Gaza War, Part 3

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:WASHINGTON — President Biden was caught saying on a hot mic Thursday evening that Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu needed a “come to Jesus” talk about the humanitarian situation in the Gaza Strip.

The president, 81, made the awkward comment about the Jewish state’s head of government while mingling with lawmakers following his State of the Union address — asking Sen. Michael Bennet (D-Colo.) to keep what he said confidential.

“I told him, ‘Bibi’ — and don’t repeat this, but [I said] ‘You and I are going to have a come to Jesus—’,” Biden began as an aide rushed over to stop him from saying more, exclaiming “Sir!” and whispering in his ear.

“I’m on a hot mic here,” Biden said out loud after the aide conveyed his message, adding sarcastically, “Good. That was good.”

When asked about the comment on Friday, Biden tried to plead ignorance, telling reporters as he left the White House for a campaign trip to Philadelphia, “I didn’t say that in the speech.”

After a reporter clarified that they were asking about the comment made “after the speech,” the president groused, “You guys eavesdropping on things.”

https://www.axios.com/202...-netanyahu

https://www.timesofisrael...eting/amp/

“Come to Jesus” is an American expression for having a blunt conversation.

Biden has had a checkered, decades-long relationship with Netanyahu, but those ties have come under particular strain in recent months, as Washington sours over Israel’s prosecution of the war in Gaza amid a growing feeling that the premier is not doing enough to address the ongoing humanitarian crisis.

Netanyahu will never have a "come to Jesus" moment about Palestinian suffering because he literally does not care. He doesn't see them as fully human. In his mind, they are to be destroyed like the Amalekites. He's one of the worst people who could be leading Israel at this time.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:"No single loaf of bread" from these crazy Israelis blocking aid into Gaza.

I wish it was just a few crazies, but as per this CNN report, 68% of Jewish Israelis are against allowing humanitarian aid into Gaza.

https://www.cnn.com/videos/world/2024/03/08/kerem-shalom-protesters-aid-gaza-israel-ward-pkg-lead-vpx.cnn

In a symbolic act, these Israelis filled their cars with needed supplies and tried to make their way to the Kerem Shalom crossing.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/in-show-of-solidarity-israeli-activists-attempt-to-deliver-aid-to-civilians-in-gaza/

Do remember that there are still Israelis being held hostage by Gazans. The IDF wants aid to be delivered effectively because they want to finish the war and avoid having the war effort hindered by the humanitarian crisis, but the Israeli public, especially the hostages' families, are not unreasonable in pointing out that it is deeply hypocritical for the international community to send aid to their relatives' torturers.

If your 25 year-old daughter was being kept as a sex slave in a cage in a tunnel in Gaza, you would have something to say about aid deliveries to the people who jeered and spat at her as she was paraded through the streets with a bloody crotch, or to the UNRWA teacher who abducted her, or to the "civilians" who returned her to Hamas after she tried to escape.

All that said, I think aid deliveries should go through if it can be determined that they will not be redirected toward Hamas's war effort. But you should not find it remarkable that the actual people who have been terrorized by terrorists would have objections to support for the terrorists' allies and enablers.

If you polled every single Israeli and asked them one simple question, the response would be perfectly unanimous. Nearly 10M people, not one single outlier.

If you had to choose between (1) living in Israel and enduring the "terrorism" from the Palestinians, or (2) living in Gaza or the West Bank and enduring the "terrorism" from the Israelis, which would you choose? 100.00% would choose (1). And that's why this "terrorized by terrorists" canard is a big effing joke.

Zionists rely on maintaining the propaganda that Palestinian "terrorism" is much more than what it actually is - a periodic nuisance, and nothing more, for a tiny fraction of the Israeli population - to justify its ongoing brutal subjugation of the Palestinian people and misappropriation of land.

10/7 was an abhorrent despicable series of acts, Hamas should be brought to justice, and everyone should agree on those facts. It doesn't change the fact that Israel's current leadership and historic leadership is comprised of some of the worst human beings to have ever walked this planet.

I mean 9/11 was really no NBD in the scheme of things

NP. In point of fact, the post 9/11 overwrought reaction caused much more damage to the U.S. than the actual attack. Zionists ought to be cautious for their own sakes’ and not let their shortsightedness cripple their long-term project.

Exactly. Since its inception, Israel has operated along these lines: I punch you in the face, I disparage your wife and kids, I kill your dog, I steal your wallet and your home, and then when you understandably fight back in outrage, I kill you in "self-defense". That's it. I mean, it's essentially that simple (and sad).

[Anonymous]

Which one is Israel in this example? Hard to tell really from both sides.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Which one is Israel in this example? Hard to tell really from both sides.

Really? It's difficult for you to identify Israel's role in that dysfunctional relationship? If so, I'd suggest you visit an ophthalmologist and perhaps a neurologist.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Come to Jesus is probably not the right phrase to use to a Jewish leader . It’s very W Bush.

Oh stop getting your panties in a twist, I am a Hindu and I say it all the time. Also, people say it to me all the time, it’s an expression not religion conversion. Goodness you all are half crazy!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"No single loaf of bread" from these crazy Israelis blocking aid into Gaza.

I wish it was just a few crazies, but as per this CNN report, 68% of Jewish Israelis are against allowing humanitarian aid into Gaza.

https://www.cnn.com/videos/world/2024/03/08/kerem-shalom-protesters-aid-gaza-israel-ward-pkg-lead-vpx.cnn

In a symbolic act, these Israelis filled their cars with needed supplies and tried to make their way to the Kerem Shalom crossing.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/in-show-of-solidarity-israeli-activists-attempt-to-deliver-aid-to-civilians-in-gaza/

Do remember that there are still Israelis being held hostage by Gazans. The IDF wants aid to be delivered effectively because they want to finish the war and avoid having the war effort hindered by the humanitarian crisis, but the Israeli public, especially the hostages' families, are not unreasonable in pointing out that it is deeply hypocritical for the international community to send aid to their relatives' torturers.

If your 25 year-old daughter was being kept as a sex slave in a cage in a tunnel in Gaza, you would have something to say about aid deliveries to the people who jeered and spat at her as she was paraded through the streets with a bloody crotch, or to the UNRWA teacher who abducted her, or to the "civilians" who returned her to Hamas after she tried to escape.

All that said, I think aid deliveries should go through if it can be determined that they will not be redirected toward Hamas's war effort. But you should not find it remarkable that the actual people who have been terrorized by terrorists would have objections to support for the terrorists' allies and enablers.

So you wouldn’t want the hostage to eat neither?


Dumb take. Israel is so disconnected from the hostages it’s scary. They are Gazan citizens right now too and they want to be safe and to be fed.

Israel is literally fighting a war to save their hostages. IDF men and women are bravely and unquestioningly fighting, and during, to bring the hostages home.

But yes, Israel does not want to open their prisons and release more Hamas monsters into the world and prolong the war. During the earlier ceasefire, it was a sad reality that they had to make this trade because most of the hostages were women and children, but now with most of the hostages remaining being IDF soldiers, trading viscous, rightfully imprisoned hardened Hamas militants does not make sense.

It is on Hamas to immediately release every single hostage, and unconditional surrender. Until then the IDF will continue their efforts to save hostages, target military infrastructure, and continue their humanitarian-minded war effort.

Well, then Israel needs to fight its war on its own dime and it’s own reputation. Hiding behind world’s biggest superpower is not a good strategy for such brave people.

IDF can continue with whatever the hell they want, I want U.S out of there, we don’t want to support these mass murderers. Also, once U.S is out then I will be very interested to see how brave anc courageous IDF truly is.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"No single loaf of bread" from these crazy Israelis blocking aid into Gaza.

I wish it was just a few crazies, but as per this CNN report, 68% of Jewish Israelis are against allowing humanitarian aid into Gaza.

https://www.cnn.com/videos/world/2024/03/08/kerem-shalom-protesters-aid-gaza-israel-ward-pkg-lead-vpx.cnn


Anyone who aligns themselves with Israel is a complicit in genocide.
In a symbolic act, these Israelis filled their cars with needed supplies and tried to make their way to the Kerem Shalom crossing.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/in-show-of-solidarity-israeli-activists-attempt-to-deliver-aid-to-civilians-in-gaza/

These are the same people who don’t let the world forget for a single day how bad Hitler was, I mean the whole situation is unfkimgbelievable.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"No single loaf of bread" from these crazy Israelis blocking aid into Gaza.

I wish it was just a few crazies, but as per this CNN report, 68% of Jewish Israelis are against allowing humanitarian aid into Gaza.

https://www.cnn.com/videos/world/2024/03/08/kerem-shalom-protesters-aid-gaza-israel-ward-pkg-lead-vpx.cnn

In a symbolic act, these Israelis filled their cars with needed supplies and tried to make their way to the Kerem Shalom crossing.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/in-show-of-solidarity-israeli-activists-attempt-to-deliver-aid-to-civilians-in-gaza/

Do remember that there are still Israelis being held hostage by Gazans. The IDF wants aid to be delivered effectively because they want to finish the war and avoid having the war effort hindered by the humanitarian crisis, but the Israeli public, especially the hostages' families, are not unreasonable in pointing out that it is deeply hypocritical for the international community to send aid to their relatives' torturers.

If your 25 year-old daughter was being kept as a sex slave in a cage in a tunnel in Gaza, you would have something to say about aid deliveries to the people who jeered and spat at her as she was paraded through the streets with a bloody crotch, or to the UNRWA teacher who abducted her, or to the "civilians" who returned her to Hamas after she tried to escape.

All that said, I think aid deliveries should go through if it can be determined that they will not be redirected toward Hamas's war effort. But you should not find it remarkable that the actual people who have been terrorized by terrorists would have objections to support for the terrorists' allies and enablers.

If you polled every single Israeli and asked them one simple question, the response would be perfectly unanimous. Nearly 10M people, not one single outlier.

If you had to choose between (1) living in Israel and enduring the "terrorism" from the Palestinians, or (2) living in Gaza or the West Bank and enduring the "terrorism" from the Israelis, which would you choose? 100.00% would choose (1). And that's why this "terrorized by terrorists" canard is a big effing joke.

Zionists rely on maintaining the propaganda that Palestinian "terrorism" is much more than what it actually is - a periodic nuisance, and nothing more, for a tiny fraction of the Israeli population - to justify its ongoing brutal subjugation of the Palestinian people and misappropriation of land.

10/7 was an abhorrent despicable series of acts, Hamas should be brought to justice, and everyone should agree on those facts. It doesn't change the fact that Israel's current leadership and historic leadership is comprised of some of the worst human beings to have ever walked this planet.

I mean 9/11 was really no NBD in the scheme of things

NP. In point of fact, the post 9/11 overwrought reaction caused much more damage to the U.S. than the actual attack. Zionists ought to be cautious for their own sakes’ and not let their shortsightedness cripple their long-term project.

Exactly. Since its inception, Israel has operated along these lines: I punch you in the face, I disparage your wife and kids, I kill your dog, I steal your wallet and your home, and then when you understandably fight back in outrage, I kill you in "self-defense". That's it. I mean, it's essentially that simple (and sad).

And all the while claiming to hold the moral ground. They probably actually believe they have the moral high ground because they consider themselves so much superior to the Palestinians. Zionists see Palestinians as an expendable inconvenience that needs to be erased. This triumphalist victory narrative is increasingly turning in on itself. The values of equality and social justice will continue to assert themselves over those of power and coercion.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:WASHINGTON — President Biden was caught saying on a hot mic Thursday evening that Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu needed a “come to Jesus” talk about the humanitarian situation in the Gaza Strip.

The president, 81, made the awkward comment about the Jewish state’s head of government while mingling with lawmakers following his State of the Union address — asking Sen. Michael Bennet (D-Colo.) to keep what he said confidential.

“I told him, ‘Bibi’ — and don’t repeat this, but [I said] ‘You and I are going to have a come to Jesus—’,” Biden began as an aide rushed over to stop him from saying more, exclaiming “Sir!” and whispering in his ear.

“I’m on a hot mic here,” Biden said out loud after the aide conveyed his message, adding sarcastically, “Good. That was good.”

When asked about the comment on Friday, Biden tried to plead ignorance, telling reporters as he left the White House for a campaign trip to Philadelphia, “I didn’t say that in the speech.”

After a reporter clarified that they were asking about the comment made “after the speech,” the president groused, “You guys eavesdropping on things.”

https://www.axios.com/202...-netanyahu

https://www.timesofisrael...eting/amp/

“Come to Jesus” is an American expression for having a blunt conversation.

Biden has had a checkered, decades-long relationship with Netanyahu, but those ties have come under particular strain in recent months, as Washington sours over Israel’s prosecution of the war in Gaza amid a growing feeling that the premier is not doing enough to address the ongoing humanitarian crisis.

Netanyahu will never have a "come to Jesus" moment about Palestinian suffering because he literally does not care. He doesn't see them as fully human. In his mind, they are to be destroyed like the Amalekites. He's one of the worst people who could be leading Israel at this time.

Funny how many of the exact same people saying Biden somehow can't or won't do anything to put pressure on Bibi previously made a lot of hay about how Biden got Shokin ousted as Ukraine's Attorney General by threatening to withhold $1b. It's almost like the neurons in your brain don't talk to each other.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Come to Jesus is probably not the right phrase to use to a Jewish leader . It’s very W Bush.

Oh stop getting your panties in a twist, I am a Hindu and I say it all the time. Also, people say it to me all the time, it’s an expression not religion conversion. Goodness you all are half crazy!

Half of the posters here are foreign trolls who don't understand colloquial American expressions.

[Anonymous]

Mass exodus threatened by Chief Rabbi if Haredim are forced into military service
"The yeshivas and kollels hold up the world. The state exists on Torah study, and without the Torah, the army would not have succeeded."
Rabbi Yitzhak Yosef, the Chief Rabbi of Israel, has sparked controversy with his recent remarks on the compulsory drafting of Haredim into the Israel Defense Forces (IDF). During his weekly lesson in Jerusalem on Saturday night, Yosef declared, "If they force us to join the army, we will all move abroad," signaling a potential mass departure that could shake the very foundations of the state.

https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/article-791086

I know maybe they can come to the US and the US can send US servicemen to fight for Israel in Israel?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Come to Jesus is probably not the right phrase to use to a Jewish leader . It’s very W Bush.

Oh stop getting your panties in a twist, I am a Hindu and I say it all the time. Also, people say it to me all the time, it’s an expression not religion conversion. Goodness you all are half crazy!

It doesn’t matter what you are. Saying Come to Jesus to a Jewish leader is in poor taste and a Freudian slip

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"No single loaf of bread" from these crazy Israelis blocking aid into Gaza.

I wish it was just a few crazies, but as per this CNN report, 68% of Jewish Israelis are against allowing humanitarian aid into Gaza.

https://www.cnn.com/videos/world/2024/03/08/kerem-shalom-protesters-aid-gaza-israel-ward-pkg-lead-vpx.cnn

In a symbolic act, these Israelis filled their cars with needed supplies and tried to make their way to the Kerem Shalom crossing.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/in-show-of-solidarity-israeli-activists-attempt-to-deliver-aid-to-civilians-in-gaza/

Do remember that there are still Israelis being held hostage by Gazans. The IDF wants aid to be delivered effectively because they want to finish the war and avoid having the war effort hindered by the humanitarian crisis, but the Israeli public, especially the hostages' families, are not unreasonable in pointing out that it is deeply hypocritical for the international community to send aid to their relatives' torturers.

If your 25 year-old daughter was being kept as a sex slave in a cage in a tunnel in Gaza, you would have something to say about aid deliveries to the people who jeered and spat at her as she was paraded through the streets with a bloody crotch, or to the UNRWA teacher who abducted her, or to the "civilians" who returned her to Hamas after she tried to escape.

All that said, I think aid deliveries should go through if it can be determined that they will not be redirected toward Hamas's war effort. But you should not find it remarkable that the actual people who have been terrorized by terrorists would have objections to support for the terrorists' allies and enablers.

So you wouldn’t want the hostage to eat neither?


Dumb take. Israel is so disconnected from the hostages it’s scary. They are Gazan citizens right now too and they want to be safe and to be fed.

Israel is literally fighting a war to save their hostages. IDF men and women are bravely and unquestioningly fighting, and during, to bring the hostages home.

But yes, Israel does not want to open their prisons and release more Hamas monsters into the world and prolong the war. During the earlier ceasefire, it was a sad reality that they had to make this trade because most of the hostages were women and children, but now with most of the hostages remaining being IDF soldiers, trading viscous, rightfully imprisoned hardened Hamas militants does not make sense.

It is on Hamas to immediately release every single hostage, and unconditional surrender. Until then the IDF will continue their efforts to save hostages, target military infrastructure, and continue their humanitarian-minded war effort.

If the IDF is bravely succeeding, why do you need Hamas to surrender? They and hostages will be found right?

The five month hide and go seek will be over soon, right? IDF is so brave they shot Israeli hostages shouting Hebrew and waving white flags, the IDF doesn’t want to enter homes in Gaza or tunnels because they fear the homes will be booby trapped even if it’s a home of a grandmother or family of 4. So brave they are indeed they need Hamas to surrender.

Why? Hamas is sadly enjoying the circular firing squad Israel has become . So many IDF have died from friendly fire. It’s almost poetic in a way because there was a time Israel laughed at Hamas rockets accidentally killing /firing into Gazans and their homes

[Anonymous]

I’m amazed at how most (not all) Jewish people are completely uncritical of Israel and they are completely unaware of their biases.
They don’t even realize that they think of Palestinians as inferior but it is fully obvious that in their minds Palestinians are subhuman and their lives are not worth much.

[Anonymous]

The New Yorker has provided great coverage about this crisis .

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2024/03/04/israel-west-bank-settlers-attacks-palestinians

On October 28, 2023, Bilal Saleh woke early to prepare for the olive harvest in the village of al-Sawiya. He knew it was risky. A couple of days earlier, farmers had returned from their olive groves in the nearby village of Deir Istiya to find flyers on their cars that read, “You wanted war, now wait for the great Nakba. . . . This is your last chance to escape to Jordan in an orderly fashion before we forcibly expel you from our holy lands, which were given to us by God.” Since October 7th, messages in settler chat groups had portrayed olive pickers as undercover Hamas operatives and as Nazis. Elmaliach, the mayor of Eli, which is a mile and a half from al-Sawiya, sent around a sign-up sheet calling for the “full mobilization” of his residents “to stand up to the Arabs who try to harvest around our settlements.”

Saleh, who was forty, kept his opinions to himself and avoided protests. But the land had been in his family for generations. He’d recently left his job at a hotel in Tel Aviv and had been selling herbs on the streets of Ramallah. Without the olive harvest, he’d be stretched thin. He and his friends and relatives chose a Saturday to pick olives, because it was the Jewish Sabbath, a day when the Orthodox settlers were likely to be in synagogue or resting.

Saleh loaded up his family’s donkey and walked with his wife and kids through their village, across from the road where Israelis-only buses took settlers to their jobs, and down to their plot of trees. The settlement of Rehelim looked down on them from less than half a mile away. They put a tarp down under a tree and started picking.

At around 10:30 a.m., Saleh’s friend Sami Kafineh was driving back to al-Sawiya from Nablus. Just before he reached the village, he noticed four men, dressed in white, walking from Rehelim toward the olive grove. He pulled over and shouted that settlers were approaching.

People who were in the grove told me that, as soon as Bilal Saleh realized that the settlers were coming, he hurried his wife and children to safety, leaving their belongings behind. As they walked to the road, Saleh, realizing he’d left his phone behind, turned back. He returned to the plot, picked up his phone, and was shot.