Tipping for expensive salon visits

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If you can't afford an $80 tip, you can't afford a $400 haircut. This is all cringe.

YES! [phone]

No, it has nothing to do with affording. Salons love this train of thought though and want you to feel “cheap” for not freely dispensing out cash.

"Salons love this train of thought" --- like salons are these huge money generators with insane profits. Most are small businesses run by regular hard working people. Give it a rest.

Regular, hard working people who want your cash. I’m old enough to remember when a cut included a blow dry. Now it’s four different charges and 2-3 tips.

Wow! And did you walk to the salon up hill in the snow, both ways too?

Your mom is calling. Dinner is ready.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm curious what you tip for expensive color, cuts or keratin. I just went in for a $425 hair appointment that lasted two hours - am I supposed to tip 15% on that??

Anywhere between $75-90 would be appropriate for that service. Though I’d go higher if you are the only customer in salon.

[Anonymous]

I am a personal trainer and most of my clients try(ied) to tip me. I tell them: when I come to your home/whatever location there is no tip. My fee is my fee. No extra. It is all built in to the agreed-upon fee. It includes my travel time, my education, my many years of experience and trainings, my certifications, and my expertise. It includes my notes that i email you after our session, and accompanying photos of the work we did and my recommendations for practice.

Currently I charge 150 per 75 minute session. Most of my clients have been with me 15+ years; several are 20 years+ with me. I suspect it is the same with stylists who are so good they keep their clients for decades.

I frequently turn down prospective clients as I am usually booked. When I started out 30 years ago my clientele was 100% women. It is now 40% men. I did not lose a single client during the pandemic. A good stylist will have his/her clients standing in line to see them again after this strange year.

A client should know ahead of time exactly what they will pay; no tips or surprises. If you cannot afford me there are plenty of other stylists/trainers/ etc.

[Anonymous]

The owner is not tipped.

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The only people I have ever *personally* known who are grumpy about tipping are Europeans. I wonder if that is the case on this thread.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am a personal trainer and most of my clients try(ied) to tip me. I tell them: when I come to your home/whatever location there is no tip. My fee is my fee. No extra. It is all built in to the agreed-upon fee. It includes my travel time, my education, my many years of experience and trainings, my certifications, and my expertise. It includes my notes that i email you after our session, and accompanying photos of the work we did and my recommendations for practice.

Currently I charge 150 per 75 minute session. Most of my clients have been with me 15+ years; several are 20 years+ with me. I suspect it is the same with stylists who are so good they keep their clients for decades.

I frequently turn down prospective clients as I am usually booked. When I started out 30 years ago my clientele was 100% women. It is now 40% men. I did not lose a single client during the pandemic. A good stylist will have his/her clients standing in line to see them again after this strange year.

A client should know ahead of time exactly what they will pay; no tips or surprises. If you cannot afford me there are plenty of other stylists/trainers/ etc.

Absolutely. Except unless you work in a shop. They set the prices. In order to fit your approach, most stylists would need to find a new location, or travel - which is not realistic. Your service approach is more in line with solo stylists, or any service provider that does outcalls.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The only people I have ever *personally* known who are grumpy about tipping are Europeans. I wonder if that is the case on this thread.

I am American, in my 50s, and paid my way through college and law school summers with the 15% tips I made waiting tables. I am "grumpy" about the apparently infinite group of service providers who get (or expect) me to tip them.


a) I'm now expected to give tips to all-new categories of people so their employers get away with refusing to pay these people a living wage. Examples include retail workers, camp counselors, maintenance workers, lawn care staff, house cleaning staff, dog walker staff, movers, package delivery drivers (Amazon, UPS), gym staff, and every. manner. of. food/drink. employee. Appliance delivery guys, everyone who ever says a word to you at a hotel, the Music & Me teacher, the pool staff, aftercare employees, and on and on and on.

b) people who expect tips who don't do sht. ie, the woman who hands me a pre-packaged block of cheese from the case at Eastern Market — should she get a 18%, 20% or 25% gratuity for silently handing me the cheese? iPad wants to know.

c) the percentage of "customary" tip continues to increase, from 15% standard in the 80s to 20% minimum now — for the same meal. Why?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The only people I have ever *personally* known who are grumpy about tipping are Europeans. I wonder if that is the case on this thread.

I am American, in my 50s, and paid my way through college and law school summers with the 15% tips I made waiting tables. I am "grumpy" about the apparently infinite group of service providers who get (or expect) me to tip them.


a) I'm now expected to give tips to all-new categories of people so their employers get away with refusing to pay these people a living wage. Examples include retail workers, camp counselors, maintenance workers, lawn care staff, house cleaning staff, dog walker staff, movers, package delivery drivers (Amazon, UPS), gym staff, and every. manner. of. food/drink. employee. Appliance delivery guys, everyone who ever says a word to you at a hotel, the Music & Me teacher, the pool staff, aftercare employees, and on and on and on.

b) people who expect tips who don't do sht. ie, the woman who hands me a pre-packaged block of cheese from the case at Eastern Market — should she get a 18%, 20% or 25% gratuity for silently handing me the cheese? iPad wants to know.

c) the percentage of "customary" tip continues to increase, from 15% standard in the 80s to 20% minimum now — for the same meal. Why?

Not a very successful law career, huh? Sorry.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The only people I have ever *personally* known who are grumpy about tipping are Europeans. I wonder if that is the case on this thread.

I am American, in my 50s, and paid my way through college and law school summers with the 15% tips I made waiting tables. I am "grumpy" about the apparently infinite group of service providers who get (or expect) me to tip them.


a) I'm now expected to give tips to all-new categories of people so their employers get away with refusing to pay these people a living wage. Examples include retail workers, camp counselors, maintenance workers, lawn care staff, house cleaning staff, dog walker staff, movers, package delivery drivers (Amazon, UPS), gym staff, and every. manner. of. food/drink. employee. Appliance delivery guys, everyone who ever says a word to you at a hotel, the Music & Me teacher, the pool staff, aftercare employees, and on and on and on.

b) people who expect tips who don't do sht. ie, the woman who hands me a pre-packaged block of cheese from the case at Eastern Market — should she get a 18%, 20% or 25% gratuity for silently handing me the cheese? iPad wants to know.

c) the percentage of "customary" tip continues to increase, from 15% standard in the 80s to 20% minimum now — for the same meal. Why?

That's a really good question.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If you don't want to pay 20% tip then don't get the high end service. And FFS please tip the shampooer, how cheap could you be?

What high end service? I pay $300 for cut, color, and walking out with a wet head. I’m in a room full of chairs and surrounded by loud hair dryers and women complaining about their in laws. I get a cup of tea. Isn’t $300 enough for the time and talent of a simple cut and color?

By high end I mean paying $300 for your hair. Sure $300 is “enough” but you’re choosing to do it, and it’s a service that is tipped for. So you should pay the 15-20% tip. And if Ron can’t swing that then you can’t afford the service.

[Anonymous]

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2019/07/17/william-barber-tipping-racist-past-227361

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:The only people I have ever *personally* known who are grumpy about tipping are Europeans. I wonder if that is the case on this thread.

I am American, in my 50s, and paid my way through college and law school summers with the 15% tips I made waiting tables. I am "grumpy" about the apparently infinite group of service providers who get (or expect) me to tip them.


a) I'm now expected to give tips to all-new categories of people so their employers get away with refusing to pay these people a living wage. Examples include retail workers, camp counselors, maintenance workers, lawn care staff, house cleaning staff, dog walker staff, movers, package delivery drivers (Amazon, UPS), gym staff, and every. manner. of. food/drink. employee. Appliance delivery guys, everyone who ever says a word to you at a hotel, the Music & Me teacher, the pool staff, aftercare employees, and on and on and on.

b) people who expect tips who don't do sht. ie, the woman who hands me a pre-packaged block of cheese from the case at Eastern Market — should she get a 18%, 20% or 25% gratuity for silently handing me the cheese? iPad wants to know.

c) the percentage of "customary" tip continues to increase, from 15% standard in the 80s to 20% minimum now — for the same meal. Why?

Not a very successful law career, huh? Sorry.

I'm mid-tier. I'm not cutting hair, though, so there's that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The only people I have ever *personally* known who are grumpy about tipping are Europeans. I wonder if that is the case on this thread.

I am American, in my 50s, and paid my way through college and law school summers with the 15% tips I made waiting tables. I am "grumpy" about the apparently infinite group of service providers who get (or expect) me to tip them.


a) I'm now expected to give tips to all-new categories of people so their employers get away with refusing to pay these people a living wage. Examples include retail workers, camp counselors, maintenance workers, lawn care staff, house cleaning staff, dog walker staff, movers, package delivery drivers (Amazon, UPS), gym staff, and every. manner. of. food/drink. employee. Appliance delivery guys, everyone who ever says a word to you at a hotel, the Music & Me teacher, the pool staff, aftercare employees, and on and on and on.

b) people who expect tips who don't do sht. ie, the woman who hands me a pre-packaged block of cheese from the case at Eastern Market — should she get a 18%, 20% or 25% gratuity for silently handing me the cheese? iPad wants to know.

c) the percentage of "customary" tip continues to increase, from 15% standard in the 80s to 20% minimum now — for the same meal. Why?

Agree. Especially love the bolded. Quit asking me to tip at self service places and for just taking my order at the counter. Enough. Panera wants me to tip the person who takes my order but I literally pick up my own food, pour my own drink, and clear my own table.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The only people I have ever *personally* known who are grumpy about tipping are Europeans. I wonder if that is the case on this thread.

Because in Europe,you don't tip, it's figured into the price. I would rather have that here as well, even though I am not European.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:If you don't want to pay 20% tip then don't get the high end service. And FFS please tip the shampooer, how cheap could you be?

What high end service? I pay $300 for cut, color, and walking out with a wet head. I’m in a room full of chairs and surrounded by loud hair dryers and women complaining about their in laws. I get a cup of tea. Isn’t $300 enough for the time and talent of a simple cut and color?

By high end I mean paying $300 for your hair. Sure $300 is “enough” but you’re choosing to do it, and it’s a service that is tipped for. So you should pay the 15-20% tip. And if Ron can’t swing that then you can’t afford the service.

Do you live in the DMV? Because this isn’t as high as you seem to think it is.