Delta Variant and APS

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Anonymous wrote:I really think public health is making a mistake by saying everyone needs to be vaccinated in schools regardless of vax status. I am very hesitant to get my kids vaccinated because they have extremely low risk if they contract COVID and all the adults in our life are vaccinated. BUT if it meant my kid go maskless at school, I would run to get them vaccinated. Now I think I’ll wait until there’s more data. I am very wary because the US and Israel seem to be the only countries going full steam ahead on getting kids vaxxed. Even countries with good supply, like the UK, are holding off. That makes me nervous, especially when kids are very, very low risk of complication if they COVID. I do realize we don’t know the long-term effects of COVID, but we also don’t know the long-term effects of the vaccine. SO i would personally wait to get my kids vaxxed unless there was a real, tangible incentive to doing so — like being able to take off their masks.


You are being selfish. My child is immunocompromised and needs your child to get vaxxed (once approved) so my child does not get seriously sick. The longer this virus circles around, even if not killing, the more it can mutate. It's about stopping community spread and not just self protection.


The last year and a half+ has been so many soft fools espousing a position on the pandemic that is basically "it inconveniences me personally, so I'm going to ignore it and anyone who tries to do something about it, well that also inconveniences me as well"

So here's delta and soon to be epsilon?


I think the point is that there should be incentives to get your kid vaxxed - like being able to forgo the mask. Humans are selfish, that's why I agree it's a bad public health move to not incentivize students to get vaccinated. And I don't buy that it's not enforceable. You have to prove your vaccinated to register for school. COVID may not be mandatory but it will show in the health records and students will be told to wear a mask unless vaccinate. Students that wish to take their mask off will need to self-identify --perhaps they can wear a bracelet. No one will be forced to disclose status.....unless they want to take their mask off!



This has no scientific basis you all.

The vaccine does NOT stop transmission of covid infection. It can stop symptoms.

The vaccine is NOT 90-100% effective at preventing symptoms of Delta mutation. Some are saying efficacy in the 60s.

Would you use an IUD or birth control pill with 65% efficacy?

The primary strains emerging are Delta and Alpha.

So, back to 2020 logic, isn't it "selfish" to refuse to wear a mask and put others at risk of death?

In 2020, the worst strain had maybe 273x the viral load. In 2021, Delta has 1000x.

Right now, case numbers are almost zero, okay. But that can change.



None of these rebuttals are responsive to the PP at all. Misinformation is real, but what exactly are you rebutting with your post?
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Anonymous wrote:I really think public health is making a mistake by saying everyone needs to be vaccinated in schools regardless of vax status. I am very hesitant to get my kids vaccinated because they have extremely low risk if they contract COVID and all the adults in our life are vaccinated. BUT if it meant my kid go maskless at school, I would run to get them vaccinated. Now I think I’ll wait until there’s more data. I am very wary because the US and Israel seem to be the only countries going full steam ahead on getting kids vaxxed. Even countries with good supply, like the UK, are holding off. That makes me nervous, especially when kids are very, very low risk of complication if they COVID. I do realize we don’t know the long-term effects of COVID, but we also don’t know the long-term effects of the vaccine. SO i would personally wait to get my kids vaxxed unless there was a real, tangible incentive to doing so — like being able to take off their masks.


You are being selfish. My child is immunocompromised and needs your child to get vaxxed (once approved) so my child does not get seriously sick. The longer this virus circles around, even if not killing, the more it can mutate. It's about stopping community spread and not just self protection.


The last year and a half+ has been so many soft fools espousing a position on the pandemic that is basically "it inconveniences me personally, so I'm going to ignore it and anyone who tries to do something about it, well that also inconveniences me as well"

So here's delta and soon to be epsilon?


I think the point is that there should be incentives to get your kid vaxxed - like being able to forgo the mask. Humans are selfish, that's why I agree it's a bad public health move to not incentivize students to get vaccinated. And I don't buy that it's not enforceable. You have to prove your vaccinated to register for school. COVID may not be mandatory but it will show in the health records and students will be told to wear a mask unless vaccinate. Students that wish to take their mask off will need to self-identify --perhaps they can wear a bracelet. No one will be forced to disclose status.....unless they want to take their mask off!



This has no scientific basis you all.

The vaccine does NOT stop transmission of covid infection. It can stop symptoms.

The vaccine is NOT 90-100% effective at preventing symptoms of Delta mutation. Some are saying efficacy in the 60s.

Would you use an IUD or birth control pill with 65% efficacy?

The primary strains emerging are Delta and Alpha.

So, back to 2020 logic, isn't it "selfish" to refuse to wear a mask and put others at risk of death?

In 2020, the worst strain had maybe 273x the viral load. In 2021, Delta has 1000x.

Right now, case numbers are almost zero, okay. But that can change.


An incomplete study is saying that.

Complete studies are saying it starts at around 80% effectiveness.

https://www.healthline.com/health-news/heres-how-well-covid-19-vaccines-work-against-the-delta-variant

Please do not post misinformation about public health
Anonymous
Will APS follow the AAP guidance? The doctor knows best attitude runs strong in Arlington.
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Anonymous wrote:The only way APS isn't going 5x/week is if things are so bad that ALL school, including privates, are closing. Covid is endemic. Kids can, and will, get sick. But almost everyone has realized that more damage will be done if kids don't go to school. There is ZERO public appetite for keeping schools closed anymore.


Except the GOP fearmongering.


...because the GOP controls so much of the narrative around here.
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Fauci wants masks at school.
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I'm an admin in APS and this has not even been mentioned. We will be 5 days a week. I just hope not wearing a mask...


Come on. I’m a teacher and my colleagues and I accepted this week that despite how good it looked in June, delta changed the game and we will all be in masks. You know and I know.


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They were saying back in June that students would be wearing masks in the fall. If PP is really an admin, they would know this.


I really don't care about masks--wear them? Fine! My 2nd grader is better than most adults at doing so! JUST OPEN THE FLIPPING BUILDINGS AND GET THEM IN CLASSES FIVE DAYS A WEEK. That's all I care about.


Ummmm calm down. Literally nowhere is not planning on doing that.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Will APS follow the AAP guidance? The doctor knows best attitude runs strong in Arlington.


VA has already stated they are following the AAP guidance of children wearing masks regardless of vaccination status. The article is linked above.
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