Naomi Osaka withdraws from French Open

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:One part of me understand her completely, DS has social anxiety. The other part understands that she went about it the wrong way. I will not do it, the end? Yeah, how immature.
So, some interviews are ok and some are not? How come? Her anxiety is under control while playing, but not to answer a few questions?
Without the reporters, we have no reason to read and pay to watch tennis and be into the sport.
The other part says, we can have all the accommodations for gender issues but not for anxiety?
And why did she not say that right away? I have a health issue which is valid and I need this accommodation?
I mean, imagine her winning RG and not giving a speech? But, that is ok and the presser after the game is not? And it sounded like she was only against it if a player loses, based on her initial statement.
So, another part of me says she is entitled.


She is not entitled. She was ok with paying the fines. That's when they pulled the expulsion threat.

So is she ok with the expulsion? She decided to participate in an event that has its rules. They enforced those rules. Is the expulsion a part of their rules or was it arbitrarily threatened and it is not in the rule book of RG?
Anonymous
I think my biggest reason for liking Osaka is based on her press interviews. She's refreshing and genuinely humble.

Her decision to forgo press conferences because they make her anxious is not only her right, but also healthy and smart. I like her even more, now.

This interview back in 2018 is particularly telling about her mental health struggles...
https://twitter.com/abcnews4dean/status/1399455146380251136
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:One part of me understand her completely, DS has social anxiety. The other part understands that she went about it the wrong way. I will not do it, the end? Yeah, how immature.
So, some interviews are ok and some are not? How come? Her anxiety is under control while playing, but not to answer a few questions?
Without the reporters, we have no reason to read and pay to watch tennis and be into the sport.
The other part says, we can have all the accommodations for gender issues but not for anxiety?
And why did she not say that right away? I have a health issue which is valid and I need this accommodation?
I mean, imagine her winning RG and not giving a speech? But, that is ok and the presser after the game is not? And it sounded like she was only against it if a player loses, based on her initial statement.
So, another part of me says she is entitled.


She is not entitled. She was ok with paying the fines. That's when they pulled the expulsion threat.

So is she ok with the expulsion? She decided to participate in an event that has its rules. They enforced those rules. Is the expulsion a part of their rules or was it arbitrarily threatened and it is not in the rule book of RG?


She quit on her own volition. If you read her message on social media, it is actually very humble and apologetic. It is not the message of an entitled person at all.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:One part of me understand her completely, DS has social anxiety. The other part understands that she went about it the wrong way. I will not do it, the end? Yeah, how immature.
So, some interviews are ok and some are not? How come? Her anxiety is under control while playing, but not to answer a few questions?
Without the reporters, we have no reason to read and pay to watch tennis and be into the sport.
The other part says, we can have all the accommodations for gender issues but not for anxiety?
And why did she not say that right away? I have a health issue which is valid and I need this accommodation?
I mean, imagine her winning RG and not giving a speech? But, that is ok and the presser after the game is not? And it sounded like she was only against it if a player loses, based on her initial statement.
So, another part of me says she is entitled.


She is not entitled. She was ok with paying the fines. That's when they pulled the expulsion threat.

So is she ok with the expulsion? She decided to participate in an event that has its rules. They enforced those rules. Is the expulsion a part of their rules or was it arbitrarily threatened and it is not in the rule book of RG?


She quit on her own volition. If you read her message on social media, it is actually very humble and apologetic. It is not the message of an entitled person at all.

Yes, the post abut withdrawing was nice, however the one before that was vague and weird and entitled.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:One part of me understand her completely, DS has social anxiety. The other part understands that she went about it the wrong way. I will not do it, the end? Yeah, how immature.
So, some interviews are ok and some are not? How come? Her anxiety is under control while playing, but not to answer a few questions?
Without the reporters, we have no reason to read and pay to watch tennis and be into the sport.
The other part says, we can have all the accommodations for gender issues but not for anxiety?
And why did she not say that right away? I have a health issue which is valid and I need this accommodation?
I mean, imagine her winning RG and not giving a speech? But, that is ok and the presser after the game is not? And it sounded like she was only against it if a player loses, based on her initial statement.
So, another part of me says she is entitled.


She reached out to the tournament organizers in advance about her decision, and invited them to contact her to discuss it further if they had concerns. If they had done so, perhaps there’s a compromise that could have been struck to get some press access in a different format and at a different time. Instead they decided to throw the book at her, thinking they could bully her into capitulating. She called their bluff.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:One part of me understand her completely, DS has social anxiety. The other part understands that she went about it the wrong way. I will not do it, the end? Yeah, how immature.
So, some interviews are ok and some are not? How come? Her anxiety is under control while playing, but not to answer a few questions?
Without the reporters, we have no reason to read and pay to watch tennis and be into the sport.
The other part says, we can have all the accommodations for gender issues but not for anxiety?
And why did she not say that right away? I have a health issue which is valid and I need this accommodation?
I mean, imagine her winning RG and not giving a speech? But, that is ok and the presser after the game is not? And it sounded like she was only against it if a player loses, based on her initial statement.
So, another part of me says she is entitled.


She is not entitled. She was ok with paying the fines. That's when they pulled the expulsion threat.

So is she ok with the expulsion? She decided to participate in an event that has its rules. They enforced those rules. Is the expulsion a part of their rules or was it arbitrarily threatened and it is not in the rule book of RG?


She quit on her own volition. If you read her message on social media, it is actually very humble and apologetic. It is not the message of an entitled person at all.

Yes, the post abut withdrawing was nice, however the one before that was vague and weird and entitled.


Thank you for acknowledging. Now go take a page from her, and be nice yourself.
Anonymous
Naomi's mental health is the most important factor. If she hid the anxiety and depression and did the press conferences , it may make things far worse such as attempting or committing suicide as a result. I think she did the right thing. It is an individual decision and she has a legitimate medical issue.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:One part of me understand her completely, DS has social anxiety. The other part understands that she went about it the wrong way. I will not do it, the end? Yeah, how immature.
So, some interviews are ok and some are not? How come? Her anxiety is under control while playing, but not to answer a few questions?
Without the reporters, we have no reason to read and pay to watch tennis and be into the sport.
The other part says, we can have all the accommodations for gender issues but not for anxiety?
And why did she not say that right away? I have a health issue which is valid and I need this accommodation?
I mean, imagine her winning RG and not giving a speech? But, that is ok and the presser after the game is not? And it sounded like she was only against it if a player loses, based on her initial statement.
So, another part of me says she is entitled.


She reached out to the tournament organizers in advance about her decision, and invited them to contact her to discuss it further if they had concerns. If they had done so, perhaps there’s a compromise that could have been struck to get some press access in a different format and at a different time. Instead they decided to throw the book at her, thinking they could bully her into capitulating. She called their bluff.


do you think they care that she isn't participating? It's only a bluff if the otherwise cares about the outcome
Anonymous
The press is loving this, the person who suffers is Osaka.

I'm fine with the idea of mandatory press conference but these should have STRICT rules of engagement. Freedom of the press should not equal freedom to insult and verbally abuse people.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:One part of me understand her completely, DS has social anxiety. The other part understands that she went about it the wrong way. I will not do it, the end? Yeah, how immature.
So, some interviews are ok and some are not? How come? Her anxiety is under control while playing, but not to answer a few questions?
Without the reporters, we have no reason to read and pay to watch tennis and be into the sport.
The other part says, we can have all the accommodations for gender issues but not for anxiety?
And why did she not say that right away? I have a health issue which is valid and I need this accommodation?
I mean, imagine her winning RG and not giving a speech? But, that is ok and the presser after the game is not? And it sounded like she was only against it if a player loses, based on her initial statement.
So, another part of me says she is entitled.


She reached out to the tournament organizers in advance about her decision, and invited them to contact her to discuss it further if they had concerns. If they had done so, perhaps there’s a compromise that could have been struck to get some press access in a different format and at a different time. Instead they decided to throw the book at her, thinking they could bully her into capitulating. She called their bluff.


do you think they care that she isn't participating? It's only a bluff if the otherwise cares about the outcome


Do I think that a major tennis tournament cares that one of the best players on the planet refuses to play? Yes, I absolutely do.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:One part of me understand her completely, DS has social anxiety. The other part understands that she went about it the wrong way. I will not do it, the end? Yeah, how immature.
So, some interviews are ok and some are not? How come? Her anxiety is under control while playing, but not to answer a few questions?
Without the reporters, we have no reason to read and pay to watch tennis and be into the sport.
The other part says, we can have all the accommodations for gender issues but not for anxiety?
And why did she not say that right away? I have a health issue which is valid and I need this accommodation?
I mean, imagine her winning RG and not giving a speech? But, that is ok and the presser after the game is not? And it sounded like she was only against it if a player loses, based on her initial statement.
So, another part of me says she is entitled.


She reached out to the tournament organizers in advance about her decision, and invited them to contact her to discuss it further if they had concerns. If they had done so, perhaps there’s a compromise that could have been struck to get some press access in a different format and at a different time. Instead they decided to throw the book at her, thinking they could bully her into capitulating. She called their bluff.

But, I don't see it that way. She is the one that left and this is one less chance for a talented athlete to win a Grand Slam. She is the one losing in the end here. I am all for accommodating SN, we allow transgender athletes to compete and make accommodations, surely if she was honest about her reasons, some compromise could have been reached?
This all sounds like my own 19-year-old DDs rash decision-making and not thinking it through and then regretting it. If you have Social anxiety say so.
I do know a lot about it, my DS quit tennis because of it.
But, if there is a book, those are the rules and she just preemptively left before being kicked out. And then she made it sound like she is doing it for the benefit of other players!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:One part of me understand her completely, DS has social anxiety. The other part understands that she went about it the wrong way. I will not do it, the end? Yeah, how immature.
So, some interviews are ok and some are not? How come? Her anxiety is under control while playing, but not to answer a few questions?
Without the reporters, we have no reason to read and pay to watch tennis and be into the sport.
The other part says, we can have all the accommodations for gender issues but not for anxiety?
And why did she not say that right away? I have a health issue which is valid and I need this accommodation?
I mean, imagine her winning RG and not giving a speech? But, that is ok and the presser after the game is not? And it sounded like she was only against it if a player loses, based on her initial statement.
So, another part of me says she is entitled.


She is not entitled. She was ok with paying the fines. That's when they pulled the expulsion threat.

So is she ok with the expulsion? She decided to participate in an event that has its rules. They enforced those rules. Is the expulsion a part of their rules or was it arbitrarily threatened and it is not in the rule book of RG?


She quit on her own volition. If you read her message on social media, it is actually very humble and apologetic. It is not the message of an entitled person at all.

Yes, the post abut withdrawing was nice, however the one before that was vague and weird and entitled.


Thank you for acknowledging. Now go take a page from her, and be nice yourself.

I am nice. She should have handled it in a more mature manner. I certainly hope if she explained to organizers that she suffers from Social Anxiety they would have tried their best to accommodate her.
I recall how Mardy Fish felt he had to leave the sport when his social anxiety was out of control. Instead, her first post was like some justice crusader doing it for all the players.
I still recall how Serena bullied her and how terrible that was. Even if Serena and Osaka were faking that it was not a big deal. It was a big deal, Serena, don't bully those that beat you and then have them apologize for your bullying behavior.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:One part of me understand her completely, DS has social anxiety. The other part understands that she went about it the wrong way. I will not do it, the end? Yeah, how immature.
So, some interviews are ok and some are not? How come? Her anxiety is under control while playing, but not to answer a few questions?
Without the reporters, we have no reason to read and pay to watch tennis and be into the sport.
The other part says, we can have all the accommodations for gender issues but not for anxiety?
And why did she not say that right away? I have a health issue which is valid and I need this accommodation?
I mean, imagine her winning RG and not giving a speech? But, that is ok and the presser after the game is not? And it sounded like she was only against it if a player loses, based on her initial statement.
So, another part of me says she is entitled.


She is not entitled. She was ok with paying the fines. That's when they pulled the expulsion threat.

So is she ok with the expulsion? She decided to participate in an event that has its rules. They enforced those rules. Is the expulsion a part of their rules or was it arbitrarily threatened and it is not in the rule book of RG?


She quit on her own volition. If you read her message on social media, it is actually very humble and apologetic. It is not the message of an entitled person at all.

Yes, the post abut withdrawing was nice, however the one before that was vague and weird and entitled.


Thank you for acknowledging. Now go take a page from her, and be nice yourself.

I am nice. She should have handled it in a more mature manner. I certainly hope if she explained to organizers that she suffers from Social Anxiety they would have tried their best to accommodate her.
I recall how Mardy Fish felt he had to leave the sport when his social anxiety was out of control. Instead, her first post was like some justice crusader doing it for all the players.
I still recall how Serena bullied her and how terrible that was. Even if Serena and Osaka were faking that it was not a big deal. It was a big deal, Serena, don't bully those that beat you and then have them apologize for your bullying behavior.

Yeah, you sound nice.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m torn. Is one of the rules that athletes must do media interviews? If so and she doesn’t want to abide by the rules than I think she’s in the wrong. But if it’s just a nice to do thing then she should not have to.

Personally, I think I am like her in that I am introverted, a terrible public speaker and I would also get waves of anxiety if I had to speak in public. So I understand where she’s coming from.


She was willing to pay the fines. Then they said that no she would be expelled instead. So she quit the tournament.
I am like her, introverted and public speaking is terrifying to me. I can't imagine even having to do it on that level of scrutiny. There should be more dialogues between players and the tournament people. The French aren't known to be a flexible bunch anyway, so the French Open might not have been the right place for this. Remember when Serena wore her catsuit at the Open?


I agree and I would never be in a profession that would have me in the public eye.

But my question is if The media interviews are part of the entry rules of the tournament?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m torn. Is one of the rules that athletes must do media interviews? If so and she doesn’t want to abide by the rules than I think she’s in the wrong. But if it’s just a nice to do thing then she should not have to.

Personally, I think I am like her in that I am introverted, a terrible public speaker and I would also get waves of anxiety if I had to speak in public. So I understand where she’s coming from.


She was willing to pay the fines. Then they said that no she would be expelled instead. So she quit the tournament.
I am like her, introverted and public speaking is terrifying to me. I can't imagine even having to do it on that level of scrutiny. There should be more dialogues between players and the tournament people. The French aren't known to be a flexible bunch anyway, so the French Open might not have been the right place for this. Remember when Serena wore her catsuit at the Open?


I agree and I would never be in a profession that would have me in the public eye.

But my question is if The media interviews are part of the entry rules of the tournament?

It appears that they are.
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