| For everyone saying that mental illness can equal legal insanity, they do not know the incredible threshold for insanity. Someone in the midst of a psychotic or delusional episode may not even be insane if they acted in a way that they knew what they did was wrong:flee a scene, hide from the cops, lie about what happened. It's a very very high standard that most mentally ill people would never be able to meet. |
the kids who were abused in the photos/videos Hoppe shared w the UC agent are real people and they are victims. |
There are people on this thread who claimed to have known her biblically when younger, who had sex with her repeatedly and a poster who described a particular act she was known for, you must not have read those posts describing what she was like when younger. This is not the only message board where locals or those who knew E or J at some point are discussing the charges, including someone close to the family during the divorce. It has been stated that she had diagnoses of bipolar and depression. I'm sure more will come out in further court filings. Bipolar typically involves medication, not just therapy and many are non-compliant. It is commonly linked to hypersexuality which she was arguably displaying in college and certainly in 2018 and 2019 with divorce filings talking about her pursuing sex with men and women online, bringing a man back to the marital home with the young kids present and the public sex in a park. |
Where has this been posted? I’ve looked at other message boards, but haven’t seen postings from anyone who claims to have known her. |
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There were a lot of early posts on Reddit the same day this thread was started, as one example. Some threads may have been closed but posts may be up. I mean, who knows? More will come out in the future public court filings.
IRL terms, if anyone you know who is married starts soliciting both genders for sex online and brings strangers back to the marital home dtf with the young kids home or who strips off and has sex in a park, get them to a psychiatrist to be screened for bipolar, it's classic hypersexuality/mania. I learned on this thread that MS can also cause mania. She could have had several different factors, including csa. But none of those things is an excuse for preying on kids. |
Not sure if you are asking for someone to speak to the reasoning behind her father & brother not working at Hunton, Andrews, Kurth or whether or not she truly is a wealthy "socialite," but as someone who grew up in Richmond & went to school with them, here's my input/two cents: Her family was certainly wealthy in many aspects for Richmond. They lived in a large Colonial-style house on Three Chopt Rd which was right next to St. Catherine's and across the street from the Country Club of Virginia (CCV) (if you don't know anything about RVA, the area they lived in is a lot like Alexandria & the Belle Heaven Country Club area). Their house was decorated very nicely & kept up well (housekeepers, maids, gardeners, etc.). They drove nice cars (Mercedes, brand new Grand Jeep Cherokee on a 16th birthday), and they had nice clothes. Both kids went to private schools (St. Catherine's & St. Christopher's) from K-12 and then went to multiple colleges, some of which were not cheap. They were members of CCV and the Commonwealth Club. They did cotillion, hosted and attended sweet sixteen parties, didn't miss a ski weekend or beach week (Richmond school thing), etc., and Eleanor was a debutante. Does that classify her as a "socialite"? Maybe. I guess it depends on how you define socialite. But I also think the media knows how to get people to click, so their choice of words is deliberate. So yes - they were wealthy. I say "were" because I have no clue what their financial standing is now, but I highly doubt much has changed. (I mean, I just looked up the house Eleanor and Eppa VI grew up in on Zillow, and it looks like it sold for over $1.5MM not that long ago, so...) This is an old Virginia family with multiple generations of "Eppas" who have made an impact on everything from politics to businesses to universities, and a lot of wealth comes with that. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eppa_Hunton https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eppa_Hunton_Jr. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eppa_Hunton_IV As to why neither Eppa V (dad) nor Eppa VI (brother) works for Hunton, Andrews, Kurth - My understanding is that there was a nepotism clause put in place way back when it was Hunton & Williams. So only two generations of Eppa's worked there - Eppa III (aka Eppa Jr.), who started the firm, and Eppa IV, who was Eleanor's grandfather. I don't even think Eppa VI lives in Richmond anymore, but I may be wrong about that. |
| The brother lives in the sticks and doesn’t have the best reputation then or now. |
| It is not that easy to get an adult family member suffering from a manic episode ti see a dr. Ask me how I know. |
+1 the feds will nail her on the CSAM related charges. |
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It is utterly grim how many of these people are out there.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/spider-man-window-washer-gets-100-years-for-taking-pornographic-images-of-children-he-babysat And Epstein showed little social sanction even when he was released from prison. Hopefully EHH will have a serious legal consequence but would not be surprised if it is bargained down given her resources. |
I agree, but, unless there is a direct connection between Hoppe and the person who produced those photos or Hoppe, herself, produced those photos, the victim's testimony would not be relevant to this case. On the otherhand, if Hoppe is connected, she could spend the rest of her life in prison. |
Hoppe's family has enormous wealth which makes all things possible. |
Real victims do testify unless they are wealthy like Hoppe. |
It sounds like they were privileged, but not wealthy. Being a law firm partner, even a law firm founder, is great, but you don't make millions upon exiting. And back in his day he probably didn't make that much period. It was a good living but not CEO level money. There are no stock options. All the private schools, trips, etc are pretty standard UMC/UC activities. Happens here too, but it's cheaper in Richmond. As an example, the upper school at St Catherine's is $30k/year while DC privates are $60k. If they had maids, gardeners, etc. they may well have been overspending. Agree that Hunton likely has an antinepotism policy but usually that just means you can't have related people active in the firm, or sometimes active in the partnership. So the dad or son could theoretically join the firm but my guess is they aren't Hunton material. |
Eppa Hoppe V must have some kind of gravitas to get the Chesterfield Commonwealth's Attorney to roll over and accept that Eleanor's undressing at Pocahontas State park was just some random nudity and didn't involve anyone else and let her serve 25 hours of community service and for the assistant manager who contacted the police, who is now a full manager at another state park, to claim he can't comment on the incident. |