has capacity for. Moving Hollin Meadows to MVHS so Whitman is in the boundary Creates another island unless you move Stratford Landing as well, but then Sandburg outside of its boundaries

The only way to solve the Whitman/Sandburg issue is to build a new school building within the Mount Vernon boundaries. If you swap the schools, Sandburg will still be 100% bused for all the MVHS pyramid students. The building is too far of a walk for anyone who lives within the MVHS boundaries. When my kids were at Whitman, there was definitely a "disconnect" to the school and I think alot of it has to do with its location.

Whitman is where it is located because of a financial decision when Groveton HS and Fort Hunt HS merged to create West Potomac HS. The corresponding middle schools were merged and you had an empty school building. FCPS decided to move Whitman instead of renovate the building it was in (the original Mount Vernon HS on Rt. 1) and rent out the old building. That building is now owned by Fairfax County Government and NOT FCPS. I think that may have happened when Whitman moved back in the 1980s. Personally, I'd love to see Whitman move back to the original MVHS building but that's not going to happen.
https://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/publicworks/capital-projects/original-mount-vernon-high-school

One way to potentially fix Whitman/Sandburg is to turn MVHS into a secondary school and have both middle schools feed to West Potomac. That would fill MVHS empty seats and keep all their schools in bounds. It would also open up space at Whitman/Sandburg to fulfill Reid’s dream of more 6-8 middle schools.

This would create a less disruptive path to open seats. West Potomac could pick up Mount Eagle and/or Cameron from Edison. Annandale could pick up Bren Mar Park, which is already a part of its pyramid. And then should Lewis close, it could be split between South County and Edison, with Key and Twain feeding to Edison as Reid’s beloved 6-8 feeders.

I really don’t see much appetite for new secondary schools. They were kind of a 60s-70s thing. When South County later opened, originally as a secondary school, it was with the explicit understanding that a new middle school would eventually get built and, when that happened, South County became a high school.

Nor does anyone seem to be very keen on more 6-8 middle schools. Reid seems to talk about it mostly to placate Ricardy Anderson, who is miffed that the middle schools in her district (Mason) are 6-8 outliers. She’d be happier if other schools followed the same model because misery loves company (she has also been pushing for years to shrink the enrollment of 6-8 Glasgow).

I don't think the 6-8 talk is so much to placate Ricardy Anderson as it is to try and free up more room at the Elementary Schools to enable Universal Pre-K.

Where will we get universal prek funding once we get vouchers and all the umc and mc families flee the sinking ship?

Most of FCPS is upper middle class or wealthy. There is no need for universal PreK in this district.

FCPS is 34% FARMS. By your logic that means less than 16% of FCPS students are from LMC or MC families combined, with >50% UMC or wealthy.

Tell me you're out of touch without telling me you're out of touch.

If only 34% of FCPS is FARMS, then yes, most of FCPS is upper middle class (feds, military, contractors, etc) or wealthy.

I love how you just completely ignore where the majority of population actually exists: above the FARMS cutoffs, but below UMC. Thank you for continuing to make my point.

Continuing to make your point: most every single income military, fed, contractor family is below UMC.

Nope, even a GS-13 can make $150K at the higher steps. That's UMC.

A family of 4 in FFX county making $150K hardly sounds UMC to me. This article suggests a family of 4 in VA needs to make $235K to "live comfortably". I'd wager that's actually a bit higher in FFX specifically. If your definition of UMC isn't one that allows a family to "live comfortably", then I think you have a skewed definition of UMC.

That is total bullshit. Maybe your level of "comfort" includes a $1.5M Modern Farmhouse, private school, and two big vacations every year, but mine doesn't. We live more than comfortably on a $190K salary in Fairfax County.

Modern farmhouses are running closer to 2-4 million now, and you aren't affording that + private school + vacations...even on dual military or GS 15 salaries. And yes, lots of people do like to take vacations with their families and not just have SACC and babysitters care for their kids.

You sound really out of touch. I know plenty of people who are a one GS family that live in a nice house (not a "modern farmhouse", LOL) and take nice vacations. These families are middle to upper middle class families. I think what you and a lot of DCUM posters view as "upper middle class" isn't actually upper middle class, it's flat out wealthy.

We make $200K, live in a 4000sq ft million dollar house, and want for nothing. We have no delusions that we are not wealthy. We know we are.

This math ain't mathin.

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Anonymous wrote:So anyway, over under on how many centreville and Chantilly kids get moved to Westfield?

Isn't Chantilly considered a "neighborhood school?" So many families in the Greenbrier, Brookfield and Poplar Tree neighborhoods that are all walkers to the school. Would they really move kids who walk to school now miles away and have to move them by bus?

The school board is looking to alleviate overcrowding, and there is a real issue at centreville and chantilly. Sure it might be fixed six or seven years in the future, assuming the taxpayers approve a massive expansion, but that over browsing is an issue today. If they are serious about addressing under capacity or over capacity issues, they must do something at these two schools.

Where are you zoned? Some of the biggest advocates for “doing something” for Chantilly live elsewhere and have their own motives. They are fervently trying to game potential boundary changes so other kids get moved and their kids stay at their current schools.

If you are personally looking to move from Chantilly to Westfield, please let us know.

Misdirection. They just passed Policy 8130 and overcrowding is one of the big four factors.

Your whataboutism goes against the policy that they just passed this summer. I didn’t write the policy, the school board did. Talk to them.

You didn’t answer the question. Where are YOU zoned?

Crickets, of course.

They push boundary changes that affect other people’s kids with the hope their own boundaries will be untouched.

Immaterial. Centreville is overcapacity. Chantilly is too. That is a fact.

Quite material.

Where are your kids zoned?

The board makes the decisions. They’ve decided that overcrowded schools will be moved.

If you don’t like it, talk to your reps.

Of course the School Board makes the decisions, dimwit.

Now tell us where you’re zoned so we can assess why you have such an interest in kids getting moved out of Centreville and Chantilly.

You first, madam.

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Anonymous wrote:So anyway, over under on how many centreville and Chantilly kids get moved to Westfield?

Isn't Chantilly considered a "neighborhood school?" So many families in the Greenbrier, Brookfield and Poplar Tree neighborhoods that are all walkers to the school. Would they really move kids who walk to school now miles away and have to move them by bus?

The school board is looking to alleviate overcrowding, and there is a real issue at centreville and chantilly. Sure it might be fixed six or seven years in the future, assuming the taxpayers approve a massive expansion, but that over browsing is an issue today. If they are serious about addressing under capacity or over capacity issues, they must do something at these two schools.

Where are you zoned? Some of the biggest advocates for “doing something” for Chantilly live elsewhere and have their own motives. They are fervently trying to game potential boundary changes so other kids get moved and their kids stay at their current schools.

If you are personally looking to move from Chantilly to Westfield, please let us know.

Misdirection. They just passed Policy 8130 and overcrowding is one of the big four factors.

Your whataboutism goes against the policy that they just passed this summer. I didn’t write the policy, the school board did. Talk to them.

You didn’t answer the question. Where are YOU zoned?

Crickets, of course.

They push boundary changes that affect other people’s kids with the hope their own boundaries will be untouched.

Immaterial. Centreville is overcapacity. Chantilly is too. That is a fact.

Quite material.

Where are your kids zoned?

The board makes the decisions. They’ve decided that overcrowded schools will be moved.

If you don’t like it, talk to your reps.

Of course the School Board makes the decisions, dimwit.

Now tell us where you’re zoned so we can assess why you have such an interest in kids getting moved out of Centreville and Chantilly.

You first, madam.

You’re the one so interested in moving kids out of those two schools. Tell us where you’re zoned.

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I was in the middle of responding to a comment and it got deleted....admins?

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Anonymous wrote:So anyway, over under on how many centreville and Chantilly kids get moved to Westfield?

Isn't Chantilly considered a "neighborhood school?" So many families in the Greenbrier, Brookfield and Poplar Tree neighborhoods that are all walkers to the school. Would they really move kids who walk to school now miles away and have to move them by bus?

The school board is looking to alleviate overcrowding, and there is a real issue at centreville and chantilly. Sure it might be fixed six or seven years in the future, assuming the taxpayers approve a massive expansion, but that over browsing is an issue today. If they are serious about addressing under capacity or over capacity issues, they must do something at these two schools.

Where are you zoned? Some of the biggest advocates for “doing something” for Chantilly live elsewhere and have their own motives. They are fervently trying to game potential boundary changes so other kids get moved and their kids stay at their current schools.

If you are personally looking to move from Chantilly to Westfield, please let us know.

Misdirection. They just passed Policy 8130 and overcrowding is one of the big four factors.

Your whataboutism goes against the policy that they just passed this summer. I didn’t write the policy, the school board did. Talk to them.

You didn’t answer the question. Where are YOU zoned?

Crickets, of course.

They push boundary changes that affect other people’s kids with the hope their own boundaries will be untouched.

Immaterial. Centreville is overcapacity. Chantilly is too. That is a fact.

Quite material.

Where are your kids zoned?

The board makes the decisions. They’ve decided that overcrowded schools will be moved.

If you don’t like it, talk to your reps.

Of course the School Board makes the decisions, dimwit.

Now tell us where you’re zoned so we can assess why you have such an interest in kids getting moved out of Centreville and Chantilly.

You first, madam.

You’re the one so interested in moving kids out of those two schools. Tell us where you’re zoned.

Why are you so mad at me? I’m just conveying to you that centreville and chantilly are grossly overcapacity, and the fix is more than five years away.

Take it up with the school board.

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Anonymous wrote:So anyway, over under on how many centreville and Chantilly kids get moved to Westfield?

Isn't Chantilly considered a "neighborhood school?" So many families in the Greenbrier, Brookfield and Poplar Tree neighborhoods that are all walkers to the school. Would they really move kids who walk to school now miles away and have to move them by bus?

The school board is looking to alleviate overcrowding, and there is a real issue at centreville and chantilly. Sure it might be fixed six or seven years in the future, assuming the taxpayers approve a massive expansion, but that over browsing is an issue today. If they are serious about addressing under capacity or over capacity issues, they must do something at these two schools.

Where are you zoned? Some of the biggest advocates for “doing something” for Chantilly live elsewhere and have their own motives. They are fervently trying to game potential boundary changes so other kids get moved and their kids stay at their current schools.

If you are personally looking to move from Chantilly to Westfield, please let us know.

Misdirection. They just passed Policy 8130 and overcrowding is one of the big four factors.

Your whataboutism goes against the policy that they just passed this summer. I didn’t write the policy, the school board did. Talk to them.

You didn’t answer the question. Where are YOU zoned?

Crickets, of course.

They push boundary changes that affect other people’s kids with the hope their own boundaries will be untouched.

Immaterial. Centreville is overcapacity. Chantilly is too. That is a fact.

Quite material.

Where are your kids zoned?

The board makes the decisions. They’ve decided that overcrowded schools will be moved.

If you don’t like it, talk to your reps.

Of course the School Board makes the decisions, dimwit.

Now tell us where you’re zoned so we can assess why you have such an interest in kids getting moved out of Centreville and Chantilly.

You first, madam.

You’re the one so interested in moving kids out of those two schools. Tell us where you’re zoned.

Why are you so mad at me? I’m just conveying to you that centreville and chantilly are grossly overcapacity, and the fix is more than five years away.

Take it up with the school board.

Centreville is down 125 kids from last year and the last CIP had Centreville at 104% in 2028-29. It’s not going to be grossly overcrowded, and is slated to be expanded in any event.

So why are you worried about Centreville? Where do you have kids?

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Anonymous wrote:So anyway, over under on how many centreville and Chantilly kids get moved to Westfield?

Isn't Chantilly considered a "neighborhood school?" So many families in the Greenbrier, Brookfield and Poplar Tree neighborhoods that are all walkers to the school. Would they really move kids who walk to school now miles away and have to move them by bus?

The school board is looking to alleviate overcrowding, and there is a real issue at centreville and chantilly. Sure it might be fixed six or seven years in the future, assuming the taxpayers approve a massive expansion, but that over browsing is an issue today. If they are serious about addressing under capacity or over capacity issues, they must do something at these two schools.

Where are you zoned? Some of the biggest advocates for “doing something” for Chantilly live elsewhere and have their own motives. They are fervently trying to game potential boundary changes so other kids get moved and their kids stay at their current schools.

If you are personally looking to move from Chantilly to Westfield, please let us know.

Misdirection. They just passed Policy 8130 and overcrowding is one of the big four factors.

Your whataboutism goes against the policy that they just passed this summer. I didn’t write the policy, the school board did. Talk to them.

You didn’t answer the question. Where are YOU zoned?

Crickets, of course.

They push boundary changes that affect other people’s kids with the hope their own boundaries will be untouched.

Immaterial. Centreville is overcapacity. Chantilly is too. That is a fact.

Quite material.

Where are your kids zoned?

The board makes the decisions. They’ve decided that overcrowded schools will be moved.

If you don’t like it, talk to your reps.

Of course the School Board makes the decisions, dimwit.

Now tell us where you’re zoned so we can assess why you have such an interest in kids getting moved out of Centreville and Chantilly.

You first, madam.

You’re the one so interested in moving kids out of those two schools. Tell us where you’re zoned.

Why are you so mad at me? I’m just conveying to you that centreville and chantilly are grossly overcapacity, and the fix is more than five years away.

Take it up with the school board.

Centreville is down 125 kids from last year and the last CIP had Centreville at 104% in 2028-29. It’s not going to be grossly overcrowded, and is slated to be expanded in any event.

So why are you worried about Centreville? Where do you have kids?

I hope they halt the Centreville expansion. What a waste of money. The enrollment decline is real and will continue, especially now. Just shift some Chantilly and Westfields boundaries to Herndon and call it a day.

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Calm down Chantilly momma!!

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Anonymous wrote:So anyway, over under on how many centreville and Chantilly kids get moved to Westfield?

Isn't Chantilly considered a "neighborhood school?" So many families in the Greenbrier, Brookfield and Poplar Tree neighborhoods that are all walkers to the school. Would they really move kids who walk to school now miles away and have to move them by bus?

Those obviously are not the children they would move, PP. Duh.

I would say that anything is on the table, tbh. Does Fairfax publish the percentage of walkers vs bussers at a each school? If one of the goals is to reduce overcrowding at Chantilly, it's totally possible some walkers (within 1.5 miles) could be rezoned.

Reid said recently that the boundaries are screwier on the eastern side of the county more so than the western, so I inferred that more change might take place there. Total guess though.