Trump - “Why are we having all these people from shithole countries come here?”

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I work with a lot of Ethiopian and other African students and they always come to school in nice clothing, they are very respectful and hard working. Is truthfully a little sad that there such a brain drain out of Ethiopia but I don't doubt that the students will make a good contribution to American society.

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Anonymous wrote:Many Africans and Haitians are posting extensive defenses of their countries on Facebook. When asked why they left they'd countries, they answer a variant of what the US offers them. I find it interesting that they left countries but now jump to their defense.

Oh stop being disingenuous.

The president didn't say "there are serious problems in Hait and some African countries." If he had no one would have disagreed with that. Instead, he dismissed them with a vulgarity, and implied their inhabitants are not the sort of people we want in the US. Here's a hint: that's an insult.

How many Americans go ape-shit if people say anything negative about this country. How many times do you hear "leave this country if you don't like it" or "love it or leave it" or "my country right or wrong" -- just because someone dares to critique something about the US that can be improved?

Except that Trump, of course, can imply America's not great rignt now (MAGA) and these same people go wild with applause.

Ethiopia is a shithole. In fact the late Emperor Haile Selassie's head was stuff in a toilet full of shit when the opposition killed him. The Haitians and Africans posting on Facebook are defending the shithole countries they fled. Not disingenuous, simply reality. No one is leaving Norway because it's not a shithole. Few people immigrate from the US because it's not a shithold. Many people leave South Sunda, because it is a shithole Many people leave Equitorial Guinea because it is a shithole. If these places were so great, why would people leave them? No one can or will answer this question.

Spot-on. You're my new favorite poster.
We have friends who travel extensively throughout Europe. They were appalled by Trump's "shithole" comment, so we asked if they had ever considered traveling to Haiti or any African countries. Of course, their answer was no. "But why?" we asked. Crickets.

Has our education system really failed to this extent?

Trump implied that the people coming from these countries have something wrong with them. That is vicious and untrue.

Sadly yes, our education system has failed. The way racism supersedes basic critical thinking skills in the minds of so many proves that out.

Hardlly. Our education system is to blame, but not for what you said. Colleges are teaching that whiteness is a problem and that critical thinking and independent judgement will be condemned. Fall in line behind the liberal mantra, or face the consequences - up to and including death threads.

What crappy news source told you this?

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Anonymous wrote:Many Africans and Haitians are posting extensive defenses of their countries on Facebook. When asked why they left they'd countries, they answer a variant of what the US offers them. I find it interesting that they left countries but now jump to their defense.

Oh stop being disingenuous.

The president didn't say "there are serious problems in Hait and some African countries." If he had no one would have disagreed with that. Instead, he dismissed them with a vulgarity, and implied their inhabitants are not the sort of people we want in the US. Here's a hint: that's an insult.

How many Americans go ape-shit if people say anything negative about this country. How many times do you hear "leave this country if you don't like it" or "love it or leave it" or "my country right or wrong" -- just because someone dares to critique something about the US that can be improved?

Except that Trump, of course, can imply America's not great rignt now (MAGA) and these same people go wild with applause.

Ethiopia is a shithole. In fact the late Emperor Haile Selassie's head was stuff in a toilet full of shit when the opposition killed him. The Haitians and Africans posting on Facebook are defending the shithole countries they fled. Not disingenuous, simply reality. No one is leaving Norway because it's not a shithole. Few people immigrate from the US because it's not a shithold. Many people leave South Sunda, because it is a shithole Many people leave Equitorial Guinea because it is a shithole. If these places were so great, why would people leave them? No one can or will answer this question.

Spot-on. You're my new favorite poster.
We have friends who travel extensively throughout Europe. They were appalled by Trump's "shithole" comment, so we asked if they had ever considered traveling to Haiti or any African countries. Of course, their answer was no. "But why?" we asked. Crickets.

Has our education system really failed to this extent?

Trump implied that the people coming from these countries have something wrong with them. That is vicious and untrue.

Sadly yes, our education system has failed. The way racism supersedes basic critical thinking skills in the minds of so many proves that out.

Hardlly. Our education system is to blame, but not for what you said. Colleges are teaching that whiteness is a problem and that critical thinking and independent judgement will be condemned. Fall in line behind the liberal mantra, or face the consequences - up to and including death threads.

Death threads, huh?

Sounds like quite a tangled mess. Perhaps you should give us some sources to keep us in the loop. It seems like you have quite a tapestry of persecuted feelings to deal with. Help us sew the pieces together here.

Cute comeback, but really....focus on a one-letter typo rather than address the hate and intolerance on the left? Should the party that pats itself on its collective back for its "inclusiveness" really threaten people with different opinions?

Wah wah I’m conservative and the liberals keep hurting my feewings! They’re not even taking death threads seriously! Someone could get strangled!

Hopefully a liberal.

OH NO! CONSERVATIVES WANT LIBERALS TO DIE!!!


Is that how you do it? I'll have to bring this up at least 10000x in future threads.

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Anonymous wrote:I’ve never been to Africa or Haiti, but have friends who have lived in both and they conceded that they are challenging places but they also have good things to say about the people they met there. To me, the most offensive thing about Trump’s comments is not that the places themselves are shitholes, but that the people that live there are somehow second class and not deserving of entrance to America. There are some posters on here who similarly seem to think that Haitian and Afraid can immigrants are only good for menial, manual labor jobs. Clearly they don’t know many immigrants from these countries. The ones I know are so grateful for their opportunity, work hard, and co tribute more to our economy than you realize.

On the other hand, while yes, there are fewer jobs building railroads, etc., the service sector is huge and Americans have an aversion to farm labor. So Trump et al. will need to find a way to fill these positions if they cutoff immigration of low-skill workers.

Please tell us the jobs held by the many immigrants you know.

Both of my oncologists. Both shitholers.

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Anonymous wrote:I’ve never been to Africa or Haiti, but have friends who have lived in both and they conceded that they are challenging places but they also have good things to say about the people they met there. To me, the most offensive thing about Trump’s comments is not that the places themselves are shitholes, but that the people that live there are somehow second class and not deserving of entrance to America. There are some posters on here who similarly seem to think that Haitian and Afraid can immigrants are only good for menial, manual labor jobs. Clearly they don’t know many immigrants from these countries. The ones I know are so grateful for their opportunity, work hard, and co tribute more to our economy than you realize.

On the other hand, while yes, there are fewer jobs building railroads, etc., the service sector is huge and Americans have an aversion to farm labor. So Trump et al. will need to find a way to fill these positions if they cutoff immigration of low-skill workers.

This is exactly the problem. Stupid Trump supporters can't seem to grasp that though.

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Anonymous wrote:I’ve never been to Africa or Haiti, but have friends who have lived in both and they conceded that they are challenging places but they also have good things to say about the people they met there. To me, the most offensive thing about Trump’s comments is not that the places themselves are shitholes, but that the people that live there are somehow second class and not deserving of entrance to America. There are some posters on here who similarly seem to think that Haitian and Afraid can immigrants are only good for menial, manual labor jobs. Clearly they don’t know many immigrants from these countries. The ones I know are so grateful for their opportunity, work hard, and co tribute more to our economy than you realize.

On the other hand, while yes, there are fewer jobs building railroads, etc., the service sector is huge and Americans have an aversion to farm labor. So Trump et al. will need to find a way to fill these positions if they cutoff immigration of low-skill workers.

Please tell us the jobs held by the many immigrants you know.

Easy. At least a dozen of my MD and MD/PhD colleagues, mostly from said shitholes.

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone please ask Trump during his next presss conference whether Slovenia is a shithole?

Actually, no. It's a picturesque, safe and friendly country. Perfect for retirement, but for young people probably not.

Why don't young people like it there? I see a lot of Slovenians in their late teens-early 20s at our beach town every summer, working at the grocery stores, tourist shops, hotel pools, etc. Our neighborhood pool also hires them as lifeguards until the neighborhood college kids get home for the summer. Apparently there's a huge market for them to come to America and quite a few are interested in staying permanently if they can figure out a way to do so (i.e., fall in love quickly and marry an American citizen).

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Anonymous wrote:Many Africans and Haitians are posting extensive defenses of their countries on Facebook. When asked why they left they'd countries, they answer a variant of what the US offers them. I find it interesting that they left countries but now jump to their defense.

Oh stop being disingenuous.

The president didn't say "there are serious problems in Hait and some African countries." If he had no one would have disagreed with that. Instead, he dismissed them with a vulgarity, and implied their inhabitants are not the sort of people we want in the US. Here's a hint: that's an insult.

How many Americans go ape-shit if people say anything negative about this country. How many times do you hear "leave this country if you don't like it" or "love it or leave it" or "my country right or wrong" -- just because someone dares to critique something about the US that can be improved?

Except that Trump, of course, can imply America's not great rignt now (MAGA) and these same people go wild with applause.

Ethiopia is a shithole. In fact the late Emperor Haile Selassie's head was stuff in a toilet full of shit when the opposition killed him. The Haitians and Africans posting on Facebook are defending the shithole countries they fled. Not disingenuous, simply reality. No one is leaving Norway because it's not a shithole. Few people immigrate from the US because it's not a shithold. Many people leave South Sunda, because it is a shithole Many people leave Equitorial Guinea because it is a shithole. If these places were so great, why would people leave them? No one can or will answer this question.

Spot-on. You're my new favorite poster.
We have friends who travel extensively throughout Europe. They were appalled by Trump's "shithole" comment, so we asked if they had ever considered traveling to Haiti or any African countries. Of course, their answer was no. "But why?" we asked. Crickets.

Has our education system really failed to this extent?

Trump implied that the people coming from these countries have something wrong with them. That is vicious and untrue.

Sadly yes, our education system has failed. The way racism supersedes basic critical thinking skills in the minds of so many proves that out.

Our educational system is strained to the point of failure in many places because of the extremely large numbers of students for whom we're trying to provide the needed education to attend college and/or technical training while also providing special needs services, breakfast/lunch/snacks/weekend backpacks, counseling, psychological evaluations, medical treatment, after school care, music and art opportunities, second language instruction, etc. IT IS EXPENSIVE.

And then add in the liberal fight to provide sanctuary for illegal immigrants, and we have some schools where 1/3 of the students are ESOL. That comes with big costs - both quantifiable and unquantifiable.

1/3 ESOL? Bailey's 65.48 English Learner and 71.9 FRPM. http://schoolprofiles.fcps.edu/schlprfl/f?p=108:13:::NO:0_CURRENT_SCHOOL_ID,P0_EDSL:103,0

Bailey's Upper School is over 68% LEP and 75.92% FRPM. The Minority Student Achievement 2017 report combines statistics on Black and Hispanic often combining white-Asian. Now when TJ is 75% Asian why are those combined?

Page 13 of 32 lists Hybla Valley at 91% Black and Hispanic. Now the real breakdown is 81% Hispanic , 5% Asian, 10% Black, 2 % white, etc.
65% Limited English Proficiency so if every Asian and Black student got LEP that still leaves 50%-remove white or other and the school hypothetically still has 47% Hispanic LEP .

So why is data combined on Black and Hispanic?

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Anonymous wrote:Many Africans and Haitians are posting extensive defenses of their countries on Facebook. When asked why they left they'd countries, they answer a variant of what the US offers them. I find it interesting that they left countries but now jump to their defense.

Oh stop being disingenuous.

The president didn't say "there are serious problems in Hait and some African countries." If he had no one would have disagreed with that. Instead, he dismissed them with a vulgarity, and implied their inhabitants are not the sort of people we want in the US. Here's a hint: that's an insult.

How many Americans go ape-shit if people say anything negative about this country. How many times do you hear "leave this country if you don't like it" or "love it or leave it" or "my country right or wrong" -- just because someone dares to critique something about the US that can be improved?

Except that Trump, of course, can imply America's not great rignt now (MAGA) and these same people go wild with applause.

Ethiopia is a shithole. In fact the late Emperor Haile Selassie's head was stuff in a toilet full of shit when the opposition killed him. The Haitians and Africans posting on Facebook are defending the shithole countries they fled. Not disingenuous, simply reality. No one is leaving Norway because it's not a shithole. Few people immigrate from the US because it's not a shithold. Many people leave South Sunda, because it is a shithole Many people leave Equitorial Guinea because it is a shithole. If these places were so great, why would people leave them? No one can or will answer this question.

Spot-on. You're my new favorite poster.
We have friends who travel extensively throughout Europe. They were appalled by Trump's "shithole" comment, so we asked if they had ever considered traveling to Haiti or any African countries. Of course, their answer was no. "But why?" we asked. Crickets.

Has our education system really failed to this extent?

Trump implied that the people coming from these countries have something wrong with them. That is vicious and untrue.

Sadly yes, our education system has failed. The way racism supersedes basic critical thinking skills in the minds of so many proves that out.

Our educational system is strained to the point of failure in many places because of the extremely large numbers of students for whom we're trying to provide the needed education to attend college and/or technical training while also providing special needs services, breakfast/lunch/snacks/weekend backpacks, counseling, psychological evaluations, medical treatment, after school care, music and art opportunities, second language instruction, etc. IT IS EXPENSIVE.

And then add in the liberal fight to provide sanctuary for illegal immigrants, and we have some schools where 1/3 of the students are ESOL. That comes with big costs - both quantifiable and unquantifiable.

1/3 ESOL? Bailey's 65.48 English Learner and 71.9 FRPM. http://schoolprofiles.fcps.edu/schlprfl/f?p=108:13:::NO:0_CURRENT_SCHOOL_ID,P0_EDSL:103,0

Bailey's Upper School is over 68% LEP and 75.92% FRPM. The Minority Student Achievement 2017 report combines statistics on Black and Hispanic often combining white-Asian. Now when TJ is 75% Asian why are those combined?

Page 13 of 32 lists Hybla Valley at 91% Black and Hispanic. Now the real breakdown is 81% Hispanic , 5% Asian, 10% Black, 2 % white, etc.
65% Limited English Proficiency so if every Asian and Black student got LEP that still leaves 50%-remove white or other and the school hypothetically still has 47% Hispanic LEP .

So why is data combined on Black and Hispanic?

I'm thinking it's a rhetorical question, but I suspect they want to hide the percentage of Hispanics who are from illegal families. It demonstrates the true societal cost of illegal immigration, which liberals deny.

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Anonymous wrote:Many Africans and Haitians are posting extensive defenses of their countries on Facebook. When asked why they left they'd countries, they answer a variant of what the US offers them. I find it interesting that they left countries but now jump to their defense.

Oh stop being disingenuous.

The president didn't say "there are serious problems in Hait and some African countries." If he had no one would have disagreed with that. Instead, he dismissed them with a vulgarity, and implied their inhabitants are not the sort of people we want in the US. Here's a hint: that's an insult.

How many Americans go ape-shit if people say anything negative about this country. How many times do you hear "leave this country if you don't like it" or "love it or leave it" or "my country right or wrong" -- just because someone dares to critique something about the US that can be improved?

Except that Trump, of course, can imply America's not great rignt now (MAGA) and these same people go wild with applause.

Ethiopia is a shithole. In fact the late Emperor Haile Selassie's head was stuff in a toilet full of shit when the opposition killed him. The Haitians and Africans posting on Facebook are defending the shithole countries they fled. Not disingenuous, simply reality. No one is leaving Norway because it's not a shithole. Few people immigrate from the US because it's not a shithold. Many people leave South Sunda, because it is a shithole Many people leave Equitorial Guinea because it is a shithole. If these places were so great, why would people leave them? No one can or will answer this question.

Spot-on. You're my new favorite poster.
We have friends who travel extensively throughout Europe. They were appalled by Trump's "shithole" comment, so we asked if they had ever considered traveling to Haiti or any African countries. Of course, their answer was no. "But why?" we asked. Crickets.

Has our education system really failed to this extent?

Trump implied that the people coming from these countries have something wrong with them. That is vicious and untrue.

Sadly yes, our education system has failed. The way racism supersedes basic critical thinking skills in the minds of so many proves that out.

Hardlly. Our education system is to blame, but not for what you said. Colleges are teaching that whiteness is a problem and that critical thinking and independent judgement will be condemned. Fall in line behind the liberal mantra, or face the consequences - up to and including death threads.

What crappy news source told you this?

Truthiness.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can someone please ask Trump during his next presss conference whether Slovenia is a shithole?

Actually, no. It's a picturesque, safe and friendly country. Perfect for retirement, but for young people probably not.

Why don't young people like it there? I see a lot of Slovenians in their late teens-early 20s at our beach town every summer, working at the grocery stores, tourist shops, hotel pools, etc. Our neighborhood pool also hires them as lifeguards until the neighborhood college kids get home for the summer. Apparently there's a huge market for them to come to America and quite a few are interested in staying permanently if they can figure out a way to do so (i.e., fall in love quickly and marry an American citizen).

Frenzied person attacking Slovenia, why exactly? Because of Melania, clearly.

Why don't you google pictures of Slovenia and you'll learn a little about the place. It's the most wooded/green country in Europe for starters. You'll have to work pretty hard to find a single bad picture.

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Anonymous wrote:I’ve never been to Africa or Haiti, but have friends who have lived in both and they conceded that they are challenging places but they also have good things to say about the people they met there. To me, the most offensive thing about Trump’s comments is not that the places themselves are shitholes, but that the people that live there are somehow second class and not deserving of entrance to America. There are some posters on here who similarly seem to think that Haitian and Afraid can immigrants are only good for menial, manual labor jobs. Clearly they don’t know many immigrants from these countries. The ones I know are so grateful for their opportunity, work hard, and co tribute more to our economy than you realize.

On the other hand, while yes, there are fewer jobs building railroads, etc., the service sector is huge and Americans have an aversion to farm labor. So Trump et al. will need to find a way to fill these positions if they cutoff immigration of low-skill workers.

Please tell us the jobs held by the many immigrants you know.

Personally? Ok, here are a few.

Several colleagues in my office are immigrants- one is from from Africa, completed his Phd in the US and was hired as a government contractor after he finished. He actually does want to go back to his country but it’s just not feasible right now.

My dental hygienist is Haitian.

All the childcare workers at our daycare are immigrants. One was trained as an engineer in her native country!

Several fellow students in my graduate program. Most are now gainfully employed.

Several people at my church, working in various professions I assume, I dont grill them on that when they smile and greet me however.

There are more but I need to get back to chores now.

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PP again- oh and my hairstylist is from a shithole country too.

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone please ask Trump during his next presss conference whether Slovenia is a shithole?

Actually, no. It's a picturesque, safe and friendly country. Perfect for retirement, but for young people probably not.

Why don't young people like it there? I see a lot of Slovenians in their late teens-early 20s at our beach town every summer, working at the grocery stores, tourist shops, hotel pools, etc. Our neighborhood pool also hires them as lifeguards until the neighborhood college kids get home for the summer. Apparently there's a huge market for them to come to America and quite a few are interested in staying permanently if they can figure out a way to do so (i.e., fall in love quickly and marry an American citizen).

Frenzied person attacking Slovenia, why exactly? Because of Melania, clearly.

Why don't you google pictures of Slovenia and you'll learn a little about the place. It's the most wooded/green country in Europe for starters. You'll have to work pretty hard to find a single bad picture.

If it's so great why did Melania leave?

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Anonymous wrote:Many Africans and Haitians are posting extensive defenses of their countries on Facebook. When asked why they left they'd countries, they answer a variant of what the US offers them. I find it interesting that they left countries but now jump to their defense.

Oh stop being disingenuous.

The president didn't say "there are serious problems in Hait and some African countries." If he had no one would have disagreed with that. Instead, he dismissed them with a vulgarity, and implied their inhabitants are not the sort of people we want in the US. Here's a hint: that's an insult.

How many Americans go ape-shit if people say anything negative about this country. How many times do you hear "leave this country if you don't like it" or "love it or leave it" or "my country right or wrong" -- just because someone dares to critique something about the US that can be improved?

Except that Trump, of course, can imply America's not great rignt now (MAGA) and these same people go wild with applause.

Ethiopia is a shithole. In fact the late Emperor Haile Selassie's head was stuff in a toilet full of shit when the opposition killed him. The Haitians and Africans posting on Facebook are defending the shithole countries they fled. Not disingenuous, simply reality. No one is leaving Norway because it's not a shithole. Few people immigrate from the US because it's not a shithold. Many people leave South Sunda, because it is a shithole Many people leave Equitorial Guinea because it is a shithole. If these places were so great, why would people leave them? No one can or will answer this question.

Spot-on. You're my new favorite poster.
We have friends who travel extensively throughout Europe. They were appalled by Trump's "shithole" comment, so we asked if they had ever considered traveling to Haiti or any African countries. Of course, their answer was no. "But why?" we asked. Crickets.

Has our education system really failed to this extent?

Trump implied that the people coming from these countries have something wrong with them. That is vicious and untrue.

Sadly yes, our education system has failed. The way racism supersedes basic critical thinking skills in the minds of so many proves that out.

Hardlly. Our education system is to blame, but not for what you said. Colleges are teaching that whiteness is a problem and that critical thinking and independent judgement will be condemned. Fall in line behind the liberal mantra, or face the consequences - up to and including death threads.

What crappy news source told you this?

Truthiness.

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