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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The  only people I have ever *personally* known who are grumpy about tipping are Europeans.  I wonder if that is the case on this thread. [/quote]

I am American, in my 50s, and paid my way through college and law school summers with the 15% tips I made waiting tables.   I am "grumpy" about the apparently infinite group of service providers who get (or expect) me to tip them.

a)  I'm now expected to give tips to all-new categories of people so their [u]employers[/u] get away with refusing to pay these people a living wage.  Examples include retail workers, camp counselors, maintenance workers, lawn care staff, house cleaning [u]staff[/u], dog walker [u]staff[/u], movers, package delivery drivers (Amazon, UPS), gym staff, and every. manner. of. food/drink. employee.  Appliance delivery guys, everyone who ever says a word to you at a hotel, the Music & Me teacher, the pool staff, aftercare employees, and on and on and on.

b) [b]people who expect tips who don't do sht.  ie, the woman who hands me a pre-packaged block of cheese from the case at Eastern Market — should she get a 18%, 20% or 25% gratuity for silently handing me the cheese?  iPad wants to know. [/b]

c) the percentage of "customary" tip continues to increase, from 15% standard in the 80s to 20% minimum now — for the same meal.  Why? 
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Agree. Especially love the bolded.  Quit asking me to tip at self service places and for just taking my order at the counter. Enough. Panera wants me to tip the person who takes my order but I literally pick up my own food, pour my own drink, and clear my own table. [/quote]

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