Tipping for expensive salon visits

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2019/07/17/william-barber-tipping-racist-past-227361

Yes, but until a living wage is achieved, keep tipping.

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Anonymous wrote:The only people I have ever *personally* known who are grumpy about tipping are Europeans. I wonder if that is the case on this thread.

I am American, in my 50s, and paid my way through college and law school summers with the 15% tips I made waiting tables. I am "grumpy" about the apparently infinite group of service providers who get (or expect) me to tip them.


a) I'm now expected to give tips to all-new categories of people so their employers get away with refusing to pay these people a living wage. Examples include retail workers, camp counselors, maintenance workers, lawn care staff, house cleaning staff, dog walker staff, movers, package delivery drivers (Amazon, UPS), gym staff, and every. manner. of. food/drink. employee. Appliance delivery guys, everyone who ever says a word to you at a hotel, the Music & Me teacher, the pool staff, aftercare employees, and on and on and on.

b) people who expect tips who don't do sht. ie, the woman who hands me a pre-packaged block of cheese from the case at Eastern Market — should she get a 18%, 20% or 25% gratuity for silently handing me the cheese? iPad wants to know.

c) the percentage of "customary" tip continues to increase, from 15% standard in the 80s to 20% minimum now — for the same meal. Why?

Not a very successful law career, huh? Sorry.

I'm mid-tier. I'm not cutting hair, though, so there's that.

But complaining about $100 a month (perhaps?) in tips? Sounds like you aren't all that flush.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:"Salons love this train of thought" --- like salons are these huge money generators with insane profits. Most are small businesses run by regular hard working people. Give it a rest.

If it is all so reasonable and $400 plus $80 tip is a just price for the service, then why isn't the price of the service officially $480?

Because we are living in a tipping society right now in America. That's why. When you go to a restaurant, you add a tip. Why don't they just add it automatically to the bill, you say? Why? Why? Why?

Terrible circular argument.

I don’t know what you mean by “tipping society.” Restaurant servers gets tips as they make $3/hr wage and work their wage is nearly all earned tips. There is a tip jar in every store now not because we are a tipping society but because everyone wants more money. I’ll continue to ignore. I tip my stylist as I feel appropriate for the job and time spent, not by some arbitrary must give 20% rule

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The only people I have ever *personally* known who are grumpy about tipping are Europeans. I wonder if that is the case on this thread.

I am American, in my 50s, and paid my way through college and law school summers with the 15% tips I made waiting tables. I am "grumpy" about the apparently infinite group of service providers who get (or expect) me to tip them.


a) I'm now expected to give tips to all-new categories of people so their employers get away with refusing to pay these people a living wage. Examples include retail workers, camp counselors, maintenance workers, lawn care staff, house cleaning staff, dog walker staff, movers, package delivery drivers (Amazon, UPS), gym staff, and every. manner. of. food/drink. employee. Appliance delivery guys, everyone who ever says a word to you at a hotel, the Music & Me teacher, the pool staff, aftercare employees, and on and on and on.

b) people who expect tips who don't do sht. ie, the woman who hands me a pre-packaged block of cheese from the case at Eastern Market — should she get a 18%, 20% or 25% gratuity for silently handing me the cheese? iPad wants to know.

c) the percentage of "customary" tip continues to increase, from 15% standard in the 80s to 20% minimum now — for the same meal. Why?

Not a very successful law career, huh? Sorry.

I'm mid-tier. I'm not cutting hair, though, so there's that.

But complaining about $100 a month (perhaps?) in tips? Sounds like you aren't all that flush.

Or the PP values their earned money and doesn’t throw it away

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The only people I have ever *personally* known who are grumpy about tipping are Europeans. I wonder if that is the case on this thread.

I am American, in my 50s, and paid my way through college and law school summers with the 15% tips I made waiting tables. I am "grumpy" about the apparently infinite group of service providers who get (or expect) me to tip them.


a) I'm now expected to give tips to all-new categories of people so their employers get away with refusing to pay these people a living wage. Examples include retail workers, camp counselors, maintenance workers, lawn care staff, house cleaning staff, dog walker staff, movers, package delivery drivers (Amazon, UPS), gym staff, and every. manner. of. food/drink. employee. Appliance delivery guys, everyone who ever says a word to you at a hotel, the Music & Me teacher, the pool staff, aftercare employees, and on and on and on.

b) people who expect tips who don't do sht. ie, the woman who hands me a pre-packaged block of cheese from the case at Eastern Market — should she get a 18%, 20% or 25% gratuity for silently handing me the cheese? iPad wants to know.

c) the percentage of "customary" tip continues to increase, from 15% standard in the 80s to 20% minimum now — for the same meal. Why?

Not a very successful law career, huh? Sorry.

I'm mid-tier. I'm not cutting hair, though, so there's that.

But complaining about $100 a month (perhaps?) in tips? Sounds like you aren't all that flush.

Or the PP values their earned money and doesn’t throw it away

She clearly doesn't make enough earned money as a lawyer -- the tips she brings up are really not that much annually if you make a decent lawyer's salary. I am a lawyer and tipping these people is an afterthought for me because I have enough to do it and not think twice. I'm lucky and feel being generous is the right thing to do. If I was broke, then yeah, I might complain about it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The only people I have ever *personally* known who are grumpy about tipping are Europeans. I wonder if that is the case on this thread.

I am American, in my 50s, and paid my way through college and law school summers with the 15% tips I made waiting tables. I am "grumpy" about the apparently infinite group of service providers who get (or expect) me to tip them.


a) I'm now expected to give tips to all-new categories of people so their employers get away with refusing to pay these people a living wage. Examples include retail workers, camp counselors, maintenance workers, lawn care staff, house cleaning staff, dog walker staff, movers, package delivery drivers (Amazon, UPS), gym staff, and every. manner. of. food/drink. employee. Appliance delivery guys, everyone who ever says a word to you at a hotel, the Music & Me teacher, the pool staff, aftercare employees, and on and on and on.

b) people who expect tips who don't do sht. ie, the woman who hands me a pre-packaged block of cheese from the case at Eastern Market — should she get a 18%, 20% or 25% gratuity for silently handing me the cheese? iPad wants to know.

c) the percentage of "customary" tip continues to increase, from 15% standard in the 80s to 20% minimum now — for the same meal. Why?

Not a very successful law career, huh? Sorry.

I'm mid-tier. I'm not cutting hair, though, so there's that.

But complaining about $100 a month (perhaps?) in tips? Sounds like you aren't all that flush.

Or the PP values their earned money and doesn’t throw it away

She clearly doesn't make enough earned money as a lawyer -- the tips she brings up are really not that much annually if you make a decent lawyer's salary. I am a lawyer and tipping these people is an afterthought for me because I have enough to do it and not think twice. I'm lucky and feel being generous is the right thing to do. If I was broke, then yeah, I might complain about it.

I don’t care how much you make, spending money shouldn’t be an after thought. Salons aren’t charities.

[Anonymous]

Right, they aren't charities - the people who work there should be paid and tipped, as is customary.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2019/07/17/william-barber-tipping-racist-past-227361

Yes, but until a living wage is achieved, keep tipping.

Your stylist doesn't make a living wage?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Right, they aren't charities - the people who work there should be paid and tipped, as is customary.

Tipping is customary for a job well done and the amount is at the discretion of the client. OP doesn’t owe her stylist an $80 tip for a couple hrs of service she is already paying for. She can tip whatever she wants and that is perfectly fine and acceptable.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The only people I have ever *personally* known who are grumpy about tipping are Europeans. I wonder if that is the case on this thread.

Because in Europe,you don't tip, it's figured into the price. I would rather have that here as well, even though I am not European.

+1

Employees get a regular paycheck, customers know what they're paying up front, and the government gets their cut. Everybody wins.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Right, they aren't charities - the people who work there should be paid and tipped, as is customary.

Tipping is customary for a job well done and the amount is at the discretion of the client. OP doesn’t owe her stylist an $80 tip for a couple hrs of service she is already paying for. She can tip whatever she wants and that is perfectly fine and acceptable.

Sure. But will she? It’s tacky not to.

[Anonymous]

What I find astounding is the $425 seems acceptable, but $80+/- seems extraordinary.

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Anonymous wrote:What I find astounding is the $425 seems acceptable, but $80+/- seems extraordinary.

$425 is absurd which is WHY an extra $80 is extraordinary.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Right, they aren't charities - the people who work there should be paid and tipped, as is customary.

Tipping is customary for a job well done and the amount is at the discretion of the client. OP doesn’t owe her stylist an $80 tip for a couple hrs of service she is already paying for. She can tip whatever she wants and that is perfectly fine and acceptable.

Sure. But will she? It’s tacky not to.

It is tacky to expect extra money

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What I find astounding is the $425 seems acceptable, but $80+/- seems extraordinary.

$425 is absurd which is WHY an extra $80 is extraordinary.

Agree. You are already paying a super high price for service. So why should you have to then go an give and additional $80-$100 or whatever to the stylist personally so she doesn’t think you are tacky and cheap?? Crazy. You are already being charged for her skill, time, space, product.