Gaza War, Part 3

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"No single loaf of bread" from these crazy Israelis blocking aid into Gaza.

I wish it was just a few crazies, but as per this CNN report, 68% of Jewish Israelis are against allowing humanitarian aid into Gaza.

https://www.cnn.com/videos/world/2024/03/08/kerem-shalom-protesters-aid-gaza-israel-ward-pkg-lead-vpx.cnn

In a symbolic act, these Israelis filled their cars with needed supplies and tried to make their way to the Kerem Shalom crossing.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/in-show-of-solidarity-israeli-activists-attempt-to-deliver-aid-to-civilians-in-gaza/

Do remember that there are still Israelis being held hostage by Gazans. The IDF wants aid to be delivered effectively because they want to finish the war and avoid having the war effort hindered by the humanitarian crisis, but the Israeli public, especially the hostages' families, are not unreasonable in pointing out that it is deeply hypocritical for the international community to send aid to their relatives' torturers.

If your 25 year-old daughter was being kept as a sex slave in a cage in a tunnel in Gaza, you would have something to say about aid deliveries to the people who jeered and spat at her as she was paraded through the streets with a bloody crotch, or to the UNRWA teacher who abducted her, or to the "civilians" who returned her to Hamas after she tried to escape.

All that said, I think aid deliveries should go through if it can be determined that they will not be redirected toward Hamas's war effort. But you should not find it remarkable that the actual people who have been terrorized by terrorists would have objections to support for the terrorists' allies and enablers.

So you wouldn’t want the hostage to eat neither?


Dumb take. Israel is so disconnected from the hostages it’s scary. They are Gazan citizens right now too and they want to be safe and to be fed.

Israel is literally fighting a war to save their hostages. IDF men and women are bravely and unquestioningly fighting, and during, to bring the hostages home.

But yes, Israel does not want to open their prisons and release more Hamas monsters into the world and prolong the war. During the earlier ceasefire, it was a sad reality that they had to make this trade because most of the hostages were women and children, but now with most of the hostages remaining being IDF soldiers, trading viscous, rightfully imprisoned hardened Hamas militants does not make sense.

It is on Hamas to immediately release every single hostage, and unconditional surrender. Until then the IDF will continue their efforts to save hostages, target military infrastructure, and continue their humanitarian-minded war effort.

Hello, the "god literally personally promised us this land!" poster.

Brave IDF men and women below. I know, it takes major guts to try on someone else's panties and post the idiot thing online too:

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I like how you added the detail about sex salve. None of the hostages have said they were sex slaves for Hamas. In fact, the woman who said she could feel her captor “ raping her with his eyes” got a free nose job in Israel because she’s so bummed that Hamas didn’t touch her . I’ve never seen a country actually want their women to be raped before. A dead woman was made into a rape victim by the Nytimes by an Israeli female reporter .

Hamas doesn’t have to rape to be a monster. Taking hostages is already a monstrous act

You don't get it. Despite protestations, Israelis are desperate, desperate for any evidence of rape, the more brutal the better, to show around. They are weaponizing these stories to their advantage (note the timing of the rape announcements right after the IJC session). They know it taps into a sensitive spot in any Western heart when they hear terrible stories of dirty unwashed barbarians desecrating the white flower of the master ladies. You've heard this story with the black men and white women too. Wars have been fought on lesser charges. You see, these Arabs are dirty unwashed terrorist rapists. We are so right to take everything from them. Look what they do. Look what we have to live with.

Reality is that the "barbarian" women had much more to fear from the master race men than vice versa.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I like how you added the detail about sex salve. None of the hostages have said they were sex slaves for Hamas. In fact, the woman who said she could feel her captor “ raping her with his eyes” got a free nose job in Israel because she’s so bummed that Hamas didn’t touch her . I’ve never seen a country actually want their women to be raped before. A dead woman was made into a rape victim by the Nytimes by an Israeli female reporter .

Hamas doesn’t have to rape to be a monster. Taking hostages is already a monstrous act

You don't get it. Despite protestations, Israelis are desperate, desperate for any evidence of rape, the more brutal the better, to show around. They are weaponizing these stories to their advantage (note the timing of the rape announcements right after the IJC session). They know it taps into a sensitive spot in any Western heart when they hear terrible stories of dirty unwashed barbarians desecrating the white flower of the master ladies. You've heard this story with the black men and white women too. Wars have been fought on lesser charges. You see, these Arabs are dirty unwashed terrorist rapists. We are so right to take everything from them. Look what they do. Look what we have to live with.

Reality is that the "barbarian" women had much more to fear from the master race men than vice versa.

If I were a hostage, right now, I’d be afraid of Israel more than I would be of Hamas.

. The woman who said her captor “raped her with his eyes” (why didn’t he rape her with his body?) even said the only reason she believes she wasn’t raped is because her captor was married . As if that ever stopped a man before or Hamas is just so moral. It’s like she’s trying to process what she’s been taught or expected about Hamas (violent, brutish, rapist) with what actually happened and her conclusion was she wasn’t hot enough to be raped smh .

They slept together in the same room for three months and he didn’t touch her.

She should thank her lucky stars.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"No single loaf of bread" from these crazy Israelis blocking aid into Gaza.

I wish it was just a few crazies, but as per this CNN report, 68% of Jewish Israelis are against allowing humanitarian aid into Gaza.

https://www.cnn.com/videos/world/2024/03/08/kerem-shalom-protesters-aid-gaza-israel-ward-pkg-lead-vpx.cnn

In a symbolic act, these Israelis filled their cars with needed supplies and tried to make their way to the Kerem Shalom crossing.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/in-show-of-solidarity-israeli-activists-attempt-to-deliver-aid-to-civilians-in-gaza/

Do remember that there are still Israelis being held hostage by Gazans. The IDF wants aid to be delivered effectively because they want to finish the war and avoid having the war effort hindered by the humanitarian crisis, but the Israeli public, especially the hostages' families, are not unreasonable in pointing out that it is deeply hypocritical for the international community to send aid to their relatives' torturers.

If your 25 year-old daughter was being kept as a sex slave in a cage in a tunnel in Gaza, you would have something to say about aid deliveries to the people who jeered and spat at her as she was paraded through the streets with a bloody crotch, or to the UNRWA teacher who abducted her, or to the "civilians" who returned her to Hamas after she tried to escape.

All that said, I think aid deliveries should go through if it can be determined that they will not be redirected toward Hamas's war effort. But you should not find it remarkable that the actual people who have been terrorized by terrorists would have objections to support for the terrorists' allies and enablers.

So you wouldn’t want the hostage to eat neither?


Dumb take. Israel is so disconnected from the hostages it’s scary. They are Gazan citizens right now too and they want to be safe and to be fed.

Israel is literally fighting a war to save their hostages. IDF men and women are bravely and unquestioningly fighting, and during, to bring the hostages home.

But yes, Israel does not want to open their prisons and release more Hamas monsters into the world and prolong the war. During the earlier ceasefire, it was a sad reality that they had to make this trade because most of the hostages were women and children, but now with most of the hostages remaining being IDF soldiers, trading viscous, rightfully imprisoned hardened Hamas militants does not make sense.

It is on Hamas to immediately release every single hostage, and unconditional surrender. Until then the IDF will continue their efforts to save hostages, target military infrastructure, and continue their humanitarian-minded war effort.

Hello, the "god literally personally promised us this land!" poster.

Brave IDF men and women below. I know, it takes major guts to try on someone else's panties and post the idiot thing online too:

That’s so nice they took the time to play dress up. What an army of chads !

The tunnels with the big boys are too big and scary .

Some of the bastards are even taking high heels , engagement and wedding rings and bringing it to their girlfriends in Israel like trophies at the fun fair. How do these women not feel insulted by that? Hand me downs from a dead or evacuated woman doesn’t sound really romantic

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The New Yorker has provided great coverage about this crisis .

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2024/03/04/israel-west-bank-settlers-attacks-palestinians

On October 28, 2023, Bilal Saleh woke early to prepare for the olive harvest in the village of al-Sawiya. He knew it was risky. A couple of days earlier, farmers had returned from their olive groves in the nearby village of Deir Istiya to find flyers on their cars that read, “You wanted war, now wait for the great Nakba. . . . This is your last chance to escape to Jordan in an orderly fashion before we forcibly expel you from our holy lands, which were given to us by God.” Since October 7th, messages in settler chat groups had portrayed olive pickers as undercover Hamas operatives and as Nazis. Elmaliach, the mayor of Eli, which is a mile and a half from al-Sawiya, sent around a sign-up sheet calling for the “full mobilization” of his residents “to stand up to the Arabs who try to harvest around our settlements.”

Saleh, who was forty, kept his opinions to himself and avoided protests. But the land had been in his family for generations. He’d recently left his job at a hotel in Tel Aviv and had been selling herbs on the streets of Ramallah. Without the olive harvest, he’d be stretched thin. He and his friends and relatives chose a Saturday to pick olives, because it was the Jewish Sabbath, a day when the Orthodox settlers were likely to be in synagogue or resting.

Saleh loaded up his family’s donkey and walked with his wife and kids through their village, across from the road where Israelis-only buses took settlers to their jobs, and down to their plot of trees. The settlement of Rehelim looked down on them from less than half a mile away. They put a tarp down under a tree and started picking.

At around 10:30 a.m., Saleh’s friend Sami Kafineh was driving back to al-Sawiya from Nablus. Just before he reached the village, he noticed four men, dressed in white, walking from Rehelim toward the olive grove. He pulled over and shouted that settlers were approaching.

People who were in the grove told me that, as soon as Bilal Saleh realized that the settlers were coming, he hurried his wife and children to safety, leaving their belongings behind. As they walked to the road, Saleh, realizing he’d left his phone behind, turned back. He returned to the plot, picked up his phone, and was shot.

This is so tragic and has been going on since before Israel's inception. The Irgun and other Zionist terrorist groups, of which the settlers are one, have been killing and abusing Palestinians for decades with a view to stealing their land and property. These settlers sound like the Ku Klux Klan and obviously want genocide. I hope this murder will be treated as the hate crime it is -- a brutal homicide that left Saleh's children without a father and his wife a widow.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I like how you added the detail about sex salve. None of the hostages have said they were sex slaves for Hamas. In fact, the woman who said she could feel her captor “ raping her with his eyes” got a free nose job in Israel because she’s so bummed that Hamas didn’t touch her . I’ve never seen a country actually want their women to be raped before. A dead woman was made into a rape victim by the Nytimes by an Israeli female reporter .

Hamas doesn’t have to rape to be a monster. Taking hostages is already a monstrous act

You don't get it. Despite protestations, Israelis are desperate, desperate for any evidence of rape, the more brutal the better, to show around. They are weaponizing these stories to their advantage (note the timing of the rape announcements right after the IJC session). They know it taps into a sensitive spot in any Western heart when they hear terrible stories of dirty unwashed barbarians desecrating the white flower of the master ladies. You've heard this story with the black men and white women too. Wars have been fought on lesser charges. You see, these Arabs are dirty unwashed terrorist rapists. We are so right to take everything from them. Look what they do. Look what we have to live with.

Reality is that the "barbarian" women had much more to fear from the master race men than vice versa.

True. Zionist terrorists have weaponized rape against Palestinian women from the start. It was part of their plan of ethnically cleansing Palestinians.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Then settlers rewrote the story. In a statement, Yossi Dagan, the head of the settlers’ regional council whose area of authority includes Rehelim, said that a combat soldier on leave had been “attacked by tens of Hamasniks.” The harvest around Israeli settlements had to be stopped, he said, because it was “being used as a platform for terrorism.” Settlers later shared an image from Saleh’s funeral, in which his brother, Hisham, is waving a Hamas flag. Shortly afterward, Israeli police arrested Hisham. Polls show that support for Hamas in the West Bank, where dissatisfaction with the Palestinian Authority is widespread, has risen from twelve per cent to forty-four per cent in recent months. Seventy-two per cent of Palestinians polled also said that they thought the October 7th attack was “correct.” (Ninety-four per cent of Israelis think that the I.D.F. is using either an appropriate or an insufficient amount of force in Gaza.)

We don’t have any hope,” Bilal’s cousin Hazem Saleh told me. He pointed toward some new houses in the village. Their owners didn’t intend for them “to be demolished or bombed,” he said. “They are not calling for fighting, or killing, or war. But when they are afraid to go out, when they don’t have the minimum standard of living, when they are pressured, their reaction will be the same as the action.”

Hisham Saleh spent three months in jail, without charges, for waving the Hamas flag. The settler who shot Bilal was arrested, and released a few days later. “We are happy that the court decided from the beginning that that was self-defense,” his lawyer, Nati Rom, told me. The judge had cited the events of October 7th, writing, “The vigilance to which we are commanded by the blood of our brothers and sisters who fell for the sanctity of the land and the defense of the homeland is a real obligation.”

Rom said that, to his knowledge, no other settlers had faced charges since October 7th. Settler violence was “fake news,” he said.

Saleh’s shooter was back in the Army, so I visited one of his neighbors, a forty-six-year-old woman named Reuma Harari. At the gate of Rehelim, soldiers took my passport, then security escorted me to Harari’s house. Her back yard was a suburban idyll: a swing set on an AstroTurf lawn, an oak tree, a small dog; Tel Aviv was only forty minutes away, if the traffic was light. She offered me a seat under an olive tree. “Ironic,” she said, chuckling.

So this murderous POS is "back in the Army," armed to the teeth, and free to kill many more Salehs with complete impunity? And he was praised by the racist judge? What hope is there for a peaceful solution when this is Israeli "justice"? I understand the Palestinians' outrage.

You’re right, but I always find it fascinating how the pro-Israel position is that the Palestinians should either move on or die by Israel’s rules, i.e., take on a squadron of F-35s with their bare hands, that’s the only path for fighting back. I mean, really they want the natives to just die already - but if they insist on resistance, anything other than facing the IDF with their “dukes up” is mocked as cowardly terrorism by the most cowardly, inept armed forces in the world.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m amazed at how most (not all) Jewish people are completely uncritical of Israel and they are completely unaware of their biases.
They don’t even realize that they think of Palestinians as inferior but it is fully obvious that in their minds Palestinians are subhuman and their lives are not worth much.

I've seen this DARVO behavior. Abusers need to denigrate and blame their victims; this helps them avoid guilt and consequences. They project their own worst characteristics onto their victims. It's a typical projection mechanism of narcissistic sociopaths.

[Anonymous]

Exactly. Since its inception, Israel has operated along these lines: I punch you in the face, I disparage your wife and kids, I kill your dog, I steal your wallet and your home, and then when you understandably fight back in outrage, I kill you in "self-defense". That's it. I mean, it's essentially that simple (and sad).

Yes, this is what every Jew and every Israeli has always believed since the beginning of time, because I, as a non-Jew and non-Israeli just made it up 5 minutes ago.

/s

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Then settlers rewrote the story. In a statement, Yossi Dagan, the head of the settlers’ regional council whose area of authority includes Rehelim, said that a combat soldier on leave had been “attacked by tens of Hamasniks.” The harvest around Israeli settlements had to be stopped, he said, because it was “being used as a platform for terrorism.” Settlers later shared an image from Saleh’s funeral, in which his brother, Hisham, is waving a Hamas flag. Shortly afterward, Israeli police arrested Hisham. Polls show that support for Hamas in the West Bank, where dissatisfaction with the Palestinian Authority is widespread, has risen from twelve per cent to forty-four per cent in recent months. Seventy-two per cent of Palestinians polled also said that they thought the October 7th attack was “correct.” (Ninety-four per cent of Israelis think that the I.D.F. is using either an appropriate or an insufficient amount of force in Gaza.)

We don’t have any hope,” Bilal’s cousin Hazem Saleh told me. He pointed toward some new houses in the village. Their owners didn’t intend for them “to be demolished or bombed,” he said. “They are not calling for fighting, or killing, or war. But when they are afraid to go out, when they don’t have the minimum standard of living, when they are pressured, their reaction will be the same as the action.”

Hisham Saleh spent three months in jail, without charges, for waving the Hamas flag. The settler who shot Bilal was arrested, and released a few days later. “We are happy that the court decided from the beginning that that was self-defense,” his lawyer, Nati Rom, told me. The judge had cited the events of October 7th, writing, “The vigilance to which we are commanded by the blood of our brothers and sisters who fell for the sanctity of the land and the defense of the homeland is a real obligation.”

Rom said that, to his knowledge, no other settlers had faced charges since October 7th. Settler violence was “fake news,” he said.

Saleh’s shooter was back in the Army, so I visited one of his neighbors, a forty-six-year-old woman named Reuma Harari. At the gate of Rehelim, soldiers took my passport, then security escorted me to Harari’s house. Her back yard was a suburban idyll: a swing set on an AstroTurf lawn, an oak tree, a small dog; Tel Aviv was only forty minutes away, if the traffic was light. She offered me a seat under an olive tree. “Ironic,” she said, chuckling.

So this murderous POS is "back in the Army," armed to the teeth, and free to kill many more Salehs with complete impunity? And he was praised by the racist judge? What hope is there for a peaceful solution when this is Israeli "justice"? I understand the Palestinians' outrage.

You’re right, but I always find it fascinating how the pro-Israel position is that the Palestinians should either move on or die by Israel’s rules, i.e., take on a squadron of F-35s with their bare hands, that’s the only path for fighting back. I mean, really they want the natives to just die already - but if they insist on resistance, anything other than facing the IDF with their “dukes up” is mocked as cowardly terrorism by the most cowardly, inept armed forces in the world.

Their greed is limitless . Even if everyone Palestinian in the West Bank went to Jordan overnight , the settlers would suddenly need Jordan as well. It’s been going on for years quietly . The Israeli fence moves ever so slightly each year into Jordanian territory and Jordan River gets taken entirely by Israel from landlocked Jordan but Jordan doesn’t make a fuss about it because their leaders are rational

It’s how the settlers think. The line doesn’t stop at Palestine and all the Arab countries know it. They are also rather jealous of what the poverty stricken Palestinian farmers are able to achieve on the land and that’s why they steal their harvests and tear down olive trees and build settlements on Palestinian springs or wells so that Palestinians have to buy water from Israelis . It’s a very mean spirited type of bullying and if I were Palestinian, I would probably be fed up and support a Hamas too. The mealy mouthed grandfatherly figure of Mahmoud Abbas is weak and not a symbol of any sort of strong leadership for Palestinians

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"No single loaf of bread" from these crazy Israelis blocking aid into Gaza.

I wish it was just a few crazies, but as per this CNN report, 68% of Jewish Israelis are against allowing humanitarian aid into Gaza.

https://www.cnn.com/videos/world/2024/03/08/kerem-shalom-protesters-aid-gaza-israel-ward-pkg-lead-vpx.cnn

In a symbolic act, these Israelis filled their cars with needed supplies and tried to make their way to the Kerem Shalom crossing.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/in-show-of-solidarity-israeli-activists-attempt-to-deliver-aid-to-civilians-in-gaza/

Do remember that there are still Israelis being held hostage by Gazans. The IDF wants aid to be delivered effectively because they want to finish the war and avoid having the war effort hindered by the humanitarian crisis, but the Israeli public, especially the hostages' families, are not unreasonable in pointing out that it is deeply hypocritical for the international community to send aid to their relatives' torturers.

If your 25 year-old daughter was being kept as a sex slave in a cage in a tunnel in Gaza, you would have something to say about aid deliveries to the people who jeered and spat at her as she was paraded through the streets with a bloody crotch, or to the UNRWA teacher who abducted her, or to the "civilians" who returned her to Hamas after she tried to escape.

All that said, I think aid deliveries should go through if it can be determined that they will not be redirected toward Hamas's war effort. But you should not find it remarkable that the actual people who have been terrorized by terrorists would have objections to support for the terrorists' allies and enablers.

No. The IDF is there to kill Palestinians. If you are trying to free the hostages you negotiate. If you do not care about the hostages you level the city where the hostages are being held, issue standing orders to shoot all civilians, bomb hospitals, etc. When you do what the Israelis have done are not trying to free anyone.

[Anonymous]

What’s even sadder about the case of Mr Saleh above is he actually worked at a hotel in Tel Aviv . That takes such courage to work for the same people who make your life miserable.

But making the Palestinians their slaves is what Israel wants. They can’t be that afraid of terrorism if they let West Bankers into Israel daily for work. It’s fine if they’re in the service industry to Israelis

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Then settlers rewrote the story. In a statement, Yossi Dagan, the head of the settlers’ regional council whose area of authority includes Rehelim, said that a combat soldier on leave had been “attacked by tens of Hamasniks.” The harvest around Israeli settlements had to be stopped, he said, because it was “being used as a platform for terrorism.” Settlers later shared an image from Saleh’s funeral, in which his brother, Hisham, is waving a Hamas flag. Shortly afterward, Israeli police arrested Hisham. Polls show that support for Hamas in the West Bank, where dissatisfaction with the Palestinian Authority is widespread, has risen from twelve per cent to forty-four per cent in recent months. Seventy-two per cent of Palestinians polled also said that they thought the October 7th attack was “correct.” (Ninety-four per cent of Israelis think that the I.D.F. is using either an appropriate or an insufficient amount of force in Gaza.)

We don’t have any hope,” Bilal’s cousin Hazem Saleh told me. He pointed toward some new houses in the village. Their owners didn’t intend for them “to be demolished or bombed,” he said. “They are not calling for fighting, or killing, or war. But when they are afraid to go out, when they don’t have the minimum standard of living, when they are pressured, their reaction will be the same as the action.”

Hisham Saleh spent three months in jail, without charges, for waving the Hamas flag. The settler who shot Bilal was arrested, and released a few days later. “We are happy that the court decided from the beginning that that was self-defense,” his lawyer, Nati Rom, told me. The judge had cited the events of October 7th, writing, “The vigilance to which we are commanded by the blood of our brothers and sisters who fell for the sanctity of the land and the defense of the homeland is a real obligation.”

Rom said that, to his knowledge, no other settlers had faced charges since October 7th. Settler violence was “fake news,” he said.

Saleh’s shooter was back in the Army, so I visited one of his neighbors, a forty-six-year-old woman named Reuma Harari. At the gate of Rehelim, soldiers took my passport, then security escorted me to Harari’s house. Her back yard was a suburban idyll: a swing set on an AstroTurf lawn, an oak tree, a small dog; Tel Aviv was only forty minutes away, if the traffic was light. She offered me a seat under an olive tree. “Ironic,” she said, chuckling.

They literally have a video of this guy’s brother waving a Hamas flag, and you wonder why this happened?

Who do we believe here, the Israeli government, and peaceful civilians whose sole crime was moving to a new home, or the family of a dead man who clearly was, at the very least, loosely affiliated with Hamas, an organization’s whose primary goal is the eradication of Jews in Israel. It really should not be a hard decision, and yet American leftist neon axis seem to struggle with it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"No single loaf of bread" from these crazy Israelis blocking aid into Gaza.

I wish it was just a few crazies, but as per this CNN report, 68% of Jewish Israelis are against allowing humanitarian aid into Gaza.

https://www.cnn.com/videos/world/2024/03/08/kerem-shalom-protesters-aid-gaza-israel-ward-pkg-lead-vpx.cnn

In a symbolic act, these Israelis filled their cars with needed supplies and tried to make their way to the Kerem Shalom crossing.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/in-show-of-solidarity-israeli-activists-attempt-to-deliver-aid-to-civilians-in-gaza/

Do remember that there are still Israelis being held hostage by Gazans. The IDF wants aid to be delivered effectively because they want to finish the war and avoid having the war effort hindered by the humanitarian crisis, but the Israeli public, especially the hostages' families, are not unreasonable in pointing out that it is deeply hypocritical for the international community to send aid to their relatives' torturers.

If your 25 year-old daughter was being kept as a sex slave in a cage in a tunnel in Gaza, you would have something to say about aid deliveries to the people who jeered and spat at her as she was paraded through the streets with a bloody crotch, or to the UNRWA teacher who abducted her, or to the "civilians" who returned her to Hamas after she tried to escape.

All that said, I think aid deliveries should go through if it can be determined that they will not be redirected toward Hamas's war effort. But you should not find it remarkable that the actual people who have been terrorized by terrorists would have objections to support for the terrorists' allies and enablers.

So you wouldn’t want the hostage to eat neither?


Dumb take. Israel is so disconnected from the hostages it’s scary. They are Gazan citizens right now too and they want to be safe and to be fed.

Israel is literally fighting a war to save their hostages. IDF men and women are bravely and unquestioningly fighting, and during, to bring the hostages home.

But yes, Israel does not want to open their prisons and release more Hamas monsters into the world and prolong the war. During the earlier ceasefire, it was a sad reality that they had to make this trade because most of the hostages were women and children, but now with most of the hostages remaining being IDF soldiers, trading viscous, rightfully imprisoned hardened Hamas militants does not make sense.

It is on Hamas to immediately release every single hostage, and unconditional surrender. Until then the IDF will continue their efforts to save hostages, target military infrastructure, and continue their humanitarian-minded war effort.

If the IDF is bravely succeeding, why do you need Hamas to surrender? They and hostages will be found right?

The five month hide and go seek will be over soon, right? IDF is so brave they shot Israeli hostages shouting Hebrew and waving white flags, the IDF doesn’t want to enter homes in Gaza or tunnels because they fear the homes will be booby trapped even if it’s a home of a grandmother or family of 4. So brave they are indeed they need Hamas to surrender.

Why? Hamas is sadly enjoying the circular firing squad Israel has become . So many IDF have died from friendly fire. It’s almost poetic in a way because there was a time Israel laughed at Hamas rockets accidentally killing /firing into Gazans and their homes

Because if Hamas cared about the Palestinian civilians even half as much as Israel, they would surrender rather then continuing to murder poor Palestinian civilians, women, and children.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Then settlers rewrote the story. In a statement, Yossi Dagan, the head of the settlers’ regional council whose area of authority includes Rehelim, said that a combat soldier on leave had been “attacked by tens of Hamasniks.” The harvest around Israeli settlements had to be stopped, he said, because it was “being used as a platform for terrorism.” Settlers later shared an image from Saleh’s funeral, in which his brother, Hisham, is waving a Hamas flag. Shortly afterward, Israeli police arrested Hisham. Polls show that support for Hamas in the West Bank, where dissatisfaction with the Palestinian Authority is widespread, has risen from twelve per cent to forty-four per cent in recent months. Seventy-two per cent of Palestinians polled also said that they thought the October 7th attack was “correct.” (Ninety-four per cent of Israelis think that the I.D.F. is using either an appropriate or an insufficient amount of force in Gaza.)

We don’t have any hope,” Bilal’s cousin Hazem Saleh told me. He pointed toward some new houses in the village. Their owners didn’t intend for them “to be demolished or bombed,” he said. “They are not calling for fighting, or killing, or war. But when they are afraid to go out, when they don’t have the minimum standard of living, when they are pressured, their reaction will be the same as the action.”

Hisham Saleh spent three months in jail, without charges, for waving the Hamas flag. The settler who shot Bilal was arrested, and released a few days later. “We are happy that the court decided from the beginning that that was self-defense,” his lawyer, Nati Rom, told me. The judge had cited the events of October 7th, writing, “The vigilance to which we are commanded by the blood of our brothers and sisters who fell for the sanctity of the land and the defense of the homeland is a real obligation.”

Rom said that, to his knowledge, no other settlers had faced charges since October 7th. Settler violence was “fake news,” he said.

Saleh’s shooter was back in the Army, so I visited one of his neighbors, a forty-six-year-old woman named Reuma Harari. At the gate of Rehelim, soldiers took my passport, then security escorted me to Harari’s house. Her back yard was a suburban idyll: a swing set on an AstroTurf lawn, an oak tree, a small dog; Tel Aviv was only forty minutes away, if the traffic was light. She offered me a seat under an olive tree. “Ironic,” she said, chuckling.

They literally have a video of this guy’s brother waving a Hamas flag, and you wonder why this happened?

Who do we believe here, the Israeli government, and peaceful civilians whose sole crime was moving to a new home, or the family of a dead man who clearly was, at the very least, loosely affiliated with Hamas, an organization’s whose primary goal is the eradication of Jews in Israel. It really should not be a hard decision, and yet American leftist neon axis seem to struggle with it.

Yes because a farmer who carried a donkey through town to harvest on Saturday morning to avoid the Zionist KKK is a Hamas operative right? This is your excuse?

Maybe he wore it at his brothers funeral for the same reason you’re defending the death of a farmer : anger and retribution .

Two things are illegal in the West Bank : settlements and Hamas in the West Bank and guess what? The rise in one is causing the rise of the other. Do you think any settlers would even think of even moving to the West Bank if Hamas was well and alive and farmers like this guy were militants?

Let’s use that brain . God may promise land but I see he doesn’t promise sense