How is FCPS teacher/staff shortage?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:New plan!

https://www.fcps.edu/careers/recruitment

Scroll down to “teacher resident” and click through to get details. Basically anyone with a bachelors can be hired on a provisional license.

Fulfills classroom teacher duties while following a fast-tracked educational route to qualifying for and obtaining a VDOE teaching license; under general supervision from a school-based administrator, and working closely with FCPS instructional leadership, plans and provides relevant learning experiences using the Virginia Standards of Learning, the school’s curriculum, effective and engaging strategies, resources, and data to meet the needs of all students; gathers, analyzes, and uses data to monitor and evaluate student performance, guide instruction, and provide feedback to students and parents; provides a respectful, positive, safe, student-centered learning environment that considers the developmental needs of students; collaborates with colleagues/administrators/families and participates in professional growth activities that result in enhanced student academic achievement.

Come on everyone who said teaching is a cushy job! Come join us! Literally zero barriers to entry now!

Yet my DW who is certified through sixth grade and currently teaches advanced math in 6th can’t take a 7th grade math position until she passes the Praxis?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:New plan!

https://www.fcps.edu/careers/recruitment

Scroll down to “teacher resident” and click through to get details. Basically anyone with a bachelors can be hired on a provisional license.

Fulfills classroom teacher duties while following a fast-tracked educational route to qualifying for and obtaining a VDOE teaching license; under general supervision from a school-based administrator, and working closely with FCPS instructional leadership, plans and provides relevant learning experiences using the Virginia Standards of Learning, the school’s curriculum, effective and engaging strategies, resources, and data to meet the needs of all students; gathers, analyzes, and uses data to monitor and evaluate student performance, guide instruction, and provide feedback to students and parents; provides a respectful, positive, safe, student-centered learning environment that considers the developmental needs of students; collaborates with colleagues/administrators/families and participates in professional growth activities that result in enhanced student academic achievement.

Come on everyone who said teaching is a cushy job! Come join us! Literally zero barriers to entry now!

Yet my DW who is certified through sixth grade and currently teaches advanced math in 6th can’t take a 7th grade math position until she passes the Praxis?

If you read, even these “residents” have to pass the praxis before starting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I would be interested for 75k.

Teach for 10 years with a masters (and hope for semi regular step increases) and then you can make that.

But yeah, the bottom line is no one is going to fill these positions unless they increase pay significantly, which seems to be the one thing the county refuses to do. Things are going to get way worse before they get better unless pay scales change.

Former colleagues left this summer to do real estate, HR in construction, conference planning for a consulting company. All signed on to make at least $20k more than their experienced teacher salary.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:New plan!

https://www.fcps.edu/careers/recruitment

Scroll down to “teacher resident” and click through to get details. Basically anyone with a bachelors can be hired on a provisional license.

Fulfills classroom teacher duties while following a fast-tracked educational route to qualifying for and obtaining a VDOE teaching license; under general supervision from a school-based administrator, and working closely with FCPS instructional leadership, plans and provides relevant learning experiences using the Virginia Standards of Learning, the school’s curriculum, effective and engaging strategies, resources, and data to meet the needs of all students; gathers, analyzes, and uses data to monitor and evaluate student performance, guide instruction, and provide feedback to students and parents; provides a respectful, positive, safe, student-centered learning environment that considers the developmental needs of students; collaborates with colleagues/administrators/families and participates in professional growth activities that result in enhanced student academic achievement.

Come on everyone who said teaching is a cushy job! Come join us! Literally zero barriers to entry now!

Yet my DW who is certified through sixth grade and currently teaches advanced math in 6th can’t take a 7th grade math position until she passes the Praxis?

If you read, even these “residents” have to pass the praxis before starting.

I admit I must be missing that. Is it in the link they provide? I see “Commitment to meet minimum qualifications to be eligible for a Virginia Board of Education license within the first year of employment”.
https://pf.payfactors.com/client/job-description-management/job-descriptions/979942?jwt=eyJhbGciOiJIUzUxMiIsInR5cCI6IkpXVCJ9.eyJ0eXBlIjoxLCJjb250ZXh0Ijp7IkNvbXBhbnlJZCI6ODkwNiwiSnd0VHlwZSI6MX19.7-dM2Tr6kdUbsQN8-72suOtz0IBq6A6J85dJWKe9AomGfn4wYnqQXhI_oX8vfD2rufhlFj5_-ekv5XMAClV9lg&viewName=Public

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:New plan!

https://www.fcps.edu/careers/recruitment

Scroll down to “teacher resident” and click through to get details. Basically anyone with a bachelors can be hired on a provisional license.

Fulfills classroom teacher duties while following a fast-tracked educational route to qualifying for and obtaining a VDOE teaching license; under general supervision from a school-based administrator, and working closely with FCPS instructional leadership, plans and provides relevant learning experiences using the Virginia Standards of Learning, the school’s curriculum, effective and engaging strategies, resources, and data to meet the needs of all students; gathers, analyzes, and uses data to monitor and evaluate student performance, guide instruction, and provide feedback to students and parents; provides a respectful, positive, safe, student-centered learning environment that considers the developmental needs of students; collaborates with colleagues/administrators/families and participates in professional growth activities that result in enhanced student academic achievement.

Come on everyone who said teaching is a cushy job! Come join us! Literally zero barriers to entry now!

Yet my DW who is certified through sixth grade and currently teaches advanced math in 6th can’t take a 7th grade math position until she passes the Praxis?

Have they double checked?? All requirements and restrictions have been removed as far as I know. Sped teachers on provisionals have been able to extend beyond the expiration date this year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would be interested for 75k.

Teach for 10 years with a masters (and hope for semi regular step increases) and then you can make that.

But yeah, the bottom line is no one is going to fill these positions unless they increase pay significantly, which seems to be the one thing the county refuses to do. Things are going to get way worse before they get better unless pay scales change.

Former colleagues left this summer to do real estate, HR in construction, conference planning for a consulting company. All signed on to make at least $20k more than their experienced teacher salary.

Changing the pay scales will be the absolute last thing that they do. I'd wager that the governor will send in non-degreed people before anyone pays teachers more. I expect this to get much worse and I expect this to be my last year in the county because it is too stressful at this point.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would be interested for 75k.

Teach for 10 years with a masters (and hope for semi regular step increases) and then you can make that.

But yeah, the bottom line is no one is going to fill these positions unless they increase pay significantly, which seems to be the one thing the county refuses to do. Things are going to get way worse before they get better unless pay scales change.

Former colleagues left this summer to do real estate, HR in construction, conference planning for a consulting company. All signed on to make at least $20k more than their experienced teacher salary.

Changing the pay scales will be the absolute last thing that they do. I'd wager that the governor will send in non-degreed people before anyone pays teachers more. I expect this to get much worse and I expect this to be my last year in the county because it is too stressful at this point.

LOL, the Governor would sell the school systems to churches before helping in any meaningful way.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would be interested for 75k.

Teach for 10 years with a masters (and hope for semi regular step increases) and then you can make that.

But yeah, the bottom line is no one is going to fill these positions unless they increase pay significantly, which seems to be the one thing the county refuses to do. Things are going to get way worse before they get better unless pay scales change.

Former colleagues left this summer to do real estate, HR in construction, conference planning for a consulting company. All signed on to make at least $20k more than their experienced teacher salary.

No, the pay isn't the problem. The problem is stress, bad administration/micromanagement, and too little autonomy. Raising pay isn't going to retain stressed unhappy teachers.

[Anonymous]

Word is that OSS added more than 140 positions for this school year- if true that’s insulting AND operational malpractice.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would be interested for 75k.

Teach for 10 years with a masters (and hope for semi regular step increases) and then you can make that.

But yeah, the bottom line is no one is going to fill these positions unless they increase pay significantly, which seems to be the one thing the county refuses to do. Things are going to get way worse before they get better unless pay scales change.

Former colleagues left this summer to do real estate, HR in construction, conference planning for a consulting company. All signed on to make at least $20k more than their experienced teacher salary.

No, the pay isn't the problem. The problem is stress, bad administration/micromanagement, and too little autonomy. Raising pay isn't going to retain stressed unhappy teachers.

The pay is a huge part of the problem. You can offset a ton of work related stress if you aren’t also worried about paying your bills.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would be interested for 75k.

Teach for 10 years with a masters (and hope for semi regular step increases) and then you can make that.

But yeah, the bottom line is no one is going to fill these positions unless they increase pay significantly, which seems to be the one thing the county refuses to do. Things are going to get way worse before they get better unless pay scales change.

Former colleagues left this summer to do real estate, HR in construction, conference planning for a consulting company. All signed on to make at least $20k more than their experienced teacher salary.

I would be interested to hear about any other jobs experienced teachers are finding outside of teaching. I’m planning my long term exit strategy. These sound interesting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would be interested for 75k.

Teach for 10 years with a masters (and hope for semi regular step increases) and then you can make that.

But yeah, the bottom line is no one is going to fill these positions unless they increase pay significantly, which seems to be the one thing the county refuses to do. Things are going to get way worse before they get better unless pay scales change.

Former colleagues left this summer to do real estate, HR in construction, conference planning for a consulting company. All signed on to make at least $20k more than their experienced teacher salary.

No, the pay isn't the problem. The problem is stress, bad administration/micromanagement, and too little autonomy. Raising pay isn't going to retain stressed unhappy teachers.

The pay is a huge part of the problem. You can offset a ton of work related stress if you aren’t also worried about paying your bills.

No, that's not true. People quit high stress high pay jobs. They don't stay.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would be interested for 75k.

Teach for 10 years with a masters (and hope for semi regular step increases) and then you can make that.

But yeah, the bottom line is no one is going to fill these positions unless they increase pay significantly, which seems to be the one thing the county refuses to do. Things are going to get way worse before they get better unless pay scales change.

Former colleagues left this summer to do real estate, HR in construction, conference planning for a consulting company. All signed on to make at least $20k more than their experienced teacher salary.

I would be interested to hear about any other jobs experienced teachers are finding outside of teaching. I’m planning my long term exit strategy. These sound interesting.

I feel bad for whoever went into real estate though, that's a career that's shaky now and likely to tank soon.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would be interested for 75k.

Teach for 10 years with a masters (and hope for semi regular step increases) and then you can make that.

But yeah, the bottom line is no one is going to fill these positions unless they increase pay significantly, which seems to be the one thing the county refuses to do. Things are going to get way worse before they get better unless pay scales change.

Former colleagues left this summer to do real estate, HR in construction, conference planning for a consulting company. All signed on to make at least $20k more than their experienced teacher salary.

Changing the pay scales will be the absolute last thing that they do. I'd wager that the governor will send in non-degreed people before anyone pays teachers more. I expect this to get much worse and I expect this to be my last year in the county because it is too stressful at this point.

LOL, the Governor would sell the school systems to churches before helping in any meaningful way.

Why does the governor have to help? Ffx County has plenty of money. The county is filled with experienced, well educated, competent professionals and doesn’t need outside help.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would be interested for 75k.

Teach for 10 years with a masters (and hope for semi regular step increases) and then you can make that.

But yeah, the bottom line is no one is going to fill these positions unless they increase pay significantly, which seems to be the one thing the county refuses to do. Things are going to get way worse before they get better unless pay scales change.

Former colleagues left this summer to do real estate, HR in construction, conference planning for a consulting company. All signed on to make at least $20k more than their experienced teacher salary.

No, the pay isn't the problem. The problem is stress, bad administration/micromanagement, and too little autonomy. Raising pay isn't going to retain stressed unhappy teachers.

The pay is a huge part of the problem. You can offset a ton of work related stress if you aren’t also worried about paying your bills.

No, that's not true. People quit high stress high pay jobs. They don't stay.

Yeah imagine how someone feels in a high stress AND low pay job. Money absolutely IS a factor.