4th grade dropouts

[Anonymous]

My kids have not had novels, reading groups or any projects. Just google slides. Endless slides.

[Anonymous]

You think parents are at fault for not complaining to their child’s principal that the teaching and curriculum are subpar? Without this board I would have no idea that kids are reading novels, having small group meetings, being assigned work on Mondays, doing projects, or having specials teachers who aren’t phoning it in via YouTube videos.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:When they were in school face to face, they came home excited to tell me about their day and show me what they were working on. Now they log off and cry for hours.

Well, that's the point. How excited were you after a day of calculus in person?

DP. I enjoyed my calculus class. Now my poor kids are stuck yelling at a penguin.

They do not have to do ST Math. My fifth grader has not since the second week of school, however, all actual assignments by her teacher are completed and she is learning new material.

My kids don’t do ST math. I think it is an option for asynchronous Mondays. We don’t do it. My kids do Mathnasium 3x per week. I consider that their math for the week, not what they are doing online.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Is it always the same poster who complains about regression? Because that's not normal, and shouldn't happen if your child attends their virtual learning and you do your parenting job.

Do you check the homework? You must, every day.
Also check for organization, and that your child knows what to hand in when.
Multiplication is supposed to be practiced regularly at home until it's solid. Ask for one table a day.

I think your mistake is thinking that you can be totally hands-off as your child grows older. This isn't preschool. Even if your child were in the building, you'd need to help your child memorize their multiplication tables. I don't know one parent who hasn't helped their child to practice this!

Essentially, this is a failure of understanding your changing role as a parent of a grade-school child.

You think there is just one child in northern va public school who has experienced a year of summer slide? And that parent posts on here repeatedly? Any kid whose parents are not regularly supplementing with a different curriculum or paying for tutors has regressed this year.

Not my kids.

But I think kids of educated UMC parents dropping out in elementary for the rest of the year is absolutely fine. It’s not like the kid won’t make it up next year.

If you aren't supplementing, your kids have regressed.

No. They have learned a lot this year. I should know, I hear what they are doing every day.

Everybody is having a different experience with DL.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is it always the same poster who complains about regression? Because that's not normal, and shouldn't happen if your child attends their virtual learning and you do your parenting job.

Do you check the homework? You must, every day.
Also check for organization, and that your child knows what to hand in when.
Multiplication is supposed to be practiced regularly at home until it's solid. Ask for one table a day.

I think your mistake is thinking that you can be totally hands-off as your child grows older. This isn't preschool. Even if your child were in the building, you'd need to help your child memorize their multiplication tables. I don't know one parent who hasn't helped their child to practice this!

Essentially, this is a failure of understanding your changing role as a parent of a grade-school child.

You think there is just one child in northern va public school who has experienced a year of summer slide? And that parent posts on here repeatedly? Any kid whose parents are not regularly supplementing with a different curriculum or paying for tutors has regressed this year.

Not my kids.

But I think kids of educated UMC parents dropping out in elementary for the rest of the year is absolutely fine. It’s not like the kid won’t make it up next year.

If you aren't supplementing, your kids have regressed.

100% agree. Those kids that are relying on DL are upwards of a year behind grade level now. Perhaps more for those that have truly checked out. The damage is catastrophic.

[Anonymous]

This week in her DL math class my second grader learned to identify squares, triangles, rectangles and circles. You know, exactly the same material she learned in 2 year old preschool. Her homework was to color the squares red, the triangles green, the rectangles yellow, and the circles blue. No joke.

She is doing all of the assigned work and still regressing in her skills. We try to supplement, but she needs physical activity after sitting all day, so she has a limited attention span. We really should just pull her. DL is a joke and her teachers are phoning it in. APS should be embarrassed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is it always the same poster who complains about regression? Because that's not normal, and shouldn't happen if your child attends their virtual learning and you do your parenting job.

Do you check the homework? You must, every day.
Also check for organization, and that your child knows what to hand in when.
Multiplication is supposed to be practiced regularly at home until it's solid. Ask for one table a day.

I think your mistake is thinking that you can be totally hands-off as your child grows older. This isn't preschool. Even if your child were in the building, you'd need to help your child memorize their multiplication tables. I don't know one parent who hasn't helped their child to practice this!

Essentially, this is a failure of understanding your changing role as a parent of a grade-school child.

You think there is just one child in northern va public school who has experienced a year of summer slide? And that parent posts on here repeatedly? Any kid whose parents are not regularly supplementing with a different curriculum or paying for tutors has regressed this year.

Not my kids.

But I think kids of educated UMC parents dropping out in elementary for the rest of the year is absolutely fine. It’s not like the kid won’t make it up next year.

If you aren't supplementing, your kids have regressed.

100% agree. Those kids that are relying on DL are upwards of a year behind grade level now. Perhaps more for those that have truly checked out. The damage is catastrophic.

Agreed. We’ve had weekly math tutoring for kids. Without it, they’d have learned nothing

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You think parents are at fault for not complaining to their child’s principal that the teaching and curriculum are subpar? Without this board I would have no idea that kids are reading novels, having small group meetings, being assigned work on Mondays, doing projects, or having specials teachers who aren’t phoning it in via YouTube videos.

I don’t think you are at fault but I do think you will get much further speaking to the principal than complaining on DCUM.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is it always the same poster who complains about regression? Because that's not normal, and shouldn't happen if your child attends their virtual learning and you do your parenting job.

Do you check the homework? You must, every day.
Also check for organization, and that your child knows what to hand in when.
Multiplication is supposed to be practiced regularly at home until it's solid. Ask for one table a day.

I think your mistake is thinking that you can be totally hands-off as your child grows older. This isn't preschool. Even if your child were in the building, you'd need to help your child memorize their multiplication tables. I don't know one parent who hasn't helped their child to practice this!

Essentially, this is a failure of understanding your changing role as a parent of a grade-school child.

You think there is just one child in northern va public school who has experienced a year of summer slide? And that parent posts on here repeatedly? Any kid whose parents are not regularly supplementing with a different curriculum or paying for tutors has regressed this year.

Not my kids.

But I think kids of educated UMC parents dropping out in elementary for the rest of the year is absolutely fine. It’s not like the kid won’t make it up next year.

If you aren't supplementing, your kids have regressed.

100% agree. Those kids that are relying on DL are upwards of a year behind grade level now. Perhaps more for those that have truly checked out. The damage is catastrophic.

NP here. We have supplemented. Sadly my kids may now be ahead since so many of their classmates have regressed. My kids took some online writing courses in the summer and then we got a tutor for writing and math.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You think parents are at fault for not complaining to their child’s principal that the teaching and curriculum are subpar? Without this board I would have no idea that kids are reading novels, having small group meetings, being assigned work on Mondays, doing projects, or having specials teachers who aren’t phoning it in via YouTube videos.

I don’t think you are at fault but I do think you will get much further speaking to the principal than complaining on DCUM.

How exactly do you complain to a principal of the entire curriculum and teaching is lacking?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:You think parents are at fault for not complaining to their child’s principal that the teaching and curriculum are subpar? Without this board I would have no idea that kids are reading novels, having small group meetings, being assigned work on Mondays, doing projects, or having specials teachers who aren’t phoning it in via YouTube videos.

I don’t think you are at fault but I do think you will get much further speaking to the principal than complaining on DCUM.

How exactly do you complain to a principal of the entire curriculum and teaching is lacking?

You start with that and very specific observations of your child’s experience. The same way you would go to the principal before covid.

[Anonymous]

NP, newly homeschooling mom here. I have a child in 5th and a child in 3rd. DL was a disaster for both, so we unenrolled from public school.

OP, don’t stress. I think taking your child out of public school can be a great choice. Not only are my children learning more than when they were in virtual public school, they are doing better than they were when school was in person!

Yes, public school children are in school for 6-7 hours per day. This does NOT mean that they spend 6-7 hours learning. Even in classrooms with the best teachers, so much time is wasted. Think back on your time in school. A good portion of the day is spent on greetings, separating into groups, standing in lines for whatever reason, allowing the teacher to get problem children back on task, etc. It’s actually a mess.

When you first start homeschooling, don’t try to do everything at once. Start with math, reading, and basic writing. These can be completed in 2-3 hours, depending on the child. Once you have a good routine there, you can introduce history (although this may be part of your reading already), science, foreign language, art, and music.

Let’s be real. If you only do math, reading, and writing, you’re probably still doing more in 2-3 hours what most public schools accomplish in a 6-7 hour day (even in person!).

If you need some suggestions for curricula, I’m happy to help.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Well appreciate the teachers more. See, you cant do it.

Ummm clearly the teachers can't teach either. I'm not sure what you are trying to prove here, but you've gone sideways.

[Anonymous]

I posted previously about homeschooling my 3rd grader this year after dropping out of 2nd grade like OP did. So many posters ask if you can homeschool and work FT and yes you can. Spouse and I both work FT jobs but do shift work. I work 12 hour days so have more days off. Spouse works 4-12 5 days a week. I get that not everyone can do shift work. But with elem age kids you can do a lot of planning when you have the time do the kids know what they need to do on what day during the week. I found 3rd grade spelling words on Pinterest. There are 10 a week. She practices them every day then does a test on Fridays. Reads 30 mins a day then does a book report about every two weeks. Math out big focus is the multiplication tables because I know that’s what they would do in 3rd at school. We also do word problems workbooks. Science and Social studies are based on her interests. We have been learning about the school day in different countries, finding it on a map, learning about its government, then trying food from that country. It turns out my 8yo loves Ethiopian food.... never would have guessed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is it always the same poster who complains about regression? Because that's not normal, and shouldn't happen if your child attends their virtual learning and you do your parenting job.

Do you check the homework? You must, every day.
Also check for organization, and that your child knows what to hand in when.
Multiplication is supposed to be practiced regularly at home until it's solid. Ask for one table a day.

I think your mistake is thinking that you can be totally hands-off as your child grows older. This isn't preschool. Even if your child were in the building, you'd need to help your child memorize their multiplication tables. I don't know one parent who hasn't helped their child to practice this!

Essentially, this is a failure of understanding your changing role as a parent of a grade-school child.

Go back to sleep, granny. We'll wake you when your life experience is relevant.

I have a 5th grader and a 10th grader and I'm 40. I know what I'm talking about. Stop dodging.

My kids have no interest in anything educational after all day online learning. They have headaches and hate school. Should I just beat them until they do their extra multiplication tables?

Yes. You need to develop their resilience. Don't let them whine their way out of it. Also review their virtual learning set-up - over-the-ear headphones, not earbuds. The latter are painful and could very well lead to headaches.Perhaps they're too close to their screen. Encourage them to move about during each break, look out of the window every now and then, drink water...

No headphones! It leads to hearing loss!