DC now in CDC moderate range for schools - what will this mean for reopening?

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Anonymous wrote:All this talk of moving is very remincent of a temper tantrum.

Yes you don't like the current system in a pandemic. Are you anticipating another pandemic in 3-4 years and if so do you think DCPS will have the same behavior.

Cut off your nose to spite your face. Please stop with the threats and just go.

interesting framing, calling it a tantrum when people are discussing an actual problem, what they are doing to solve it, and the potential downsides of these solutions. i hope you don't say something similar to your children when they're problem solving.

+1. The "temper tantrum" talk is WTU rhetoric. We've heard it with regard to discussions of the school closure problem all year long.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Yeah, people calmly discussing what to do, presenting hypotheticals about what this means for the DC tax base and DC schools is not a "tantrum." It is people with the means to do so making choices that are better for them. I don't see a lot of people moving out of spite, but out of a sincere need to solve their problems.

+1. Calling it a tantrum is a huge stretch. People want their kids in schools and schools around the courtly have shown it can be done in a safe way. DC is barely scratching the surface with getting kids back. I am from DC and my whole family is here but if I was from somewhere else I would consider moving and do not think people that do are throwing a tantrum.

+2. I also wouldn't discount the possibility that this will indeed happen again while my kids are still in school, as pandemics are said to become more frequent. Should that be the case, I wouldn't be surprised if DCPS goes into a long shutdown again, maybe for an even less deadly virus, since they have now established the option of DL.

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But also, yes, people's emotions are running high, because people aren't feeling heard. Parents feel voiceless and have little control, except for those with the means to leave or go private. Add to that people sneering at parents left and right, belittling them, telling them they shouldn't have had children, telling them they hate their children.....it's going to lead to people being mad.

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There is a population of folks who are looking forward to declining/depressed home prices so that the city can become more diverse,

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Anonymous wrote:DC is much less appealing now with remote work, no IPL, and far away from childcare help from family. So many who could leave already have, and many more will over the summer. Of course, no one really cares about the rich white people leaving again, except all the developers who will be stuck with empty expensive real estate.

DC’s government is going to have to start caring, if enough higher income people leave. That’s the tax base that pays for all of the services for lower income people.

Bowser doesn’t care about public school education very much, but she does care about tax revenue.

Please show me the abundance of real estate in upper NW as evidence that people are moving out and not right back in.

Also, DC would rather have childless rich people that pay taxes and don’t use schools.

And, we all know the super rich don’t pay that much in taxes anyway.

Anecdotal bit I know people selling homes to get out of here.

People won't necessarily sell their homes, even if they permanently move away. Why sell if you don't have to? The value is only going to go up.

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Anonymous wrote:The people who cleared out of DC were almost entirely 1) internationals and dual passport holders At our upper NW school I can think of about a dozen of them. They were not home owners. Anyone who had a passport
for another country left in August prior to this school year and a few over winter break. 2) Those with second/vacation homes who elected to attend school at the second home location 3)Those who moved in with relatives in other cities. These second two categories did not sell their DC homes when they left DC for this year.

The movement this coming summer will involved people selling their homes. This really hasn't happened yet. Most people have assumed that school would return here as it has in the rest of the country.
If school is not projected to be in-person this fall, you will see a wave a people actually selling and permanently relocating. We'll be in this bunch.

Agree. About half of the people I know who did 'temporary' relocations for school are considering leaving for good now. When I talk to anyone who isn't in Washington, they are just appalled by what's happening here. Its a crime.

This. It's appalling to *still* not have reopened, and there's no trust in teachers or DCPS.

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I don’t get why you all feel the need to voice over and over you’re leaving. When school is back to normal you’ll be replaced by new rich white people.
You’re not important or special.

There’s plenty of rich people with no kids who pay taxes here, or rich people whose kids go to private schools.

You can leave, the only reason people would care is so schools have time to prepare.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t get why you all feel the need to voice over and over you’re leaving. When school is back to normal you’ll be replaced by new rich white people.
You’re not important or special.

There’s plenty of rich people with no kids who pay taxes here, or rich people whose kids go to private schools.

You can leave, the only reason people would care is so schools have time to prepare.

Maybe you can like....not care, then? Like just let people talk about their frustrations? Let people voice what their plans are, that really aren’t harming anyone, as you’ve already noted? You don’t have to read DCUM.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t get why you all feel the need to voice over and over you’re leaving. When school is back to normal you’ll be replaced by new rich white people.
You’re not important or special.

There’s plenty of rich people with no kids who pay taxes here, or rich people whose kids go to private schools.

You can leave, the only reason people would care is so schools have time to prepare.

Maybe you can like....not care, then? Like just let people talk about their frustrations? Let people voice what their plans are, that really aren’t harming anyone, as you’ve already noted? You don’t have to read DCUM.

It's some weird attempt at shaming us into not talking. We SHOULD talk about the impacts of white flight. They are enormous. Anyone who understands the history of white flight and its effects on racial achievement gaps has reason to be concerned.

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Anonymous wrote:All this talk of moving is very remincent of a temper tantrum.

Yes you don't like the current system in a pandemic. Are you anticipating another pandemic in 3-4 years and if so do you think DCPS will have the same behavior.

Cut off your nose to spite your face. Please stop with the threats and just go.

+1, and you don’t have to announce that you’re leaving either! We don’t care.

I agree that we're unlikely to see a big change in the population, but I do think we're already seeing and will continue to see a net exodus from schools with wealthy students. If it really matters to the city-well, that's another discussion.

Keeping schools closed so long will accelerate the long-term trend of DC becoming a childless city, i.e. the overall population grows but the share under the age of 18 shrinks.

It was already happening here before the pandemic. If parents can't count on the school system being open, even as schools are open almost everywhere else in the rest of the country, then they will take their kids elsewhere and the share of the population under the age of 18 in DC will fall even faster.

I wouldn't want to be a teacher in a city where the number of students is perpetually declining because it means the city will need a lot fewer teachers.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/07/where-have-all-the-children-gone/594133/

+1

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t get why you all feel the need to voice over and over you’re leaving. When school is back to normal you’ll be replaced by new rich white people.
You’re not important or special.

There’s plenty of rich people with no kids who pay taxes here, or rich people whose kids go to private schools.

You can leave, the only reason people would care is so schools have time to prepare.

Maybe you can like....not care, then? Like just let people talk about their frustrations? Let people voice what their plans are, that really aren’t harming anyone, as you’ve already noted? You don’t have to read DCUM.

It's some weird attempt at shaming us into not talking. We SHOULD talk about the impacts of white flight. They are enormous. Anyone who understands the history of white flight and its effects on racial achievement gaps has reason to be concerned.

This. WTU members come on this board to try to shame parents into silence. Don't let it work. Keep emailing your principal, chancellor, mayor, and council members.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All this talk of moving is very remincent of a temper tantrum.

Yes you don't like the current system in a pandemic. Are you anticipating another pandemic in 3-4 years and if so do you think DCPS will have the same behavior.

Cut off your nose to spite your face. Please stop with the threats and just go.

interesting framing, calling it a tantrum when people are discussing an actual problem, what they are doing to solve it, and the potential downsides of these solutions. i hope you don't say something similar to your children when they're problem solving.

+1. The "temper tantrum" talk is WTU rhetoric. We've heard it with regard to discussions of the school closure problem all year long.

This. It's just more WTU trolling to try to shame parents who want schools to reopen.

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How long are you gonna blame the WTU for DCPS decisions? Two years...five years? OSSE sets the class limits how is this the WTU’s fault? I understand I’m going to be called a troll, but I’m just wondering.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All this talk of moving is very remincent of a temper tantrum.

Yes you don't like the current system in a pandemic. Are you anticipating another pandemic in 3-4 years and if so do you think DCPS will have the same behavior.

Cut off your nose to spite your face. Please stop with the threats and just go.

interesting framing, calling it a tantrum when people are discussing an actual problem, what they are doing to solve it, and the potential downsides of these solutions. i hope you don't say something similar to your children when they're problem solving.

+1. The "temper tantrum" talk is WTU rhetoric. We've heard it with regard to discussions of the school closure problem all year long.

This. It's just more WTU trolling to try to shame parents who want schools to reopen.

everyone wants schools to reopen people just have different standards and methods

keep emailing whoever who won't believe you are leaving until they see your bill of sale. stop talking and start walking.

[Anonymous]

I don’t know it’s WTU or what. I think the best option is to ignore people who try to derail convos or add nothing.