College Football--Big Ten Expansion

[Anonymous]

It's too quiet. Something is going on at FSU. The school is serious about leaving the ACC. Hired fancy inverstment bank and brought in a top private equity firm.

DEADLINE to inform the ACC of intention to leave is in one week from today--August 15, 2023.

[Anonymous]

All this conference nonsense is ridiculous. Just saw Cal and Stanford might want to join Atlantic Coast Conference. It will be a huge burden on student athletes to fly cross country for games. All these money hungry schools need to slow their roll.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:All this conference nonsense is ridiculous. Just saw Cal and Stanford might want to join Atlantic Coast Conference. It will be a huge burden on student athletes to fly cross country for games. All these money hungry schools need to slow their roll.

We'll let 'em know.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's too quiet. Something is going on at FSU. The school is serious about leaving the ACC. Hired fancy inverstment bank and brought in a top private equity firm.

DEADLINE to inform the ACC of intention to leave is in one week from today--August 15, 2023.

We need to take a vote:

FSU's destination if FSU leaves the ACC:

Big Ten Conference

SEC

NFL

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's too quiet. Something is going on at FSU. The school is serious about leaving the ACC. Hired fancy inverstment bank and brought in a top private equity firm.

DEADLINE to inform the ACC of intention to leave is in one week from today--August 15, 2023.

They are going nowhere this year. It is quiet because it is.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think in this thread there is a lack of understanding about what is important to the high academic schools.

Stanford does not recruit against Cal. Much like ND their base is national.

And it is smart. Will they dip to a solid B student who as no chance of getting in otherwise but is solid as a student and a great receiver-- yes. A few recruits. Most of the rest are A students. They are going to Stanford because they are smart and because they are really good at football. There are maybe 5 kids that would be recruited by both Stanford and Alabama.

What is important to Stanford as a university is to play good games against good teams so that the rest of the student body has a break from learning to change the universe. National Title run? Great. But it is a adjunct to the school, the tail not the dog.

That is what they care about.

Duke and BC are somewhat similar even if lower ranked by USNWS. BC is not taking C students on their teams. It is what has killed them in basketball. Duke makes exceptions for basketball and only a little for football.

In football neither wants to compete for a national championship. If they got one, great. But that is not the goal. They want games against Clemson, Miami, FSU that they win or lose but that students and alums like. For BC it is ok to beat FSU only once in a while so the kids can storm the field.

Those schools want a top conference for the games.

These schools (and Wake most likely) have different motivations.

That is why this is difficult. If everyone wanted just football glory or money this would be easy. But there is more of an agenda here for a number of the schools.

Oh please. Of course Stanford competes for top recruits in football. The vast majority of “qualified” recruits are not in the slightest bit interested in playing for a mediocre program with limited television exposure. Their base is National like ND? You can’t be serious. Almost nobody cares about Stanford football nationally. You’re conflating high quality academics with major athletics. Stanford excels in academics of course and in the esoteric sports that draw little interest from the vast majority of the country.

Duke makes huge concessions for basketball. Notre Dame makes large concessions for football as well. You make it sound like all of these schools are so much more concerned about all of their athletes being top student in academics than other top schools who do compete. It’s simply not true.

Not ND and not Duke in basketball but Stanford cares about it a lot.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It's too quiet. Something is going on at FSU. The school is serious about leaving the ACC. Hired fancy inverstment bank and brought in a top private equity firm.

DEADLINE to inform the ACC of intention to leave is in one week from today--August 15, 2023.

They are going nowhere this year. It is quiet because it is.

Possible, but why hire investment bank JP Morgan Chase & elite private equity firm Sixth Street ?

Maybe targeting their departure for next year ?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's too quiet. Something is going on at FSU. The school is serious about leaving the ACC. Hired fancy inverstment bank and brought in a top private equity firm.

DEADLINE to inform the ACC of intention to leave is in one week from today--August 15, 2023.

They are going nowhere this year. It is quiet because it is.

(OP here)

We will all know within 7 days as the deadline is August 15, 2023.

My best guess is that FSU will notify the ACC next week that it intends to leave the conference. Could be a negotiating tactic, could be serious, could be both.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's too quiet. Something is going on at FSU. The school is serious about leaving the ACC. Hired fancy inverstment bank and brought in a top private equity firm.

DEADLINE to inform the ACC of intention to leave is in one week from today--August 15, 2023.

They are going nowhere this year. It is quiet because it is.

Possible, but why hire investment bank JP Morgan Chase & elite private equity firm Sixth Street ?

Maybe targeting their departure for next year ?

why? Without having the capital ready there is no point even thinking about doing something.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's too quiet. Something is going on at FSU. The school is serious about leaving the ACC. Hired fancy inverstment bank and brought in a top private equity firm.

DEADLINE to inform the ACC of intention to leave is in one week from today--August 15, 2023.

They are going nowhere this year. It is quiet because it is.

(OP here)

We will all know within 7 days as the deadline is August 15, 2023.

My best guess is that FSU will notify the ACC next week that it intends to leave the conference. Could be a negotiating tactic, could be serious, could be both.

But they cannot go anywhere. With the GOR no one would make them an offer. FSU is stuck

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's too quiet. Something is going on at FSU. The school is serious about leaving the ACC. Hired fancy inverstment bank and brought in a top private equity firm.

DEADLINE to inform the ACC of intention to leave is in one week from today--August 15, 2023.

They are going nowhere this year. It is quiet because it is.

(OP here)

We will all know within 7 days as the deadline is August 15, 2023.

My best guess is that FSU will notify the ACC next week that it intends to leave the conference. Could be a negotiating tactic, could be serious, could be both.

But they cannot go anywhere. With the GOR no one would make them an offer. FSU is stuck

In addition to the fancy investment bank & fancy private equity firm, FSU has a bevy of fancy lawyers.

[Anonymous]

Yahoo sports is reporting that ACC looking at Cal, Stanford, and SMU.

In the same article it said that there is a provision in the ACC/ESPN deal that requires ESPN to increase the payout if there are new members so that all members are paid the same.

Not sure what that means in practice.

https://sports.yahoo.com/sources-acc-considering-smu-in-addition-to-cal-and-stanford-in-expansion-talks-205526422.html

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It's too quiet. Something is going on at FSU. The school is serious about leaving the ACC. Hired fancy inverstment bank and brought in a top private equity firm.

DEADLINE to inform the ACC of intention to leave is in one week from today--August 15, 2023.

They are going nowhere this year. It is quiet because it is.

(OP here)

We will all know within 7 days as the deadline is August 15, 2023.

My best guess is that FSU will notify the ACC next week that it intends to leave the conference. Could be a negotiating tactic, could be serious, could be both.

But they cannot go anywhere. With the GOR no one would make them an offer. FSU is stuck

In addition to the fancy investment bank & fancy private equity firm, FSU has a bevy of fancy lawyers.

That is not going to help here as has been discussed in this thread. Unless there is an agreed exit they can leave but no one would take them. If an actual negotiated deal fine. But if they just say they are leaving they will have no home until the litigation ends.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It's too quiet. Something is going on at FSU. The school is serious about leaving the ACC. Hired fancy inverstment bank and brought in a top private equity firm.

DEADLINE to inform the ACC of intention to leave is in one week from today--August 15, 2023.

They are going nowhere this year. It is quiet because it is.

(OP here)

We will all know within 7 days as the deadline is August 15, 2023.

My best guess is that FSU will notify the ACC next week that it intends to leave the conference. Could be a negotiating tactic, could be serious, could be both.

But they cannot go anywhere. With the GOR no one would make them an offer. FSU is stuck

In addition to the fancy investment bank & fancy private equity firm, FSU has a bevy of fancy lawyers.

That is not going to help here as has been discussed in this thread. Unless there is an agreed exit they can leave but no one would take them. If an actual negotiated deal fine. But if they just say they are leaving they will have no home until the litigation ends.

You haven't kept an open mind when reading this thread. You simply believe that all others agree with you. You are wrong.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yahoo sports is reporting that ACC looking at Cal, Stanford, and SMU.

In the same article it said that there is a provision in the ACC/ESPN deal that requires ESPN to increase the payout if there are new members so that all members are paid the same.

Not sure what that means in practice.

https://sports.yahoo.com/sources-acc-considering-smu-in-addition-to-cal-and-stanford-in-expansion-talks-205526422.html

Just heard on CBS Sports that SMU willing to forgo any media rights payment for the first several years of ACC membership.