The Mueller Report

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How do you explain the more selective release, willful misinterpretation and extreme editing by AG William Barr of the Mueller report?


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Barr did not edit the report. He asked Mueller to give it to him with the redactions of classified material and grand jury information. Mueller chose not to do so. The only thing that was "edited" was the redactions of highly classified and grand jury information. Pretty sure that someone from Mueller's team participated in that action. Other than that, pretty much everything was released to the public, and more was released to Congress. That is not "editing." It is the law.

Sorry dems, looks like another trump victory.
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Anonymous wrote:Judge Sullivan demands that public gets to learn everything Trump's lawyer John Dowd said in voice mail to Flynn's lawyer. In his calls, Dowd appeared to suggest it wasn't good idea for Flynn to cooperate, it would upset Donald Trump.

When Trump's lawyer has to lawyer up....


Dowd was all in

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trumps-lawyer-wrote-presidents-sloppy-tweet-flynns-dismissal/story


He should be disbarred and prosecuted.


Audio of Dowd’s voicemail to Flynn’s lawyer has been released.
https://twitter.com/joshscampbell/status/1136738942076637184?s=21


"Implicates the president."


Meanwhile, Flynn just fired Keller and the rest of his legal team.
https://www.politico.com/amp/story/2019/06/06/michael-flynn-fires-legal-team-1356175?__twitter_impression=true
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In over 400 pages of his report, at no point does Mueller assert that he could find probable cause to charge President Trump (or any of Trump's family members) with any crime.

That is the legal standard in America that governs all criminal prosecutions. The prosecution must show that probable cause exists to believe the defendant committed the crime. Probable cause is a very low level of evidence, it is just the minimum to bring criminal charges. Even if there is probable cause, the defendant is still presumed innocent until proved guilty by a jury of 12, beyond a reasonable doubt.

The Mueller report doesn't come close to making a finding of probable cause as to a single alleged "crime" by President Trump.

There is no such standard of "we were unable to prove the President did NOT commit a crime" in American jurisprudence. It is not a relevant statement by the Mueller team. Similar is "we did not exonerate him". That is an imaginary legal standard which simply does not exist.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:In over 400 pages of his report, at no point does Mueller assert that he could find probable cause to charge President Trump (or any of Trump's family members) with any crime.

That is the legal standard in America that governs all criminal prosecutions. The prosecution must show that probable cause exists to believe the defendant committed the crime. Probable cause is a very low level of evidence, it is just the minimum to bring criminal charges. Even if there is probable cause, the defendant is still presumed innocent until proved guilty by a jury of 12, beyond a reasonable doubt.

The Mueller report doesn't come close to making a finding of probable cause as to a single alleged "crime" by President Trump.

There is no such standard of "we were unable to prove the President did NOT commit a crime" in American jurisprudence. It is not a relevant statement by the Mueller team. Similar is "we did not exonerate him". That is an imaginary legal standard which simply does not exist.



Where did you go to law school?
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Judge Sullivan demands that public gets to learn everything Trump's lawyer John Dowd said in voice mail to Flynn's lawyer. In his calls, Dowd appeared to suggest it wasn't good idea for Flynn to cooperate, it would upset Donald Trump.

When Trump's lawyer has to lawyer up....


Dowd was all in

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trumps-lawyer-wrote-presidents-sloppy-tweet-flynns-dismissal/story


He should be disbarred and prosecuted.


Audio of Dowd’s voicemail to Flynn’s lawyer has been released.
https://twitter.com/joshscampbell/status/1136738942076637184?s=21


"Implicates the president."


Meanwhile, Flynn just fired Keller and the rest of his legal team.
https://www.politico.com/amp/story/2019/06/06/michael-flynn-fires-legal-team-1356175?__twitter_impression=true


This is likely a prelude to Flynn's attempting to withdraw his guilty plea on grounds of ineffective assistance of his (former) counsel.

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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Judge Sullivan demands that public gets to learn everything Trump's lawyer John Dowd said in voice mail to Flynn's lawyer. In his calls, Dowd appeared to suggest it wasn't good idea for Flynn to cooperate, it would upset Donald Trump.

When Trump's lawyer has to lawyer up....


Dowd was all in

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trumps-lawyer-wrote-presidents-sloppy-tweet-flynns-dismissal/story


He should be disbarred and prosecuted.


Audio of Dowd’s voicemail to Flynn’s lawyer has been released.
https://twitter.com/joshscampbell/status/1136738942076637184?s=21


"Implicates the president."


Meanwhile, Flynn just fired Keller and the rest of his legal team.
https://www.politico.com/amp/story/2019/06/06/michael-flynn-fires-legal-team-1356175?__twitter_impression=true


This is likely a prelude to Flynn's attempting to withdraw his guilty plea on grounds of ineffective assistance of his (former) counsel.



Ineffective assistance? They got him a plea deal of no jail time. SMH

He might be angling for a pardon. Or he's nuts. And we already knew he's nuts.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Judge Sullivan demands that public gets to learn everything Trump's lawyer John Dowd said in voice mail to Flynn's lawyer. In his calls, Dowd appeared to suggest it wasn't good idea for Flynn to cooperate, it would upset Donald Trump.

When Trump's lawyer has to lawyer up....


Dowd was all in

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trumps-lawyer-wrote-presidents-sloppy-tweet-flynns-dismissal/story


He should be disbarred and prosecuted.


Audio of Dowd’s voicemail to Flynn’s lawyer has been released.
https://twitter.com/joshscampbell/status/1136738942076637184?s=21


"Implicates the president."


Meanwhile, Flynn just fired Keller and the rest of his legal team.
https://www.politico.com/amp/story/2019/06/06/michael-flynn-fires-legal-team-1356175?__twitter_impression=true


This is likely a prelude to Flynn's attempting to withdraw his guilty plea on grounds of ineffective assistance of his (former) counsel.



Ineffective assistance? They got him a plea deal of no jail time. SMH

He might be angling for a pardon. Or he's nuts. And we already knew he's nuts.


Yes, ineffective assistance of counsel. He obviously can't keep the same attorneys and have them file the motion that they themselves were ineffective. So he has to get new attorneys to file that kind of motion, accusing his fired attorneys of providing ineffective assistance in counseling him to plead guilty to a crime which he didn't commit.

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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Judge Sullivan demands that public gets to learn everything Trump's lawyer John Dowd said in voice mail to Flynn's lawyer. In his calls, Dowd appeared to suggest it wasn't good idea for Flynn to cooperate, it would upset Donald Trump.

When Trump's lawyer has to lawyer up....


Dowd was all in

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trumps-lawyer-wrote-presidents-sloppy-tweet-flynns-dismissal/story


He should be disbarred and prosecuted.


Audio of Dowd’s voicemail to Flynn’s lawyer has been released.
https://twitter.com/joshscampbell/status/1136738942076637184?s=21


"Implicates the president."


Meanwhile, Flynn just fired Keller and the rest of his legal team.
https://www.politico.com/amp/story/2019/06/06/michael-flynn-fires-legal-team-1356175?__twitter_impression=true


This is likely a prelude to Flynn's attempting to withdraw his guilty plea on grounds of ineffective assistance of his (former) counsel.



Ineffective assistance? They got him a plea deal of no jail time. SMH

He might be angling for a pardon. Or he's nuts. And we already knew he's nuts.


Yes, ineffective assistance of counsel. He obviously can't keep the same attorneys and have them file the motion that they themselves were ineffective. So he has to get new attorneys to file that kind of motion, accusing his fired attorneys of providing ineffective assistance in counseling him to plead guilty to a crime which he didn't commit.



Accepting a pardon is an admission of guilt.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:In over 400 pages of his report, at no point does Mueller assert that he could find probable cause to charge President Trump (or any of Trump's family members) with any crime.

That is the legal standard in America that governs all criminal prosecutions. The prosecution must show that probable cause exists to believe the defendant committed the crime. Probable cause is a very low level of evidence, it is just the minimum to bring criminal charges. Even if there is probable cause, the defendant is still presumed innocent until proved guilty by a jury of 12, beyond a reasonable doubt.

The Mueller report doesn't come close to making a finding of probable cause as to a single alleged "crime" by President Trump.

There is no such standard of "we were unable to prove the President did NOT commit a crime" in American jurisprudence. It is not a relevant statement by the Mueller team. Similar is "we did not exonerate him". That is an imaginary legal standard which simply does not exist.



Where did you go to law school?


Wikipedia. I wish Robert Mueller had gone there too:

Probable cause

In United States criminal law, probable cause is the standard by which police authorities have reason to obtain a warrant for the arrest of a suspected criminal or the issuing of a search warrant. It is also the standard by which grand juries issue criminal indictments. The principle behind the standard is to limit the power of authorities to perform random or abusive searches (unlawful search and seizure), and to promote lawful evidence gathering and procedural form during criminal arrest and prosecution. The standard also applies to personal or property searches.[1]

The term comes from the Fourth Amendment of the United States Constitution:

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Judge Sullivan demands that public gets to learn everything Trump's lawyer John Dowd said in voice mail to Flynn's lawyer. In his calls, Dowd appeared to suggest it wasn't good idea for Flynn to cooperate, it would upset Donald Trump.

When Trump's lawyer has to lawyer up....


Dowd was all in

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trumps-lawyer-wrote-presidents-sloppy-tweet-flynns-dismissal/story


He should be disbarred and prosecuted.


Audio of Dowd’s voicemail to Flynn’s lawyer has been released.
https://twitter.com/joshscampbell/status/1136738942076637184?s=21


"Implicates the president."


Meanwhile, Flynn just fired Keller and the rest of his legal team.
https://www.politico.com/amp/story/2019/06/06/michael-flynn-fires-legal-team-1356175?__twitter_impression=true


This is likely a prelude to Flynn's attempting to withdraw his guilty plea on grounds of ineffective assistance of his (former) counsel.



Ineffective assistance? They got him a plea deal of no jail time. SMH

He might be angling for a pardon. Or he's nuts. And we already knew he's nuts.


Yes, ineffective assistance of counsel. He obviously can't keep the same attorneys and have them file the motion that they themselves were ineffective. So he has to get new attorneys to file that kind of motion, accusing his fired attorneys of providing ineffective assistance in counseling him to plead guilty to a crime which he didn't commit.



Accepting a pardon is an admission of guilt.



Implying that Flynn accepted (or was ever even offered) a pardon is your admission of stupidity, since it never happened.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Judge Sullivan demands that public gets to learn everything Trump's lawyer John Dowd said in voice mail to Flynn's lawyer. In his calls, Dowd appeared to suggest it wasn't good idea for Flynn to cooperate, it would upset Donald Trump.

When Trump's lawyer has to lawyer up....


Dowd was all in

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trumps-lawyer-wrote-presidents-sloppy-tweet-flynns-dismissal/story


He should be disbarred and prosecuted.


Audio of Dowd’s voicemail to Flynn’s lawyer has been released.
https://twitter.com/joshscampbell/status/1136738942076637184?s=21


"Implicates the president."


Meanwhile, Flynn just fired Keller and the rest of his legal team.
https://www.politico.com/amp/story/2019/06/06/michael-flynn-fires-legal-team-1356175?__twitter_impression=true


This is likely a prelude to Flynn's attempting to withdraw his guilty plea on grounds of ineffective assistance of his (former) counsel.



Ineffective assistance? They got him a plea deal of no jail time. SMH

He might be angling for a pardon. Or he's nuts. And we already knew he's nuts.


Yes, ineffective assistance of counsel. He obviously can't keep the same attorneys and have them file the motion that they themselves were ineffective. So he has to get new attorneys to file that kind of motion, accusing his fired attorneys of providing ineffective assistance in counseling him to plead guilty to a crime which he didn't commit.



Accepting a pardon is an admission of guilt.



Implying that Flynn accepted (or was ever even offered) a pardon is your admission of stupidity, since it never happened.


I'm implying that is his strategy for firing his lawyers.

Or else his strategy is to get himself charged with treason. That might be it.
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Anonymous wrote:Judge Sullivan demands that public gets to learn everything Trump's lawyer John Dowd said in voice mail to Flynn's lawyer. In his calls, Dowd appeared to suggest it wasn't good idea for Flynn to cooperate, it would upset Donald Trump.

When Trump's lawyer has to lawyer up....


Dowd was all in

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trumps-lawyer-wrote-presidents-sloppy-tweet-flynns-dismissal/story


He should be disbarred and prosecuted.


Audio of Dowd’s voicemail to Flynn’s lawyer has been released.
https://twitter.com/joshscampbell/status/1136738942076637184?s=21


"Implicates the president."


Meanwhile, Flynn just fired Keller and the rest of his legal team.
https://www.politico.com/amp/story/2019/06/06/michael-flynn-fires-legal-team-1356175?__twitter_impression=true


This is likely a prelude to Flynn's attempting to withdraw his guilty plea on grounds of ineffective assistance of his (former) counsel.



Ineffective assistance? They got him a plea deal of no jail time. SMH

He might be angling for a pardon. Or he's nuts. And we already knew he's nuts.


Yes, ineffective assistance of counsel. He obviously can't keep the same attorneys and have them file the motion that they themselves were ineffective. So he has to get new attorneys to file that kind of motion, accusing his fired attorneys of providing ineffective assistance in counseling him to plead guilty to a crime which he didn't commit.



Accepting a pardon is an admission of guilt.



Implying that Flynn accepted (or was ever even offered) a pardon is your admission of stupidity, since it never happened.


I'm implying that is his strategy for firing his lawyers.

Or else his strategy is to get himself charged with treason. That might be it.


Why on God's green earth would he need to fire his lawyers in order to receive a pardon?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:In over 400 pages of his report, at no point does Mueller assert that he could find probable cause to charge President Trump (or any of Trump's family members) with any crime.

That is the legal standard in America that governs all criminal prosecutions. The prosecution must show that probable cause exists to believe the defendant committed the crime. Probable cause is a very low level of evidence, it is just the minimum to bring criminal charges. Even if there is probable cause, the defendant is still presumed innocent until proved guilty by a jury of 12, beyond a reasonable doubt.

The Mueller report doesn't come close to making a finding of probable cause as to a single alleged "crime" by President Trump.

There is no such standard of "we were unable to prove the President did NOT commit a crime" in American jurisprudence. It is not a relevant statement by the Mueller team. Similar is "we did not exonerate him". That is an imaginary legal standard which simply does not exist.



Mueller also failed the school of logic. He implied he could prove a negative. The whole report was written with a heavy political tone. He thinks a special counsel's job is to collect information for political proceedings such as an impeachment.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:In over 400 pages of his report, at no point does Mueller assert that he could find probable cause to charge President Trump (or any of Trump's family members) with any crime.

That is the legal standard in America that governs all criminal prosecutions. The prosecution must show that probable cause exists to believe the defendant committed the crime. Probable cause is a very low level of evidence, it is just the minimum to bring criminal charges. Even if there is probable cause, the defendant is still presumed innocent until proved guilty by a jury of 12, beyond a reasonable doubt.

The Mueller report doesn't come close to making a finding of probable cause as to a single alleged "crime" by President Trump.

There is no such standard of "we were unable to prove the President did NOT commit a crime" in American jurisprudence. It is not a relevant statement by the Mueller team. Similar is "we did not exonerate him". That is an imaginary legal standard which simply does not exist.



Mueller also failed the school of logic. He implied he could prove a negative. The whole report was written with a heavy political tone. He thinks a special counsel's job is to collect information for political proceedings such as an impeachment.


Methinks you didn't read it.
Anonymous
More curious omissions from Mueller's report.......

In a key finding of the Mueller report, Ukrainian businessman Konstantin Kilimnik, who worked for Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort, is tied to Russian intelligence.

But hundreds of pages of government documents — which Mueller possessed since 2018 — describe Kilimnik as a “sensitive” intelligence source for the U.S. State Department who informed on Ukrainian and Russian matters.

Why special counsel Robert Mueller’s team omitted that part of the Kilimnik narrative from their report and related court filings is not known. But the revelation of it comes as the accuracy of Mueller’s Russia conclusions face increased scrutiny.

The incomplete portrayal of Kilimnik is so important to Mueller’s overall narrative that it is raised in the opening of his report. “The FBI assesses” Kilimnik “to have ties to Russian intelligence,” Mueller’s team wrote on page 6, putting a sinister light on every contact Kilimnik had with Manafort, the former Trump campaign chairman.

What it doesn’t state is that Kilimnik was a “sensitive” intelligence source for State going back to at least 2013 while he was still working for Manafort, according to FBI and State Department memos I reviewed.

Kilimnik was not just any run-of-the-mill source, either.

He interacted with the chief political officer at the U.S. embassy in Kiev, sometimes meeting several times a week to provide information on the Ukraine government. He relayed messages back to Ukraine’s leaders and delivered written reports to U.S. officials via emails that stretched on for thousands of words, the memos show.

The FBI knew all of this, well before the Mueller investigation concluded.


https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/447394-key-figure-that-mueller-report-linked-to-russia-was-a-state-department
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