s/o - Is TJ verifying FARMS status for kids in the class of 2025?

[Anonymous]

The class of 2025 was 25% FARMs. (Also based on the free meals for all questions, so highly unlikely to be true.) Are current freshmen at risk of being asked to verify?

[Anonymous]

Why do you care?

[Anonymous]

Students weren’t receiving free meals at application time last year unless they walked/drove to pick them up.

So very unlikely there was much abuse of those questions. If they even asked them last year.

Although cheaters will always look for ways to cheat.

[Anonymous]

They should’ve verified status of “eligibility” regardless if students actually received the free/reduced price meals because those kids got an admissions advantage. If you’re eligible, then students meet the criteria for economically disadvantaged which under the new controversial admissions policy, gives those students bonus points and a leg up in gaining acceptance

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Students weren’t receiving free meals at application time last year unless they walked/drove to pick them up.

So very unlikely there was much abuse of those questions. If they even asked them last year.

Although cheaters will always look for ways to cheat.

Yes. The question was asked last year for the class of 2025 and I don’t believe any verification was done for applicants, those accepted nor the students on the waitlist

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Students weren’t receiving free meals at application time last year unless they walked/drove to pick them up.

So very unlikely there was much abuse of those questions. If they even asked them last year.

Although cheaters will always look for ways to cheat.

Yes. The question was asked last year for the class of 2025 and I don’t believe any verification was done for applicants, those accepted nor the students on the waitlist

Because the prep academies had not yet figured out to instruct their students to answer yes as they did this year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Students weren’t receiving free meals at application time last year unless they walked/drove to pick them up.

So very unlikely there was much abuse of those questions. If they even asked them last year.

Although cheaters will always look for ways to cheat.

Yes. The question was asked last year for the class of 2025 and I don’t believe any verification was done for applicants, those accepted nor the students on the waitlist

Because the prep academies had not yet figured out to instruct their students to answer yes as they did this year.

Here comes the next lawsuit . . .

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Students weren’t receiving free meals at application time last year unless they walked/drove to pick them up.

So very unlikely there was much abuse of those questions. If they even asked them last year.

Although cheaters will always look for ways to cheat.

Yes. The question was asked last year for the class of 2025 and I don’t believe any verification was done for applicants, those accepted nor the students on the waitlist

Because the prep academies had not yet figured out to instruct their students to answer yes as they did this year.

Bingo.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Students weren’t receiving free meals at application time last year unless they walked/drove to pick them up.

So very unlikely there was much abuse of those questions. If they even asked them last year.

Although cheaters will always look for ways to cheat.

Yes. The question was asked last year for the class of 2025 and I don’t believe any verification was done for applicants, those accepted nor the students on the waitlist

Because the prep academies had not yet figured out to instruct their students to answer yes as they did this year.

Here comes the next lawsuit . . .

Think the families who were advised to say yes will sue the prep businesses.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Students weren’t receiving free meals at application time last year unless they walked/drove to pick them up.

So very unlikely there was much abuse of those questions. If they even asked them last year.

Although cheaters will always look for ways to cheat.

Yes. The question was asked last year for the class of 2025 and I don’t believe any verification was done for applicants, those accepted nor the students on the waitlist

Because the prep academies had not yet figured out to instruct their students to answer yes as they did this year.

Here comes the next lawsuit . . .

There is nothing technically wrong in answering yes. The question was in the parents' section so nothing will be in the student's record. The admissions people belatedly realized that they were not properly calculating the "financial hardship" experience factor so had to ask for additional info.

Think the families who were advised to say yes will sue the prep businesses.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Students weren’t receiving free meals at application time last year unless they walked/drove to pick them up.

So very unlikely there was much abuse of those questions. If they even asked them last year.

Although cheaters will always look for ways to cheat.

Yes. The question was asked last year for the class of 2025 and I don’t believe any verification was done for applicants, those accepted nor the students on the waitlist

Because the prep academies had not yet figured out to instruct their students to answer yes as they did this year.

It's great their rooting out these cheaters.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Students weren’t receiving free meals at application time last year unless they walked/drove to pick them up.

So very unlikely there was much abuse of those questions. If they even asked them last year.

Although cheaters will always look for ways to cheat.

Yes. The question was asked last year for the class of 2025 and I don’t believe any verification was done for applicants, those accepted nor the students on the waitlist

Because the prep academies had not yet figured out to instruct their students to answer yes as they did this year.

Here comes the next lawsuit . . .

There is nothing technically wrong in answering yes. The question was in the parents' section so nothing will be in the student's record. The admissions people belatedly realized that they were not properly calculating the "financial hardship" experience factor so had to ask for additional info.

Think the families who were advised to say yes will sue the prep businesses.

I’m sure that is what the TJ prep places will say to CYA.

It was clear to everyone who wasn’t trying to cheat the system that it was wrong.

[Anonymous]

25% FARMS is not necessarily evidence of cheating.
They give 90 points bonus. Imagine they gave 900 points of bonus. The FARMS rate would be 100%.
The 90 points might be just a huge advantage, with GPA just affecting 37.5 points.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:25% FARMS is not necessarily evidence of cheating.
They give 90 points bonus. Imagine they gave 900 points of bonus. The FARMS rate would be 100%.
The 90 points might be just a huge advantage, with GPA just affecting 37.5 points.

They used the same questions for the class of 2025.

They did not verify.

It is logical to think that there was plenty of "cheating" as well. They should go back and ask families to verify. But they likely never will.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:25% FARMS is not necessarily evidence of cheating.
They give 90 points bonus. Imagine they gave 900 points of bonus. The FARMS rate would be 100%.
The 90 points might be just a huge advantage, with GPA just affecting 37.5 points.

But it’s small compared to the 600 points from the essay/portrait. “Funny” how you always leave those points out.