This is correct. The furthest thing from Joe Lieberman's agenda is helping the Trump led GOP in any way. Their push for unity has led to some successful bi-partisan legislation. They have a purpose and they every right to serve as a platform for a 3rd party candidate but at this point they have no horse in the race. If and when they do have a horse in the race and therefore we know who that horse is, the No Labels effect can then be prejudged and discussed. |
This is DCUM. No labels possible horses can be discussed right now. That is the point of a forum. So, what is no labels up to and how are they going to try to do it? |
I reiterated “Nader, Nader, Sanders/Stein” to indicate that we’ve been down this third party spoiler route before. It’s useless. No Labels is trying to spoil the election for the GOP. Prove that they’re not. |
The biggest problem we face in this country right now is the choices we have for two awful choices. We need a new system the current two party system is not working. Support third party now to hopefully build for tomorrow. |
Who says we have two bad choices? Biden has been one of the most successful presidents ever and he will win. No Labels are a bunch of spoilers, mad that Biden may make them paid what they own in taxes. |
Sorry, kiddo. If you want a third party - something our system doesn’t allow for, and, as a Republican, you know it - you work for it from the ground up, not from the White House down. The biggest problem we face as a country is that the GOP has ceased to be a political party. It’s a fascist organization. It’s a criminal enterprise. They suck. |
Like most of the rest of us, they see Trump and Biden as far from our best POTUS options and their deeply concerned over the possibility of one of them being POTUS until 2029. I have no idea of their what and how. It's a wait and see. As of today, they mean nothing to the 2024 presidential election. Considering the unprecedented weaknesses of the presumed major party candidates, the possibilities of what may happen in the 2024 presidential election are limitless. |
Oh brother. So they will try to run a spoiler. Got it. |
You are equating Green Party presidential candidates to the No Labels organization. No labels is not a 3rd party and you clearly have no idea what you're talking about but keep it up and we'll eventually take your word for it by accepting the fact that we will have a subpar president until 2029 and there is nothing the American people can do to change that fact. |
No Labels is trying to be a third party. They’ve been trying to get ballot access in swing states this whole time. What do you think it’s trying to do? |
And who do you think created the ballot access laws that make it so hard for any 3rd party to challenge the power of our two failed major political parties? Think hard. |
The constant drumbeat of “both sides” is what prevents the GOP from having to fix itself. It’s sad how bad you are at evaluating evidence. The GOP is total crap at actual governance, supports policies that are in opposition to everything America is supposed to stand for, argues that slavery wasn’t bad (subtext: “we’re gonna bring it back if we get power”), is in the act of erasing women as citizens, conspired with our enemies, tried to overthrow the government when they lost the election… and you want to pretend that No Labels is doing a good thing? Third party people get on the ballot all the time. That’s not the hurdle. The hurdle is that you have misunderstood the problem so badly and/or are working so dishonestly that there will never be a large enough group of voters who want what you’re pushing. You’re a spoiler. Whether or not you’re smart or honest enough to admit it, you’re working on behalf of the Republican Party. |
I'd disagree. They DO have to fix themselves - they just don't want to. I don't know why they are so addicted to that fart-bag loser rapist con man but they are. They've been given lots of opportunities to take the off ramp, and they've chosen not to. |
The GOP is in a state of disrepair. They are a private entity that should be kicked to the curb. The GOP won the 2016 election with the worst presidential candidate ever, came way to close to winning again in 2020 with that same candidate, and now has a 50/50 chance of winning in 2024 with that same awful candidate. If we had two fully functioning major political parties, Trump's political success would have never been possible. The Dem Party isn't in a state of disrepair quite like the GOP but dysfunction on their part has allowed the Trump led GOP to remain politically relevant. In other words, if Trump had lost in 2016 by a historically wide margin like he should have, his MAGA movement would have been squashed then and there. We must expect higher quality output from the private entities we hire to serve as vehicles carrying our ideals through government in the form of a political party. Losing to Trump is as disgraceful as being duped into voting for him. |
Only 37% of Americans agree. No incumbent has ever been elected with such a low favorability rating. |