Has Duran gone mad? (APS)

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Anonymous wrote:I'm quite perplexed why parents who are especially risk averse and virus-phobic are so adamant that parents and teachers who don't share their perspective shouldn't be allowed to return to school in person, so long as there is an opt out for parents who want to continue full-time DL.

It’s “if I can’t have it, I don’t want you to have it either.” Ive absolutely heard that from a vocal APS DL family.

At its heart, of course this is what it is.

Yep. It’s Fomo. And they don’t want to send their kids back, but don’t want to have to tell their kids they won’t let them go back, so they try and keep everyone down

This.

Or we just understand the risks and want the schools to mitigate properly...

I personally picked hybrid, but I’m not into stupid, “right now” hybrid that gets shut down again. The DL people didn’t feel like fighting with you. I have trusted APS to be smart about it. I hope they don’t cave to nonsense.

Exactly. We picked hybrid. I want my kids to go back as soon as they can - safely.

Not in the middle of a surge. And not without testing, filters, etc.

Then request to switch to virtual when and if hybrid rolls out. Worst case you finish the year virtually and go back in person in the fall. Realistically, if they’re not back in schools by spring break, it doesn’t make sense to go back this year at all, so you won’t be missing much compared to what you might deem acceptable.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm quite perplexed why parents who are especially risk averse and virus-phobic are so adamant that parents and teachers who don't share their perspective shouldn't be allowed to return to school in person, so long as there is an opt out for parents who want to continue full-time DL.

It’s “if I can’t have it, I don’t want you to have it either.” Ive absolutely heard that from a vocal APS DL family.

At its heart, of course this is what it is.

Yep. It’s Fomo. And they don’t want to send their kids back, but don’t want to have to tell their kids they won’t let them go back, so they try and keep everyone down

This.

Or we just understand the risks and want the schools to mitigate properly...

I personally picked hybrid, but I’m not into stupid, “right now” hybrid that gets shut down again. The DL people didn’t feel like fighting with you. I have trusted APS to be smart about it. I hope they don’t cave to nonsense.

Exactly. We picked hybrid. I want my kids to go back as soon as they can - safely.

Not in the middle of a surge. And not without testing, filters, etc.

Then request to switch to virtual when and if hybrid rolls out. Worst case you finish the year virtually and go back in person in the fall. Realistically, if they’re not back in schools by spring break, it doesn’t make sense to go back this year at all, so you won’t be missing much compared to what you might deem acceptable.

I don’t want virtual. I want APS to take necessary steps to open schools safely so I can send my kids back now.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm quite perplexed why parents who are especially risk averse and virus-phobic are so adamant that parents and teachers who don't share their perspective shouldn't be allowed to return to school in person, so long as there is an opt out for parents who want to continue full-time DL.

It’s “if I can’t have it, I don’t want you to have it either.” Ive absolutely heard that from a vocal APS DL family.

At its heart, of course this is what it is.

Yep. It’s Fomo. And they don’t want to send their kids back, but don’t want to have to tell their kids they won’t let them go back, so they try and keep everyone down

This.

Or we just understand the risks and want the schools to mitigate properly...

I personally picked hybrid, but I’m not into stupid, “right now” hybrid that gets shut down again. The DL people didn’t feel like fighting with you. I have trusted APS to be smart about it. I hope they don’t cave to nonsense.

Exactly. We picked hybrid. I want my kids to go back as soon as they can - safely.

Not in the middle of a surge. And not without testing, filters, etc.

Then request to switch to virtual when and if hybrid rolls out. Worst case you finish the year virtually and go back in person in the fall. Realistically, if they’re not back in schools by spring break, it doesn’t make sense to go back this year at all, so you won’t be missing much compared to what you might deem acceptable.

I don’t want virtual. I want APS to take necessary steps to open schools safely so I can send my kids back now.

Except you just said you don’t want to go back now because there’s a surge. APS can’t control the surge.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm quite perplexed why parents who are especially risk averse and virus-phobic are so adamant that parents and teachers who don't share their perspective shouldn't be allowed to return to school in person, so long as there is an opt out for parents who want to continue full-time DL.

It’s “if I can’t have it, I don’t want you to have it either.” Ive absolutely heard that from a vocal APS DL family.

At its heart, of course this is what it is.

Yep. It’s Fomo. And they don’t want to send their kids back, but don’t want to have to tell their kids they won’t let them go back, so they try and keep everyone down

This.

Or we just understand the risks and want the schools to mitigate properly...

I personally picked hybrid, but I’m not into stupid, “right now” hybrid that gets shut down again. The DL people didn’t feel like fighting with you. I have trusted APS to be smart about it. I hope they don’t cave to nonsense.

Exactly. We picked hybrid. I want my kids to go back as soon as they can - safely.

Not in the middle of a surge. And not without testing, filters, etc.

Then request to switch to virtual when and if hybrid rolls out. Worst case you finish the year virtually and go back in person in the fall. Realistically, if they’re not back in schools by spring break, it doesn’t make sense to go back this year at all, so you won’t be missing much compared to what you might deem acceptable.

I don’t want virtual. I want APS to take necessary steps to open schools safely so I can send my kids back now.

Except you just said you don’t want to go back now because there’s a surge. APS can’t control the surge.

Yes, it’d be dumb to open in a surge. Wait a month or two and open safely this semester. Take this time to get the air filters and contract with a local lab. I would have sent my kids in the fall if they had implemented sufficient safety measures then as other schools have done.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm quite perplexed why parents who are especially risk averse and virus-phobic are so adamant that parents and teachers who don't share their perspective shouldn't be allowed to return to school in person, so long as there is an opt out for parents who want to continue full-time DL.

It’s “if I can’t have it, I don’t want you to have it either.” Ive absolutely heard that from a vocal APS DL family.

At its heart, of course this is what it is.

Yep. It’s Fomo. And they don’t want to send their kids back, but don’t want to have to tell their kids they won’t let them go back, so they try and keep everyone down

This.

Or we just understand the risks and want the schools to mitigate properly...

I personally picked hybrid, but I’m not into stupid, “right now” hybrid that gets shut down again. The DL people didn’t feel like fighting with you. I have trusted APS to be smart about it. I hope they don’t cave to nonsense.

Exactly. We picked hybrid. I want my kids to go back as soon as they can - safely.

Not in the middle of a surge. And not without testing, filters, etc.

Then request to switch to virtual when and if hybrid rolls out. Worst case you finish the year virtually and go back in person in the fall. Realistically, if they’re not back in schools by spring break, it doesn’t make sense to go back this year at all, so you won’t be missing much compared to what you might deem acceptable.

I don’t want virtual. I want APS to take necessary steps to open schools safely so I can send my kids back now.

Except you just said you don’t want to go back now because there’s a surge. APS can’t control the surge.

Yes, it’d be dumb to open in a surge. Wait a month or two and open safely this semester. Take this time to get the air filters and contract with a local lab. I would have sent my kids in the fall if they had implemented sufficient safety measures then as other schools have done.

None of us are getting what we want right now, so it’s time to put on your big girl pants and cope.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:And 40% of teachers don’t want to go back. The questionnaire was flawed. If you didn’t have any reason preventing you from returning (health issue yourself, in your family, or child care concern) then the only option was “I want to go back”. There was no “I don’t feel safe but I am not at risk or have childcare concerns”.

I think this goes back to the essential workers debate. Teachers *should* be essential workers, and therefore this questionnaire makes complete sense. And if childcare concerns is a reason, that's pretty impressive. Most essential workers with students learning from home for the past several months probably didn't have that same option.

I’m asking you seriously then: why did nobody EVER declare us essential workers before this. Ever. Anywhere in the country.

Because we are not! Essential employees are there to maintain life. Health, food, water, safety, etc. Contrary to what some people say here, school doesn't keep you alive on a daily basis - you can live without it. Children who have survived floods, hurricanes, and war didn't die after missing 4 day, weeks or months of school. If it were truly essential to life, we would be in school over the summer and on the weekend.

How can anyone say education is not essential to maintain life?

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Anonymous wrote:I'm quite perplexed why parents who are especially risk averse and virus-phobic are so adamant that parents and teachers who don't share their perspective shouldn't be allowed to return to school in person, so long as there is an opt out for parents who want to continue full-time DL.

It’s “if I can’t have it, I don’t want you to have it either.” Ive absolutely heard that from a vocal APS DL family.

At its heart, of course this is what it is.

Yep. It’s Fomo. And they don’t want to send their kids back, but don’t want to have to tell their kids they won’t let them go back, so they try and keep everyone down

This.

Or we just understand the risks and want the schools to mitigate properly...

I personally picked hybrid, but I’m not into stupid, “right now” hybrid that gets shut down again. The DL people didn’t feel like fighting with you. I have trusted APS to be smart about it. I hope they don’t cave to nonsense.

Exactly. We picked hybrid. I want my kids to go back as soon as they can - safely.

Not in the middle of a surge. And not without testing, filters, etc.

Then request to switch to virtual when and if hybrid rolls out. Worst case you finish the year virtually and go back in person in the fall. Realistically, if they’re not back in schools by spring break, it doesn’t make sense to go back this year at all, so you won’t be missing much compared to what you might deem acceptable.

I don’t want virtual. I want APS to take necessary steps to open schools safely so I can send my kids back now.

Except you just said you don’t want to go back now because there’s a surge. APS can’t control the surge.

Yes, it’d be dumb to open in a surge. Wait a month or two and open safely this semester. Take this time to get the air filters and contract with a local lab. I would have sent my kids in the fall if they had implemented sufficient safety measures then as other schools have done.

None of us are getting what we want right now, so it’s time to put on your big girl pants and cope.

It’s not that complicated. I want APS schools to open as soon as reasonably possible with proper safety measures in place. I want my kids back in the classroom.

Air filters in all classrooms
Testing entrance and surveillance
Masks N95

Other schools are doing this. APS should have done this in the fall.

If they do entrance testing they could potentially even open during the surge.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:And 40% of teachers don’t want to go back. The questionnaire was flawed. If you didn’t have any reason preventing you from returning (health issue yourself, in your family, or child care concern) then the only option was “I want to go back”. There was no “I don’t feel safe but I am not at risk or have childcare concerns”.

I think this goes back to the essential workers debate. Teachers *should* be essential workers, and therefore this questionnaire makes complete sense. And if childcare concerns is a reason, that's pretty impressive. Most essential workers with students learning from home for the past several months probably didn't have that same option.

I’m asking you seriously then: why did nobody EVER declare us essential workers before this. Ever. Anywhere in the country.

Because we are not! Essential employees are there to maintain life. Health, food, water, safety, etc. Contrary to what some people say here, school doesn't keep you alive on a daily basis - you can live without it. Children who have survived floods, hurricanes, and war didn't die after missing 4 day, weeks or months of school. If it were truly essential to life, we would be in school over the summer and on the weekend.

How can anyone say education is not essential to maintain life?

Because it’s not. You die without water. You don’t die learning online for a little while .

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:And 40% of teachers don’t want to go back. The questionnaire was flawed. If you didn’t have any reason preventing you from returning (health issue yourself, in your family, or child care concern) then the only option was “I want to go back”. There was no “I don’t feel safe but I am not at risk or have childcare concerns”.

I think this goes back to the essential workers debate. Teachers *should* be essential workers, and therefore this questionnaire makes complete sense. And if childcare concerns is a reason, that's pretty impressive. Most essential workers with students learning from home for the past several months probably didn't have that same option.

I’m asking you seriously then: why did nobody EVER declare us essential workers before this. Ever. Anywhere in the country.

Because we are not! Essential employees are there to maintain life. Health, food, water, safety, etc. Contrary to what some people say here, school doesn't keep you alive on a daily basis - you can live without it. Children who have survived floods, hurricanes, and war didn't die after missing 4 day, weeks or months of school. If it were truly essential to life, we would be in school over the summer and on the weekend.

How can anyone say education is not essential to maintain life?

Because it’s not. You die without water. You don’t die learning online for a little while .

But North Arlington Wine Moms might die without thirsty yoga time!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:And 40% of teachers don’t want to go back. The questionnaire was flawed. If you didn’t have any reason preventing you from returning (health issue yourself, in your family, or child care concern) then the only option was “I want to go back”. There was no “I don’t feel safe but I am not at risk or have childcare concerns”.

I think this goes back to the essential workers debate. Teachers *should* be essential workers, and therefore this questionnaire makes complete sense. And if childcare concerns is a reason, that's pretty impressive. Most essential workers with students learning from home for the past several months probably didn't have that same option.

I’m asking you seriously then: why did nobody EVER declare us essential workers before this. Ever. Anywhere in the country.

Because we are not! Essential employees are there to maintain life. Health, food, water, safety, etc. Contrary to what some people say here, school doesn't keep you alive on a daily basis - you can live without it. Children who have survived floods, hurricanes, and war didn't die after missing 4 day, weeks or months of school. If it were truly essential to life, we would be in school over the summer and on the weekend.

How can anyone say education is not essential to maintain life?

Because it’s not. You die without water. You don’t die learning online for a little while .

But North Arlington Wine Moms might die without thirsty yoga time!

You would know.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm quite perplexed why parents who are especially risk averse and virus-phobic are so adamant that parents and teachers who don't share their perspective shouldn't be allowed to return to school in person, so long as there is an opt out for parents who want to continue full-time DL.

It’s “if I can’t have it, I don’t want you to have it either.” Ive absolutely heard that from a vocal APS DL family.

At its heart, of course this is what it is.

Yep. It’s Fomo. And they don’t want to send their kids back, but don’t want to have to tell their kids they won’t let them go back, so they try and keep everyone down

This.

Or we just understand the risks and want the schools to mitigate properly...

I personally picked hybrid, but I’m not into stupid, “right now” hybrid that gets shut down again. The DL people didn’t feel like fighting with you. I have trusted APS to be smart about it. I hope they don’t cave to nonsense.

Exactly. We picked hybrid. I want my kids to go back as soon as they can - safely.

Not in the middle of a surge. And not without testing, filters, etc.

Then request to switch to virtual when and if hybrid rolls out. Worst case you finish the year virtually and go back in person in the fall. Realistically, if they’re not back in schools by spring break, it doesn’t make sense to go back this year at all, so you won’t be missing much compared to what you might deem acceptable.

I don’t want virtual. I want APS to take necessary steps to open schools safely so I can send my kids back now.

Except you just said you don’t want to go back now because there’s a surge. APS can’t control the surge.

Yes, it’d be dumb to open in a surge. Wait a month or two and open safely this semester. Take this time to get the air filters and contract with a local lab. I would have sent my kids in the fall if they had implemented sufficient safety measures then as other schools have done.

None of us are getting what we want right now, so it’s time to put on your big girl pants and cope.

Was this post written by an algorithm?

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Anonymous wrote:I'm quite perplexed why parents who are especially risk averse and virus-phobic are so adamant that parents and teachers who don't share their perspective shouldn't be allowed to return to school in person, so long as there is an opt out for parents who want to continue full-time DL.

It’s “if I can’t have it, I don’t want you to have it either.” Ive absolutely heard that from a vocal APS DL family.

At its heart, of course this is what it is.

Yep. It’s Fomo. And they don’t want to send their kids back, but don’t want to have to tell their kids they won’t let them go back, so they try and keep everyone down

This.

Or we just understand the risks and want the schools to mitigate properly...

I personally picked hybrid, but I’m not into stupid, “right now” hybrid that gets shut down again. The DL people didn’t feel like fighting with you. I have trusted APS to be smart about it. I hope they don’t cave to nonsense.

Exactly. We picked hybrid. I want my kids to go back as soon as they can - safely.

Not in the middle of a surge. And not without testing, filters, etc.

Then request to switch to virtual when and if hybrid rolls out. Worst case you finish the year virtually and go back in person in the fall. Realistically, if they’re not back in schools by spring break, it doesn’t make sense to go back this year at all, so you won’t be missing much compared to what you might deem acceptable.

I don’t want virtual. I want APS to take necessary steps to open schools safely so I can send my kids back now.

Except you just said you don’t want to go back now because there’s a surge. APS can’t control the surge.

Yes, it’d be dumb to open in a surge. Wait a month or two and open safely this semester. Take this time to get the air filters and contract with a local lab. I would have sent my kids in the fall if they had implemented sufficient safety measures then as other schools have done.

None of us are getting what we want right now, so it’s time to put on your big girl pants and cope.

Was this post written by an algorithm?

Do you have the cognitive capacity to do anything but insult posters when you disagree with them?

[Anonymous]

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Yes, it’d be dumb to open in a surge. Wait a month or two and open safely this semester. Take this time to get the air filters and contract with a local lab. I would have sent my kids in the fall if they had implemented sufficient safety measures then as other schools have done.

Oh please - that's what people say every single week! There has been a surge like every other day according to them '
summer vacation surge!
labor day surge!
halloween surge!
Thanksgiving surge!
variant surge!

Next week it will be cold weather surge!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Yes, it’d be dumb to open in a surge. Wait a month or two and open safely this semester. Take this time to get the air filters and contract with a local lab. I would have sent my kids in the fall if they had implemented sufficient safety measures then as other schools have done.

Oh please - that's what people say every single week! There has been a surge like every other day according to them '
summer vacation surge!
labor day surge!
halloween surge!
Thanksgiving surge!
variant surge!

Next week it will be cold weather surge!

No, it’s called a Christmas holiday surge and that is why our community is in a high risk category for returning to school. COVID numbers are growing exponentially. I can see why you are desperate to get your kids back to school - because it’s too hard for you to teach them things like math, science and critical reasoning.

https://www.vdh.virginia.gov/coronavirus/key-measures/pandemic-metrics/school-metrics/

[Anonymous]

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Yes, it’d be dumb to open in a surge. Wait a month or two and open safely this semester. Take this time to get the air filters and contract with a local lab. I would have sent my kids in the fall if they had implemented sufficient safety measures then as other schools have done.

Oh please - that's what people say every single week! There has been a surge like every other day according to them '
summer vacation surge!
labor day surge!
halloween surge!
Thanksgiving surge!
variant surge!

Next week it will be cold weather surge!

The surges are visible on the city's case graph.

https://www.alexandriava.gov/performance/info/dashboard.aspx?id=114883