NYT and WaPo report Biden is close to stepping down

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:A word salad, cackling trainwreck, is just not a viable candidate. Joe has a better chance …Period.


She's better than the low energy shark infested word salad criminal insurrectionist. And she isn't offensive to our allies.

She doesn't come across well - but her record is good. We've tried a president who is the opposite. Let's give her a try and see how she does.


Wait - what?
DP
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Kamala Harris is ready to be our President.


She was tasked with the southern border and couldn’t even handle that.


That decision was one of the first that really made me side-eye President Biden’s choices as executive in chief. With abortion, it’s a major MAGA hot-button issue that eight years of Obama staffers and officials couldn’t solve and would be (and, indeed, is) a central 2024 election issue for many voters. He handed it to her without a jointly announced framework, vision, or resources. It sounded like an unfunded mandate.

He hung an albatross around her neck when he really needed to be building her up from day one as his successor (even if he thought that would be in 2028), and when he needed to be fighting for a 2024 victory from day one.

It’s not a matter of “couldn’t even handle that.” She was set up to fail.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:A word salad, cackling trainwreck, is just not a viable candidate. Joe has a better chance …Period.


She's better than the low energy shark infested word salad criminal insurrectionist. And she isn't offensive to our allies.

She doesn't come across well - but her record is good. We've tried a president who is the opposite. Let's give her a try and see how she does.


Wait - what?
DP


Her record as a prosecutor.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Kamala Harris is ready to be our President.


She was tasked with the southern border and couldn’t even handle that.


That decision was one of the first that really made me side-eye President Biden’s choices as executive in chief. With abortion, it’s a major MAGA hot-button issue that eight years of Obama staffers and officials couldn’t solve and would be (and, indeed, is) a central 2024 election issue for many voters. He handed it to her without a jointly announced framework, vision, or resources. It sounded like an unfunded mandate.

He hung an albatross around her neck when he really needed to be building her up from day one as his successor (even if he thought that would be in 2028), and when he needed to be fighting for a 2024 victory from day one.

It’s not a matter of “couldn’t even handle that.” She was set up to fail.


He is vengeful. Kamala is as much a victim as Trump . Kamala attacked Bidens character and said on the debate stage that she believed he was a racist and a sexual harasser of women -both accusations are political suicide for a Democrat candidate and Kamala knew that. She tried to kill Bidens momentum/political career and he killed her political career right back
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Kamala Harris is ready to be our President.


She was tasked with the southern border and couldn’t even handle that.


That decision was one of the first that really made me side-eye President Biden’s choices as executive in chief. With abortion, it’s a major MAGA hot-button issue that eight years of Obama staffers and officials couldn’t solve and would be (and, indeed, is) a central 2024 election issue for many voters. He handed it to her without a jointly announced framework, vision, or resources. It sounded like an unfunded mandate.

He hung an albatross around her neck when he really needed to be building her up from day one as his successor (even if he thought that would be in 2028), and when he needed to be fighting for a 2024 victory from day one.

It’s not a matter of “couldn’t even handle that.” She was set up to fail.


He is vengeful. Kamala is as much a victim as Trump . Kamala attacked Bidens character and said on the debate stage that she believed he was a racist and a sexual harasser of women -both accusations are political suicide for a Democrat candidate and Kamala knew that. She tried to kill Bidens momentum/political career and he killed her political career right back


Trump, a victim?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Kamala Harris is ready to be our President.


She was tasked with the southern border and couldn’t even handle that.


That decision was one of the first that really made me side-eye President Biden’s choices as executive in chief. With abortion, it’s a major MAGA hot-button issue that eight years of Obama staffers and officials couldn’t solve and would be (and, indeed, is) a central 2024 election issue for many voters. He handed it to her without a jointly announced framework, vision, or resources. It sounded like an unfunded mandate.

He hung an albatross around her neck when he really needed to be building her up from day one as his successor (even if he thought that would be in 2028), and when he needed to be fighting for a 2024 victory from day one.

It’s not a matter of “couldn’t even handle that.” She was set up to fail.


He is vengeful. Kamala is as much a victim as Trump . Kamala attacked Bidens character and said on the debate stage that she believed he was a racist and a sexual harasser of women -both accusations are political suicide for a Democrat candidate and Kamala knew that. She tried to kill Bidens momentum/political career and he killed her political career right back


That has been repeatedly debunked. You are an unserious poster, peddling blatant disinformation.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:After Obama, we should’ve brought in a new wave of leadership. Instead, the party went backward by ushering out Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden.


Agree. A year ago saying that out loud would have gotten you labeled MAGA etc. And that makes the situation even more painful.


+1. In addition, anyone who said Biden appeared unhealthy and senile was accused of concern trolling and falling for cheap fakes . Anyone who said what was becoming painfully obvious about Bidens age and growing weakness was accused of being MAGA or a Russian troll.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Kamala Harris is ready to be our President.


She was tasked with the southern border and couldn’t even handle that.


That decision was one of the first that really made me side-eye President Biden’s choices as executive in chief. With abortion, it’s a major MAGA hot-button issue that eight years of Obama staffers and officials couldn’t solve and would be (and, indeed, is) a central 2024 election issue for many voters. He handed it to her without a jointly announced framework, vision, or resources. It sounded like an unfunded mandate.

He hung an albatross around her neck when he really needed to be building her up from day one as his successor (even if he thought that would be in 2028), and when he needed to be fighting for a 2024 victory from day one.

It’s not a matter of “couldn’t even handle that.” She was set up to fail.


He is vengeful. Kamala is as much a victim as Trump . Kamala attacked Bidens character and said on the debate stage that she believed he was a racist and a sexual harasser of women -both accusations are political suicide for a Democrat candidate and Kamala knew that. She tried to kill Bidens momentum/political career and he killed her political career right back


That has been repeatedly debunked. You are an unserious poster, peddling blatant disinformation.


It’s not disinformation. The Biden WH is super vengeful and set Kamala up for failure with the border as a get back for her past disparagement of Biden . When NY Mayor Eric Adams criticized Biden, federal charges somehow were slapped upon the mayor .

There are many examples of Bidens draconian DOJ when it comes to criticism . Trump is not the only one . Biden was always resentful about being low on the totem pole in the Dem Party and now he’s showing his teeth
Anonymous
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Are these people living in reality? Did they watch the debate?


What debate? It will be forgotten like Biden's other performances indicating he is not able. He was doing this in 2020, and got elected. If he stays in all those people who said he was incapable, will just pretend they never said it.

They'll go back to
"This version of Biden, intellectually, analytically, is the best Biden ever. Not a close second. "


Yeah no.

Look at some old videos of Biden from the beginning of his presidency. He is unrecognizable today. Everyone can see that. Some deny it, for whatever reason.


I have the feeling the pro-Biden posters here are Republican trolls. As long as Biden stays in, it will be a Republican landslide up and down the ballot - the Presidency, the Senate, the House, State Houses, and the Courts for generations. Biden has rapidly declined over the past couple of years. Everyone sees it. And that is a gift to the GOP. They are the only people that want to keep Biden on the ballot.


Who on the Dem side is more electable than Biden? It’s not Kamala



It's an unknowable. We know Kamala Harris is a weak candidate because she went through the process in 2020 and didn't even make it to Iowa. No one knows how someone is going to do until they are in the hot glare of a genuine primary. Which Democrats elected not to do this year.

What makes things even more difficult this year is that many of the assumed leading candidates are unlikely to put their name in the ring regardless. No one wants be the sacrificial lamb or the asterisk candidate during this mess of an election.

And it's also a pointless discussion. It seems increasingly unlikely that Biden is going to drop out in the next three weeks. And there is no realistic way to remove him unwillingly.

So, Democrats are looking at a disastrous election in November no matter they do


I’m not a Democrat or a Republican and generally detest politicians. Biden has never much impressed me and Kamala less so. Trump’s first term wasn’t great, but there is a decent chance he could do a lot of damage with a second term. Thus at this stage I’d prefer he not be elected.

But I am so annoyed at this point by the appalling egotism of Biden and Kamala and the utter fecklessness of the Democratic party in finding a candidate that stands a decent chance of beating Trump that I will probably derive a bit of schadenfreude from a Trump victory. If anyone has seen a case of worse politics than we are seeing from the Democrats right now, please let us know. Where the hell is James Carville when you need him?
Anonymous
Here's what I think the fundamental tension is:

- on the one hand, you have some Democrats who believe Joe Biden's debate performance amplified concerns about his age in a way that may dissuade people from voting for him.

- on the other hand, the primaries are over, and Joe Biden is disinclined to step aside.

This leaves the Democrats in a predicament: should Joe Biden be the nominee in the general election?
Anonymous
Ready for Round 2: Why we Need Hillary more than ever

https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/4780301-hillary-clinton-2024/amp/

The strongest argument against replacing President Joe Biden as the 2024 Democratic nominee is the notion that no suitable successor exists. But there is, and not just a good one but one of the most qualified people ever to run for the office: Hillary Rodham Clinton.


Clinton is a ready-made replacement. She possesses an unparalleled resume and an unmatched depth of experience. She has consistently redefined the roles she has served, from secretary of State and U.S. senator to first lady and Children’s Defense Fund attorney. Her extensive background in domestic and international affairs is not just impressive; at a time when global politics are increasingly volatile and complex, her experience is priceless. Her continued advocacy for children’s rights and health care—a topic of ever-increasing importance post-pandemic—adds another layer of appeal.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Ready for Round 2: Why we Need Hillary more than ever

https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/4780301-hillary-clinton-2024/amp/

The strongest argument against replacing President Joe Biden as the 2024 Democratic nominee is the notion that no suitable successor exists. But there is, and not just a good one but one of the most qualified people ever to run for the office: Hillary Rodham Clinton.


Clinton is a ready-made replacement. She possesses an unparalleled resume and an unmatched depth of experience. She has consistently redefined the roles she has served, from secretary of State and U.S. senator to first lady and Children’s Defense Fund attorney. Her extensive background in domestic and international affairs is not just impressive; at a time when global politics are increasingly volatile and complex, her experience is priceless. Her continued advocacy for children’s rights and health care—a topic of ever-increasing importance post-pandemic—adds another layer of appeal.


Pablo O:Hana? He should write for the Onion. It's more his speed. SMH
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Ready for Round 2: Why we Need Hillary more than ever

https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/4780301-hillary-clinton-2024/amp/

The strongest argument against replacing President Joe Biden as the 2024 Democratic nominee is the notion that no suitable successor exists. But there is, and not just a good one but one of the most qualified people ever to run for the office: Hillary Rodham Clinton.

Did you forget how the 2016 race turned out?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Democrats have nothing to say and no platform, no vision, other than bashing and fear mongering about Trump. Nothing, zero, nada. And they have a horrific candidate, and anybody who is in the discussion would be just as bad.
But the good news is that most of the country’sees through the lies and knows that Trump will be a fantastic President once again.


This is exactly right. Perfectly put. I might add that most Trump voters are well aware of his personal flaws, but those flaws are overshadowed by his unique ability to deflect all the personal attacks & focus on common-sense solutions (which are NOT extremist).
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Kamala Harris is ready to be our President. Joe Biden needs to step aside for the good of our country.

If he resigns, Harris will be president immediately. If he steps aside from running in 2024 but remains president for the remainder of his term, Harris will never be chosen in an open convention.
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