The Ivy League is a sports league

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What are the "lesser" Ivies? I didn't know that was a term.

It isn't, unless you are an imbecile. Your ignorance of the term is proof you are not one.

HYP are in a league of their own. The others are very top schools too but not quite HYP

-Cornell Alum

There's a reason why PP went to Cornell, an adopted child of Ivies no one wants to be.

I went to Cornell because it was the perfect choice for me. It was the only Ivy I applied to and that status had nothing to do with my choice. It has an excellent comp sci department and I loved Ithaca. Go Big Red.

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What are the "lesser" Ivies? I didn't know that was a term.

It isn't, unless you are an imbecile. Your ignorance of the term is proof you are not one.

The lesser Ivies are Brown and Dartmouth, both schools that are more similar to LACs than research universities.

Interesting that you do know of the term; that makes you an imbecile.

Penn, Columbia, Cornell are not "lesser" Ivies, they are middle tier Ivies.

PP here, and I stand by my original statement, with the introduction of additional confirming evidence from you.

Brown and Dartmouth are not "similar to LACs" in any regard. Dartmouth's nomenclature as "Dartmouth College" is based on history and marketing. They are both among the only 131 universities qualified by the Carnegie Classification of Institutions of Higher Education as R1 research universities.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_research_universities_in_the_United_StatesR1

I partly agree with your original statement, since it clearly applies to you.

Dartmouth was not even in the AAU until a few years back, the research university lobbying group, as the AAU has stringent research qualifications required for membership.

And for the vast majority of its history until very recently, it was an R2 university.
Since the past 15 years when it first broke into R1, it has dropped back into R2 multiple times including in 2016: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/grade-point/wp/2016/02/04/in-new-sorting-of-colleges-dartmouth-falls-out-of-an-exclusive-group/

A school that has less research activity than West Virginia University is more similar to LACs than Harvard or Penn. And they should embrace that, as their strength is in undergraduate studies (and somewhat business school), not research.


So yes they are very similar to LACs, and it has nothing to do with their name (only an imbecile like you would judge a school based on whether its called "College" or "University".
If you disagree with that then you are a moron.

No they are not "very similar to LACs", and all your typing and copypasting above supports that they aren't. They both have thousands of graduate students also. Your strongest point is that until 15 years ago Dartmouth was R2 and not R1? Have you ever even been to an LAC? You could not be more wrong if you said they were like frozen yogurt shops.

Also, I did not "judge a school based on whether its called "College" or "University". I did the opposite and said that didn't matter to pre-empt that canard.

You funny.

Do you not know hw to read? It was dropped back down to R2 in 2016. It constantly shuffles between R2 and R1.

Yeah between the second level of RESEARCH UNIVERSITY and the top level of RESEARCH UNIVERSITY, meaning it has always been a RESEARCH UNIVERSITY. It has a liberal arts college as a subset of its undergrad colleges, as most Universities do. It has 27 graduate programs and 2,100+ grad students, making it exactly unlike an LAC.

Let me politely suggest you stop f-ing this chicken and drop your incorrect point and leave it alone. It's ok.

R1 universities: Harvard, MIT, Stanford, Princeton, Yale, Columbia, Cornell, Univ. Penn, Berkeley, Johns Hopkins, CalTech, etc. etc.

R2 universities: Brigham Young, Baylor, Arkansas State University, Boise State, Central Michigan University, etc.

Dartmouth should stick to just considering itself a LAC.

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Anonymous wrote:There is no such thing as a "Public Ivy." It's like calling Brown a "Private ACC."

Stop it.

Yes, I get you OP. I had to listen to a crazy parent Saturday prattling on about how her kid will apply to the "Public Ivies" next year. Most people have no clue what you are talking about when you say this and DGAF anyway. It is not a real thing. Let's go ahead and add the "The Colleges that Change Lives" marketing nonsense while we're at it.

U Mich Ann Arbor, people referred to Duke, Johns Hopkins, Georgetown this way when I was applying in the late 80s...though, of course, the last 3 are private.

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Let me politely suggest you stop f-ing this chicken and drop your incorrect point and leave it alone. It's ok.

R1 universities: Harvard, MIT, Stanford, Princeton, Yale, Columbia, Cornell, Univ. Penn, Berkeley, Johns Hopkins, CalTech, etc. etc.

R2 universities: Brigham Young, Baylor, Arkansas State University, Boise State, Central Michigan University, etc.

Dartmouth should stick to just considering itself a LAC.

Lol, ok genius, you decided to keep f-ing that chicken after all. Enjoy!

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What are the "lesser" Ivies? I didn't know that was a term.

It isn't, unless you are an imbecile. Your ignorance of the term is proof you are not one.

HYP are in a league of their own. The others are very top schools too but not quite HYP

-Cornell Alum

There's a reason why PP went to Cornell, an adopted child of Ivies no one wants to be.

I went to Cornell because it was the perfect choice for me. It was the only Ivy I applied to and that status had nothing to do with my choice. It has an excellent comp sci department and I loved Ithaca. Go Big Red.

+1

I have degrees from Princeton and Cornell. Took my kids -- who had the stats to be competitive applying to any school -- to visit both. Both decided not to apply to Princeton and are loving Cornell. Go Big Red!!

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Anonymous wrote:

What are the "lesser" Ivies? I didn't know that was a term.

It isn't, unless you are an imbecile. Your ignorance of the term is proof you are not one.

HYP are in a league of their own. The others are very top schools too but not quite HYP

-Cornell Alum

There's a reason why PP went to Cornell, an adopted child of Ivies no one wants to be.

"Cornell is the community college of the Ivy League." https://theblacksheeponline.com/cornell/7-hilarious-times-moviestv-shows-made-fun-cornell