Trump - “Why are we having all these people from shithole countries come here?”

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Anonymous wrote:Many Africans and Haitians are posting extensive defenses of their countries on Facebook. When asked why they left they'd countries, they answer a variant of what the US offers them. I find it interesting that they left countries but now jump to their defense.

Oh stop being disingenuous.

The president didn't say "there are serious problems in Hait and some African countries." If he had no one would have disagreed with that. Instead, he dismissed them with a vulgarity, and implied their inhabitants are not the sort of people we want in the US. Here's a hint: that's an insult.

How many Americans go ape-shit if people say anything negative about this country. How many times do you hear "leave this country if you don't like it" or "love it or leave it" or "my country right or wrong" -- just because someone dares to critique something about the US that can be improved?

Except that Trump, of course, can imply America's not great rignt now (MAGA) and these same people go wild with applause.

Ethiopia is a shithole. In fact the late Emperor Haile Selassie's head was stuff in a toilet full of shit when the opposition killed him. The Haitians and Africans posting on Facebook are defending the shithole countries they fled. Not disingenuous, simply reality. No one is leaving Norway because it's not a shithole. Few people immigrate from the US because it's not a shithold. Many people leave South Sunda, because it is a shithole Many people leave Equitorial Guinea because it is a shithole. If these places were so great, why would people leave them? No one can or will answer this question.

Spot-on. You're my new favorite poster.
We have friends who travel extensively throughout Europe. They were appalled by Trump's "shithole" comment, so we asked if they had ever considered traveling to Haiti or any African countries. Of course, their answer was no. "But why?" we asked. Crickets.

The only Americans I met in Haiti outside of Port au Prince were conservative Christian aid workers. In several African countries the Chinese are rebuilding the infrastructure to establish factories and shipping centers because Africans work for less than the Chinese. If they can continue the economic colonization in sub-Saharan Africa, fewer people may leave. Rwanda was a prime shitholeb following the genocide, now the Chinese have cleaned it up

The Chinese saw an opportunity and made an investment. Their influence is quietly spreading across the continent.

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I’ve never been to Africa or Haiti, but have friends who have lived in both and they conceded that they are challenging places but they also have good things to say about the people they met there. To me, the most offensive thing about Trump’s comments is not that the places themselves are shitholes, but that the people that live there are somehow second class and not deserving of entrance to America. There are some posters on here who similarly seem to think that Haitian and Afraid can immigrants are only good for menial, manual labor jobs. Clearly they don’t know many immigrants from these countries. The ones I know are so grateful for their opportunity, work hard, and co tribute more to our economy than you realize.

On the other hand, while yes, there are fewer jobs building railroads, etc., the service sector is huge and Americans have an aversion to farm labor. So Trump et al. will need to find a way to fill these positions if they cutoff immigration of low-skill workers.

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**African, not Afraid

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Anonymous wrote:Many Africans and Haitians are posting extensive defenses of their countries on Facebook. When asked why they left they'd countries, they answer a variant of what the US offers them. I find it interesting that they left countries but now jump to their defense.

Oh stop being disingenuous.

The president didn't say "there are serious problems in Hait and some African countries." If he had no one would have disagreed with that. Instead, he dismissed them with a vulgarity, and implied their inhabitants are not the sort of people we want in the US. Here's a hint: that's an insult.

How many Americans go ape-shit if people say anything negative about this country. How many times do you hear "leave this country if you don't like it" or "love it or leave it" or "my country right or wrong" -- just because someone dares to critique something about the US that can be improved?

Except that Trump, of course, can imply America's not great rignt now (MAGA) and these same people go wild with applause.

Ethiopia is a shithole. In fact the late Emperor Haile Selassie's head was stuff in a toilet full of shit when the opposition killed him. The Haitians and Africans posting on Facebook are defending the shithole countries they fled. Not disingenuous, simply reality. No one is leaving Norway because it's not a shithole. Few people immigrate from the US because it's not a shithold. Many people leave South Sunda, because it is a shithole Many people leave Equitorial Guinea because it is a shithole. If these places were so great, why would people leave them? No one can or will answer this question.

Spot-on. You're my new favorite poster.
We have friends who travel extensively throughout Europe. They were appalled by Trump's "shithole" comment, so we asked if they had ever considered traveling to Haiti or any African countries. Of course, their answer was no. "But why?" we asked. Crickets.

The only Americans I met in Haiti outside of Port au Prince were conservative Christian aid workers. In several African countries the Chinese are rebuilding the infrastructure to establish factories and shipping centers because Africans work for less than the Chinese. If they can continue the economic colonization in sub-Saharan Africa, fewer people may leave. Rwanda was a prime shitholeb following the genocide, now the Chinese have cleaned it up

The Chinese saw an opportunity and made an investment. Their influence is quietly spreading across the continent.

It is and to be honest they have no issues about any exploitation of the African population. The Chinese don't consider Africans to be fully human. Europeans once had this attitude as well.

https://qz.com/1110191/africans-in-china-an-exhibit-comparing-africans-to-animals-shows-the-chinese-problematic-racial-attitudes/

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A poem by a socialist attached to a French sculpture (intended to be given to Egypt) is no basis for policy.

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Anonymous wrote:Many Africans and Haitians are posting extensive defenses of their countries on Facebook. When asked why they left they'd countries, they answer a variant of what the US offers them. I find it interesting that they left countries but now jump to their defense.

Oh stop being disingenuous.

The president didn't say "there are serious problems in Hait and some African countries." If he had no one would have disagreed with that. Instead, he dismissed them with a vulgarity, and implied their inhabitants are not the sort of people we want in the US. Here's a hint: that's an insult.

How many Americans go ape-shit if people say anything negative about this country. How many times do you hear "leave this country if you don't like it" or "love it or leave it" or "my country right or wrong" -- just because someone dares to critique something about the US that can be improved?

Except that Trump, of course, can imply America's not great rignt now (MAGA) and these same people go wild with applause.

Ethiopia is a shithole. In fact the late Emperor Haile Selassie's head was stuff in a toilet full of shit when the opposition killed him. The Haitians and Africans posting on Facebook are defending the shithole countries they fled. Not disingenuous, simply reality. No one is leaving Norway because it's not a shithole. Few people immigrate from the US because it's not a shithold. Many people leave South Sunda, because it is a shithole Many people leave Equitorial Guinea because it is a shithole. If these places were so great, why would people leave them? No one can or will answer this question.

Spot-on. You're my new favorite poster.
We have friends who travel extensively throughout Europe. They were appalled by Trump's "shithole" comment, so we asked if they had ever considered traveling to Haiti or any African countries. Of course, their answer was no. "But why?" we asked. Crickets.

Has our education system really failed to this extent?

Trump implied that the people coming from these countries have something wrong with them. That is vicious and untrue.

Perhaps you inferred what you want to say, but your adherence to political correctness does not permit it.

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Anonymous wrote:A poem by a socialist attached to a French sculpture (intended to be given to Egypt) is no basis for policy.

Intended to be sold to Egypt. The statue is of an Egyptian woman and was to be at the entrance to the Suez Canal. When the Egyptians wouldn't pay up, the French re-marketed the statue to other countries who didn't want it. Thus they stuck it in the US. You know what they say about the French in wars? The same is true in commerce.

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Anonymous wrote:A poem by a socialist attached to a French sculpture (intended to be given to Egypt) is no basis for policy.

Thanks Steve. Are you leading the efforts to tear it all down? I bet the price for scrap will pay for some gold toilets in the White House.

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Anonymous wrote:Many Africans and Haitians are posting extensive defenses of their countries on Facebook. When asked why they left they'd countries, they answer a variant of what the US offers them. I find it interesting that they left countries but now jump to their defense.

Oh stop being disingenuous.

The president didn't say "there are serious problems in Hait and some African countries." If he had no one would have disagreed with that. Instead, he dismissed them with a vulgarity, and implied their inhabitants are not the sort of people we want in the US. Here's a hint: that's an insult.

How many Americans go ape-shit if people say anything negative about this country. How many times do you hear "leave this country if you don't like it" or "love it or leave it" or "my country right or wrong" -- just because someone dares to critique something about the US that can be improved?

Except that Trump, of course, can imply America's not great rignt now (MAGA) and these same people go wild with applause.

Ethiopia is a shithole. In fact the late Emperor Haile Selassie's head was stuff in a toilet full of shit when the opposition killed him. The Haitians and Africans posting on Facebook are defending the shithole countries they fled. Not disingenuous, simply reality. No one is leaving Norway because it's not a shithole. Few people immigrate from the US because it's not a shithold. Many people leave South Sunda, because it is a shithole Many people leave Equitorial Guinea because it is a shithole. If these places were so great, why would people leave them? No one can or will answer this question.

Spot-on. You're my new favorite poster.
We have friends who travel extensively throughout Europe. They were appalled by Trump's "shithole" comment, so we asked if they had ever considered traveling to Haiti or any African countries. Of course, their answer was no. "But why?" we asked. Crickets.

Has our education system really failed to this extent?

Trump implied that the people coming from these countries have something wrong with them. That is vicious and untrue.

Sadly yes, our education system has failed. The way racism supersedes basic critical thinking skills in the minds of so many proves that out.

Hardlly. Our education system is to blame, but not for what you said. Colleges are teaching that whiteness is a problem and that critical thinking and independent judgement will be condemned. Fall in line behind the liberal mantra, or face the consequences - up to and including death threads.

Death threads, huh?

Sounds like quite a tangled mess. Perhaps you should give us some sources to keep us in the loop. It seems like you have quite a tapestry of persecuted feelings to deal with. Help us sew the pieces together here.

Cute comeback, but really....focus on a one-letter typo rather than address the hate and intolerance on the left? Should the party that pats itself on its collective back for its "inclusiveness" really threaten people with different opinions?

Wah wah I’m conservative and the liberals keep hurting my feewings! They’re not even taking death threads seriously! Someone could get strangled!

Hopefully a liberal.

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Anonymous wrote:A poem by a socialist attached to a French sculpture (intended to be given to Egypt) is no basis for policy.

Then have a legal policy. Not impulsive angry rants, and certainly not a cruel half-baked bizarre executive order which interfered with green card holders from returning home to the country they've already been legally allowed to grow old and die in. (And no, "vetting" wasn't the issue, because at that time, the people who drafted that executive order had not yet had any communication with law enforcement and intelligence agencies who have that knowledge.)

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Many Africans and Haitians are posting extensive defenses of their countries on Facebook. When asked why they left they'd countries, they answer a variant of what the US offers them. I find it interesting that they left countries but now jump to their defense.

Oh stop being disingenuous.

The president didn't say "there are serious problems in Hait and some African countries." If he had no one would have disagreed with that. Instead, he dismissed them with a vulgarity, and implied their inhabitants are not the sort of people we want in the US. Here's a hint: that's an insult.

How many Americans go ape-shit if people say anything negative about this country. How many times do you hear "leave this country if you don't like it" or "love it or leave it" or "my country right or wrong" -- just because someone dares to critique something about the US that can be improved?

Except that Trump, of course, can imply America's not great rignt now (MAGA) and these same people go wild with applause.

Ethiopia is a shithole. In fact the late Emperor Haile Selassie's head was stuff in a toilet full of shit when the opposition killed him. The Haitians and Africans posting on Facebook are defending the shithole countries they fled. Not disingenuous, simply reality. No one is leaving Norway because it's not a shithole. Few people immigrate from the US because it's not a shithold. Many people leave South Sunda, because it is a shithole Many people leave Equitorial Guinea because it is a shithole. If these places were so great, why would people leave them? No one can or will answer this question.

Spot-on. You're my new favorite poster.
We have friends who travel extensively throughout Europe. They were appalled by Trump's "shithole" comment, so we asked if they had ever considered traveling to Haiti or any African countries. Of course, their answer was no. "But why?" we asked. Crickets.

Do you really not know people who have been to Haiti and Africa? Jesus. Rubes. No wonder you are the way you are. Embarrassing to the country.

DP rube whose worked in Haiti and 27 African countries. One can get to many places when stationed in Dijbouti. Do tell us of your African jaunts, PP.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Many Africans and Haitians are posting extensive defenses of their countries on Facebook. When asked why they left they'd countries, they answer a variant of what the US offers them. I find it interesting that they left countries but now jump to their defense.

Oh stop being disingenuous.

The president didn't say "there are serious problems in Hait and some African countries." If he had no one would have disagreed with that. Instead, he dismissed them with a vulgarity, and implied their inhabitants are not the sort of people we want in the US. Here's a hint: that's an insult.

How many Americans go ape-shit if people say anything negative about this country. How many times do you hear "leave this country if you don't like it" or "love it or leave it" or "my country right or wrong" -- just because someone dares to critique something about the US that can be improved?

Except that Trump, of course, can imply America's not great rignt now (MAGA) and these same people go wild with applause.

Ethiopia is a shithole. In fact the late Emperor Haile Selassie's head was stuff in a toilet full of shit when the opposition killed him. The Haitians and Africans posting on Facebook are defending the shithole countries they fled. Not disingenuous, simply reality. No one is leaving Norway because it's not a shithole. Few people immigrate from the US because it's not a shithold. Many people leave South Sunda, because it is a shithole Many people leave Equitorial Guinea because it is a shithole. If these places were so great, why would people leave them? No one can or will answer this question.

Spot-on. You're my new favorite poster.
We have friends who travel extensively throughout Europe. They were appalled by Trump's "shithole" comment, so we asked if they had ever considered traveling to Haiti or any African countries. Of course, their answer was no. "But why?" we asked. Crickets.

The only Americans I met in Haiti outside of Port au Prince were conservative Christian aid workers. In several African countries the Chinese are rebuilding the infrastructure to establish factories and shipping centers because Africans work for less than the Chinese. If they can continue the economic colonization in sub-Saharan Africa, fewer people may leave. Rwanda was a prime shitholeb following the genocide, now the Chinese have cleaned it up

The Chinese saw an opportunity and made an investment. Their influence is quietly spreading across the continent.

That's right. Once they foisted off the trouble makers to the US, the shithole countries turned to the Chinese whose influence is loudly spreading across the continent. You must be in the State Department to not understand the extent of Chinese re-colonisation of Africa.

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Anonymous wrote:I’ve never been to Africa or Haiti, but have friends who have lived in both and they conceded that they are challenging places but they also have good things to say about the people they met there. To me, the most offensive thing about Trump’s comments is not that the places themselves are shitholes, but that the people that live there are somehow second class and not deserving of entrance to America. There are some posters on here who similarly seem to think that Haitian and Afraid can immigrants are only good for menial, manual labor jobs. Clearly they don’t know many immigrants from these countries. The ones I know are so grateful for their opportunity, work hard, and co tribute more to our economy than you realize.

On the other hand, while yes, there are fewer jobs building railroads, etc., the service sector is huge and Americans have an aversion to farm labor. So Trump et al. will need to find a way to fill these positions if they cutoff immigration of low-skill workers.

Please tell us the jobs held by the many immigrants you know.

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Anonymous wrote:I’ve never been to Africa or Haiti, but have friends who have lived in both and they conceded that they are challenging places but they also have good things to say about the people they met there. To me, the most offensive thing about Trump’s comments is not that the places themselves are shitholes, but that the people that live there are somehow second class and not deserving of entrance to America. There are some posters on here who similarly seem to think that Haitian and Afraid can immigrants are only good for menial, manual labor jobs. Clearly they don’t know many immigrants from these countries. The ones I know are so grateful for their opportunity, work hard, and co tribute more to our economy than you realize.

On the other hand, while yes, there are fewer jobs building railroads, etc., the service sector is huge and Americans have an aversion to farm labor. So Trump et al. will need to find a way to fill these positions if they cutoff immigration of low-skill workers.

Please tell us the jobs held by the many immigrants you know.

NP here but here are three jobs held by immigrants that I encountered yesterday: The vascular surgeon who saved my father's life, the amazing nurse who kept my family updated and calm, and the kindest parking attendant I have ever encountered (when I mentioned his kindness, he told me that the people who come here have far bigger worries than he does).

That was just yesterday.

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Many Africans and Haitians are posting extensive defenses of their countries on Facebook. When asked why they left they'd countries, they answer a variant of what the US offers them. I find it interesting that they left countries but now jump to their defense.

Oh stop being disingenuous.

The president didn't say "there are serious problems in Hait and some African countries." If he had no one would have disagreed with that. Instead, he dismissed them with a vulgarity, and implied their inhabitants are not the sort of people we want in the US. Here's a hint: that's an insult.

How many Americans go ape-shit if people say anything negative about this country. How many times do you hear "leave this country if you don't like it" or "love it or leave it" or "my country right or wrong" -- just because someone dares to critique something about the US that can be improved?

Except that Trump, of course, can imply America's not great rignt now (MAGA) and these same people go wild with applause.

Ethiopia is a shithole. In fact the late Emperor Haile Selassie's head was stuff in a toilet full of shit when the opposition killed him. The Haitians and Africans posting on Facebook are defending the shithole countries they fled. Not disingenuous, simply reality. No one is leaving Norway because it's not a shithole. Few people immigrate from the US because it's not a shithold. Many people leave South Sunda, because it is a shithole Many people leave Equitorial Guinea because it is a shithole. If these places were so great, why would people leave them? No one can or will answer this question.

Spot-on. You're my new favorite poster.
We have friends who travel extensively throughout Europe. They were appalled by Trump's "shithole" comment, so we asked if they had ever considered traveling to Haiti or any African countries. Of course, their answer was no. "But why?" we asked. Crickets.

The only Americans I met in Haiti outside of Port au Prince were conservative Christian aid workers. In several African countries the Chinese are rebuilding the infrastructure to establish factories and shipping centers because Africans work for less than the Chinese. If they can continue the economic colonization in sub-Saharan Africa, fewer people may leave. Rwanda was a prime shitholeb following the genocide, now the Chinese have cleaned it up

I have wondered when that was going to happen. China's eventually going to run out of cheap labor as their standards of living grows so they are expanding to the last place where you can still find cheap labor and people willing to work for pennies.