Tourist submersible missing on visit to Titanic

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I hope these people are found and rescued, and that with their billions they will pay back the costs of being rescued from what I agree was entirely a vanity project at now great financial and emotional cost to the public.

I guess you feel the titanic victims themselves should have been billed for their rescue.

Traveling via a normal mode of transportation is not a vanity project, so no.

As if Titanic was not a vanity project. You are delusional.

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The rescue mission is good practice and engineering. And good viral recruitment opportunity for the Navy and Coast Guard.

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Anonymous wrote:On a scale of recklessness, is going to space with bezos significantly less crazy? I’m guessing it is, but curious for opinions.

I am assuming that all of this equipment was tested and up to safety standards, and if that is correct, then yes I think it's significantly less crazy. Another bonus point for him is the fact that the space craft actually had windows so he could see what he was exploring instead of watching it on TV.

But I hate that I'm saying anything good about Bezos, yuck.

Wait they only had video links to the sea?

Well there was one teeny little window where one person at a time could look through and of course the bottom of the ocean is pretty dark. Bezos and his buddies had an awesome view.

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Anonymous wrote:The rescue mission is good practice and engineering. And good viral recruitment opportunity for the Navy and Coast Guard.

That and it's part of a show of international goodwill. It's not just about the expense and who is worthy and who is not.

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I hope these people are found and rescued, and that with their billions they will pay back the costs of being rescued from what I agree was entirely a vanity project at now great financial and emotional cost to the public.

I guess you feel the titanic victims themselves should have been billed for their rescue.

Traveling via a normal mode of transportation is not a vanity project, so no.

I don't care about the cost of this rescue mission. The government wastes so much money on a daily basis, this is a drop in the bucket. It's hard to get excited about this. Our tax dollars are often wasted. So what.

You don't have to get excited about this but on balance I think that it would be better the billionaires to pay for their own search and rescue missions instead of the taxpayers.

I can think of lots of ways to spare taxpayers. This barely registers.

Okay, but I'm not wrong.

Well you are, because they won't be billed.

LOL I am not saying they will be billed.

You've decided that you're right about who should pay and who shouldn't. Who agrees with you? Not the Coast Guard and US Government. So, what exactly are you right about? The government wastes a shit ton of money every day. And you think stopping these rare rescues would make even the slightest difference?

A lot of people agree with me but that isn't even the point, I think that if you sit and think for one minute whether a billionaire--one individual who has a THOUSAND million dollars--should pay for a rescue operation, or if it should be the US government which is financed in large part through working people, you should pick the billionaire.

And in case this wasn't clear, this is just a thought exercise.

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Anonymous wrote:I feel bad for the kid. I also think it's a shame to lose Nargeolet, who seems like an incredible person. Though he'd been down there dozens of times before and probably only had to look at that tin can to know he wouldn't be coming back. I imagine that he'd want to die in the Ocean.
The two rich dudes? I'm sad for their families.
The CEO can rot.

I feel bad about Nargeolet as well.

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The Chilean mine rescue was way more fun that this. And it had a happy ending.

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone think the vessel will actually ever be found? It's a literal needle in a huge haystack.

I don't think it will ever be found. But we will look for it for many months, like with MH370.

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Anonymous wrote:Stop FTLOG referring to the window as a portal.

It is spelled porthole!

You have people on this thread insisting that sharks are mammals, so that should tell you about the level of discourse.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m angry that hundreds of millions of people are being potentially traumatized by this awful incident as the world watches them die via 24/7 media coverage.

I’m angry about the massive waste of resources from the common wealth that is being expended on this pointless effort to rescue incredibly foolhardy billionaires and con artists. It’s way beyond the value of 5 individual lives and the fact that it is being done is just another manifestation of human frailty and more hubris.

I’ll be glad when this story is gone from the front pages of everything. Hopefully by the weekend. May the adventurers RIP.

Who is being traumatized by this? It’s not happening to hundreds of millions of people.

This. No one is coming to your house to force you to turn on the TV or read the newspaper, news sites or any online discussions like this one. Don’t look.

That PP reminds me of the people who make melodramatic social media posts detailing every minute of their own day on 9/11, the Challenger explosion, etc every year on the anniversaries, while having no direct connection and being hundreds of miles away. Attention seeking and gross.

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Anonymous wrote:On a scale of recklessness, is going to space with bezos significantly less crazy? I’m guessing it is, but curious for opinions.

I am assuming that all of this equipment was tested and up to safety standards, and if that is correct, then yes I think it's significantly less crazy. Another bonus point for him is the fact that the space craft actually had windows so he could see what he was exploring instead of watching it on TV.

But I hate that I'm saying anything good about Bezos, yuck.

The British Billionaire had gone to space on Bozos' trip (there is a video clip on his personal IG which is set to public - it made my palms sweat watching that let alone this teeny tiny tin can to the depths of the ocean) so he did both (as well as other explorer trips which a lot of people would deem risky). This is how he wanted to spend his money.

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone think the vessel will actually ever be found? It's a literal needle in a huge haystack.

I don't think it will ever be found. But we will look for it for many months, like with MH370.

Agree

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Anonymous wrote:

I hope these people are found and rescued, and that with their billions they will pay back the costs of being rescued from what I agree was entirely a vanity project at now great financial and emotional cost to the public.

I guess you feel the titanic victims themselves should have been billed for their rescue.

Traveling via a normal mode of transportation is not a vanity project, so no.

I don't care about the cost of this rescue mission. The government wastes so much money on a daily basis, this is a drop in the bucket. It's hard to get excited about this. Our tax dollars are often wasted. So what.

You don't have to get excited about this but on balance I think that it would be better the billionaires to pay for their own search and rescue missions instead of the taxpayers.

I can think of lots of ways to spare taxpayers. This barely registers.

Okay, but I'm not wrong.

Well you are, because they won't be billed.

LOL I am not saying they will be billed.

You've decided that you're right about who should pay and who shouldn't. Who agrees with you? Not the Coast Guard and US Government. So, what exactly are you right about? The government wastes a shit ton of money every day. And you think stopping these rare rescues would make even the slightest difference?

A lot of people agree with me but that isn't even the point, I think that if you sit and think for one minute whether a billionaire--one individual who has a THOUSAND million dollars--should pay for a rescue operation, or if it should be the US government which is financed in large part through working people, you should pick the billionaire.

And in case this wasn't clear, this is just a thought exercise.

Whatever. Get over it.

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Anonymous wrote:from what I can read we have:

-No safety redundancy
-No safety training for submarine problems
-No systems redundancy
-No backups for tracking
-No "Deadman's switch" that would surface the craft if something went wrong
-No way to track the vessel if the first system failed
-No way of testing hull integrity prior to each dive
-No way of knowing the number of dives each hull can take before it becomes unsafe to operate

It was a failure waiting to happen

I hope the crew is found and can be brought home alive. Can't imagine what their families are going through.

At those depths, none of those things are of any use.

It would be enlightening to see a safety feature comparison between the Titan and the other deep diving submersibles that have made the same trip.

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Anonymous wrote:The crane idea was mentioned yesterday on NPR by some expert. I can't remember who he was, but they were consulting him on the story. It's not ridiculous.

Training dolphins is...

Done in the Navy, so why not?

https://www.niwcpacific.navy.mil/marine-mammal-program/

In the amount of hours of oxygen that “craft” has left in the unlikely event it hasn’t already imploded?

Yes. Get out there and start training those dolphins.