Is it really common for professors to invite students to their houses.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Bad bad bad idea to do it now!

Happens now quite frequently at privates. Schools no doubt have suggested rules. No one on one. Mix of girls and boys. Consider URM. Spouse needs to be there. No drinks unless all over 21.

Ha ha. I majored in Russian and we used to get hammered at department events, including dinners at professor's houses. And they used to come to our parties in the language dorm. One had a stocked bar in his office and seniors would do shots on Fridays. Other departments definitely had their own after-class traditions, some of which were more refined (but still included alcohol....the English and classics professors weren't going to NOT drink wine. Although, as I recall, the poli sci/econ profs were more into beer.)

Whats the point of going to a SLAC if you don't get the perks of a small school? Getting to know your professors, and interacting with them like an adult, is one of the reasons you go to a tiny school in the middle of nowhere.

And it’s shockingly inappropriate.
This entire thread is unreal to me.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Bad bad bad idea to do it now!

Happens now quite frequently at privates. Schools no doubt have suggested rules. No one on one. Mix of girls and boys. Consider URM. Spouse needs to be there. No drinks unless all over 21.

Ha ha. I majored in Russian and we used to get hammered at department events, including dinners at professor's houses. And they used to come to our parties in the language dorm. One had a stocked bar in his office and seniors would do shots on Fridays. Other departments definitely had their own after-class traditions, some of which were more refined (but still included alcohol....the English and classics professors weren't going to NOT drink wine. Although, as I recall, the poli sci/econ profs were more into beer.)

Whats the point of going to a SLAC if you don't get the perks of a small school? Getting to know your professors, and interacting with them like an adult, is one of the reasons you go to a tiny school in the middle of nowhere.

And it’s shockingly inappropriate.
This entire thread is unreal to me.

It’s unreal to you that professors sometimes socialize with students? I feel like you’re the kind of person who wants to impose rigid rules on everyone because you’re deathly scared of losing any advantage. that really says more about your anxiety to squeeze out any possible advantave than them.

Colleges and universities are places where people learn and construct knowlege. Thinking and talking about their areas of study with other is literally how you do academics at a higher level.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Bad bad bad idea to do it now!

Happens now quite frequently at privates. Schools no doubt have suggested rules. No one on one. Mix of girls and boys. Consider URM. Spouse needs to be there. No drinks unless all over 21.

Ha ha. I majored in Russian and we used to get hammered at department events, including dinners at professor's houses. And they used to come to our parties in the language dorm. One had a stocked bar in his office and seniors would do shots on Fridays. Other departments definitely had their own after-class traditions, some of which were more refined (but still included alcohol....the English and classics professors weren't going to NOT drink wine. Although, as I recall, the poli sci/econ profs were more into beer.)

Whats the point of going to a SLAC if you don't get the perks of a small school? Getting to know your professors, and interacting with them like an adult, is one of the reasons you go to a tiny school in the middle of nowhere.

And it’s shockingly inappropriate.
This entire thread is unreal to me.

It’s unreal to you that professors sometimes socialize with students? I feel like you’re the kind of person who wants to impose rigid rules on everyone because you’re deathly scared of losing any advantage. that really says more about your anxiety to squeeze out any possible advantave than them.

Colleges and universities are places where people learn and construct knowlege. Thinking and talking about their areas of study with other is literally how you do academics at a higher level.

Yes, it’s appalling inappropriate for professors to socialize with current students. Specifically when it’s exclusive - not the entire class being invited, but only the chosen few
The fact that the inappropriateness of this actually needs to be explained, and so many are defending this is bewildering.

[Anonymous]

I’m a professor at an SLAC and I’ve had students over on a handful of occasions. I’ve always invited the entire class and there have been no problems. You know, students also invite professors to events at their fraternities/sororities and theme houses. It goes both ways.

[Anonymous]

The Chua case is a bit different. Her husband is currently suspended by Yale for sexual harassment. So she’s not supposed to have students at their shared home. She was already warned by the university l.

She’s a fool.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I went to a small liberal arts school and went to professors’ houses a lot. Never alone, but in a small group. One seminar I was in met at the professor’s house once a week. We’d have wine and cheese, talk about literature, and I’d feel very grown up...it was pretty cool. Sometimes a whole class was invited to a professor’s home. Sometimes just my boyfriend and I were invited to a particular professor’s house for dinner because we really connected with him and worked with him on a study he was doing. Spending time with my teachers outside of class was one of the best parts of my college experience.

I'm sure it was, but what about your classmates who weren't so socially saavy as to get these kind of invites? I'm sure they loved hearing how you and your boyfriend were receiving preferential treatment from the professor.

I never flaunted it. And maybe they were having dinner at the home of a different professor with whom they connected or worked with. I wouldn’t have cared if they did. We were all adults.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The Chua case is a bit different. Her husband is currently suspended by Yale for sexual harassment. So she’s not supposed to have students at their shared home. She was already warned by the university l.

She’s a fool.

Ah, there we go. There is a specific reason why.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:PhD in the ivies; at first, went to a different prof's house about once a month; entire family invited with all students in class/lab and their spouses and kids.

By the final years - there was a second type of event: smaller groups, restaurants, and more booze (the more senior, the drunker - most grad students just nursed a drink or two). Often with visiting faculty. Academics love drinking (especially on Ivy endowment money). But also, this is how most of us got our first tenure track jobs.

These events are also when your female grad student/post-doc colleagues were first sexually harassed. I mean, I went to these events as well (Ivy STEM PhD). Most everyone was totally fine. But there were enough "bad apples" and, worse, departments willing to look the other way...that those events always carried some very real risk.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Bad bad bad idea to do it now!

Happens now quite frequently at privates. Schools no doubt have suggested rules. No one on one. Mix of girls and boys. Consider URM. Spouse needs to be there. No drinks unless all over 21.

Ha ha. I majored in Russian and we used to get hammered at department events, including dinners at professor's houses. And they used to come to our parties in the language dorm. One had a stocked bar in his office and seniors would do shots on Fridays. Other departments definitely had their own after-class traditions, some of which were more refined (but still included alcohol....the English and classics professors weren't going to NOT drink wine. Although, as I recall, the poli sci/econ profs were more into beer.)

Whats the point of going to a SLAC if you don't get the perks of a small school? Getting to know your professors, and interacting with them like an adult, is one of the reasons you go to a tiny school in the middle of nowhere.

And it’s shockingly inappropriate.
This entire thread is unreal to me.

It’s unreal to you that professors sometimes socialize with students? I feel like you’re the kind of person who wants to impose rigid rules on everyone because you’re deathly scared of losing any advantage. that really says more about your anxiety to squeeze out any possible advantave than them.

Colleges and universities are places where people learn and construct knowlege. Thinking and talking about their areas of study with other is literally how you do academics at a higher level.

Yes, it’s appalling inappropriate for professors to socialize with current students. Specifically when it’s exclusive - not the entire class being invited, but only the chosen few
The fact that the inappropriateness of this actually needs to be explained, and so many are defending this is bewildering.

You have a view I think that the purpose of college is to take classes and get grades so you want this wall --- like you would not want the judge who was best friends with opposing counsel. I get it. But college isn't that. It is growing and learning and these relationships are key to that process. It never has been this Civil Service Exam type system that you think it is. Can you go to college and never do this. Of course. I think your fairness point is overblown though. My room mate was a Russian major and sometimes people would come in from say Russia, Poland, or the Ukraine. I am pretty sure everyone who spoke Russian, Polish, Ukrainian, or even French was invited because that is what was spoken. I was never invited. It is often the top students. If you can be a top student you would get invited too. I was invited to things where I had a connection with the professor and my interest in what that professor did was well know. I actually can't see how that would help me. Indeed many of the times I was invited I had already finished my courses with that professor. Professors are not giving out As to people who come to dinner.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Oh dear, please don’t ask what happens during fieldwork trips (archaeology, geography, biology, etc ...)

Yes. I spent a summer on a archaeology dig run by school. We were not in the US. Lots of fun.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m a professor at an SLAC and I’ve had students over on a handful of occasions. I’ve always invited the entire class and there have been no problems. You know, students also invite professors to events at their fraternities/sororities and theme houses. It goes both ways.

The scenarios you are describing are very different from a professor showing favoritism to a few of their current students by inviting them to their house.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Bad bad bad idea to do it now!

Happens now quite frequently at privates. Schools no doubt have suggested rules. No one on one. Mix of girls and boys. Consider URM. Spouse needs to be there. No drinks unless all over 21.

Ha ha. I majored in Russian and we used to get hammered at department events, including dinners at professor's houses. And they used to come to our parties in the language dorm. One had a stocked bar in his office and seniors would do shots on Fridays. Other departments definitely had their own after-class traditions, some of which were more refined (but still included alcohol....the English and classics professors weren't going to NOT drink wine. Although, as I recall, the poli sci/econ profs were more into beer.)

Whats the point of going to a SLAC if you don't get the perks of a small school? Getting to know your professors, and interacting with them like an adult, is one of the reasons you go to a tiny school in the middle of nowhere.

And it’s shockingly inappropriate.
This entire thread is unreal to me.

It’s unreal to you that professors sometimes socialize with students? I feel like you’re the kind of person who wants to impose rigid rules on everyone because you’re deathly scared of losing any advantage. that really says more about your anxiety to squeeze out any possible advantave than them.

Colleges and universities are places where people learn and construct knowlege. Thinking and talking about their areas of study with other is literally how you do academics at a higher level.

Yes, it’s appalling inappropriate for professors to socialize with current students. Specifically when it’s exclusive - not the entire class being invited, but only the chosen few
The fact that the inappropriateness of this actually needs to be explained, and so many are defending this is bewildering.

You have a view I think that the purpose of college is to take classes and get grades so you want this wall --- like you would not want the judge who was best friends with opposing counsel. I get it. But college isn't that. It is growing and learning and these relationships are key to that process. It never has been this Civil Service Exam type system that you think it is. Can you go to college and never do this. Of course. I think your fairness point is overblown though. My room mate was a Russian major and sometimes people would come in from say Russia, Poland, or the Ukraine. I am pretty sure everyone who spoke Russian, Polish, Ukrainian, or even French was invited because that is what was spoken. I was never invited. It is often the top students. If you can be a top student you would get invited too. I was invited to things where I had a connection with the professor and my interest in what that professor did was well know. I actually can't see how that would help me. Indeed many of the times I was invited I had already finished my courses with that professor. Professors are not giving out As to people who come to dinner.

Guys we are talking about professors, employees of the school, showing favoritism to a few of their pets, while others are excluded. It’s just not professionally ethical. Who cares if it was common in the past? In case you haven’t noticed, views about what constitutes fair and appropriate behavior has been drastically changing. It seems to me that those who were lucky enough to to become the teacher’s pet can’t clearly view how inappropriate this is.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I went to a small liberal arts school and went to professors’ houses a lot. Never alone, but in a small group. One seminar I was in met at the professor’s house once a week. We’d have wine and cheese, talk about literature, and I’d feel very grown up...it was pretty cool. Sometimes a whole class was invited to a professor’s home. Sometimes just my boyfriend and I were invited to a particular professor’s house for dinner because we really connected with him and worked with him on a study he was doing. Spending time with my teachers outside of class was one of the best parts of my college experience.

I'm sure it was, but what about your classmates who weren't so socially saavy as to get these kind of invites? I'm sure they loved hearing how you and your boyfriend were receiving preferential treatment from the professor.

I never flaunted it. And maybe they were having dinner at the home of a different professor with whom they connected or worked with. I wouldn’t have cared if they did. We were all adults.

Oh, in that case it makes it totally cool

[Anonymous]

All the time!!! Princeton and NU alumni

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Bad bad bad idea to do it now!

Happens now quite frequently at privates. Schools no doubt have suggested rules. No one on one. Mix of girls and boys. Consider URM. Spouse needs to be there. No drinks unless all over 21.

Ha ha. I majored in Russian and we used to get hammered at department events, including dinners at professor's houses. And they used to come to our parties in the language dorm. One had a stocked bar in his office and seniors would do shots on Fridays. Other departments definitely had their own after-class traditions, some of which were more refined (but still included alcohol....the English and classics professors weren't going to NOT drink wine. Although, as I recall, the poli sci/econ profs were more into beer.)

Whats the point of going to a SLAC if you don't get the perks of a small school? Getting to know your professors, and interacting with them like an adult, is one of the reasons you go to a tiny school in the middle of nowhere.

And it’s shockingly inappropriate.
This entire thread is unreal to me.

It’s unreal to you that professors sometimes socialize with students? I feel like you’re the kind of person who wants to impose rigid rules on everyone because you’re deathly scared of losing any advantage. that really says more about your anxiety to squeeze out any possible advantave than them.

Colleges and universities are places where people learn and construct knowlege. Thinking and talking about their areas of study with other is literally how you do academics at a higher level.

Yes, it’s appalling inappropriate for professors to socialize with current students. Specifically when it’s exclusive - not the entire class being invited, but only the chosen few
The fact that the inappropriateness of this actually needs to be explained, and so many are defending this is bewildering.

maybe you should interpret your bewilderment to your own misunderstanding.