Why are parents so fixated on reopening schools in-person?

[Anonymous]

So why do you keep repeating the comment? You're as bad as the initial poster when you do that!!! (DP)

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Not everyone is miserable. I actually enjoy this and so does my DS. He talks to his friends online at night playing games. He likes school online because all of the kids with bad behavior who ruin school do not show up online. The teachers are helping him one-on-one because they have office hours each day. The lessons are less fluff and to the point and aren't interrupted by the behavior issues. He sleeps in later each day. I prefer working at home. No wasted time commuting and I save money on gas. The parents I know that really want schools to open have never spent more than a week straight with their kids. They don't want to either. I'm a single parent so it's all me 24/7 but I cannot complain. My kid says he hopes they don't go back to school this year.

My children say the same.

+1 My kids say that it makes a HUGE difference that all the "bad" kids aren't in class.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not everyone is miserable. I actually enjoy this and so does my DS. He talks to his friends online at night playing games. He likes school online because all of the kids with bad behavior who ruin school do not show up online. The teachers are helping him one-on-one because they have office hours each day. The lessons are less fluff and to the point and aren't interrupted by the behavior issues. He sleeps in later each day. I prefer working at home. No wasted time commuting and I save money on gas. The parents I know that really want schools to open have never spent more than a week straight with their kids. They don't want to either. I'm a single parent so it's all me 24/7 but I cannot complain. My kid says he hopes they don't go back to school this year.

My children say the same.

+1 My kids say that it makes a HUGE difference that all the "bad" kids aren't in class.

Rather shocking the DCUM police hasn’t come out in full force to accuse you of trolling. Bizarre times.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not everyone is miserable. I actually enjoy this and so does my DS. He talks to his friends online at night playing games. He likes school online because all of the kids with bad behavior who ruin school do not show up online. The teachers are helping him one-on-one because they have office hours each day. The lessons are less fluff and to the point and aren't interrupted by the behavior issues. He sleeps in later each day. I prefer working at home. No wasted time commuting and I save money on gas. The parents I know that really want schools to open have never spent more than a week straight with their kids. They don't want to either. I'm a single parent so it's all me 24/7 but I cannot complain. My kid says he hopes they don't go back to school this year.

My children say the same.

+1 My kids say that it makes a HUGE difference that all the "bad" kids aren't in class.

I totally agree. Two "bullies" in my child's class have magically disappeared. lol is all I have to say. There was a boy in one of my kid's first grade class whose sole existence was to run around hitting other kids, disobeying the teacher, and not participating in anything. I volunteered for a half-day class project and this kid spent the entire three hours running around the back of the classroom by himself throwing paper airplanes. He also weirdly had a hole in the middle of his forehead that nobody seemed to care about. WTF??? Schools can't control kids' behavior these days anyway so perhaps we should just remain permanent distance learning to avoid class disruptions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not everyone is miserable. I actually enjoy this and so does my DS. He talks to his friends online at night playing games. He likes school online because all of the kids with bad behavior who ruin school do not show up online. The teachers are helping him one-on-one because they have office hours each day. The lessons are less fluff and to the point and aren't interrupted by the behavior issues. He sleeps in later each day. I prefer working at home. No wasted time commuting and I save money on gas. The parents I know that really want schools to open have never spent more than a week straight with their kids. They don't want to either. I'm a single parent so it's all me 24/7 but I cannot complain. My kid says he hopes they don't go back to school this year.

My children say the same.

+1 My kids say that it makes a HUGE difference that all the "bad" kids aren't in class.

I totally agree. Two "bullies" in my child's class have magically disappeared. lol is all I have to say. There was a boy in one of my kid's first grade class whose sole existence was to run around hitting other kids, disobeying the teacher, and not participating in anything. I volunteered for a half-day class project and this kid spent the entire three hours running around the back of the classroom by himself throwing paper airplanes. He also weirdly had a hole in the middle of his forehead that nobody seemed to care about. WTF??? Schools can't control kids' behavior these days anyway so perhaps we should just remain permanent distance learning to avoid class disruptions.

now imagine what that poor kid is going through now with no supports.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think we have dumped so many social responsibilities on the school system—childcare, food, social skills, counseling, etc.—that we are just in a state of shock when they assert that their main job is education.

And they haven't been doing their main job--education--since March.

Wrong.

They've been working. Just not effectively.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not everyone is miserable. I actually enjoy this and so does my DS. He talks to his friends online at night playing games. He likes school online because all of the kids with bad behavior who ruin school do not show up online. The teachers are helping him one-on-one because they have office hours each day. The lessons are less fluff and to the point and aren't interrupted by the behavior issues. He sleeps in later each day. I prefer working at home. No wasted time commuting and I save money on gas. The parents I know that really want schools to open have never spent more than a week straight with their kids. They don't want to either. I'm a single parent so it's all me 24/7 but I cannot complain. My kid says he hopes they don't go back to school this year.

My children say the same.

+1 My kids say that it makes a HUGE difference that all the "bad" kids aren't in class.

I totally agree. Two "bullies" in my child's class have magically disappeared. lol is all I have to say. There was a boy in one of my kid's first grade class whose sole existence was to run around hitting other kids, disobeying the teacher, and not participating in anything. I volunteered for a half-day class project and this kid spent the entire three hours running around the back of the classroom by himself throwing paper airplanes. He also weirdly had a hole in the middle of his forehead that nobody seemed to care about. WTF??? Schools can't control kids' behavior these days anyway so perhaps we should just remain permanent distance learning to avoid class disruptions.

really, my kids 3rd grade class in FCPS had a kid like that who managed to progress to constant suspensions. My kid was a target and I know the vice principal was trying to get enough justification to just expel the kid

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not everyone is miserable. I actually enjoy this and so does my DS. He talks to his friends online at night playing games. He likes school online because all of the kids with bad behavior who ruin school do not show up online. The teachers are helping him one-on-one because they have office hours each day. The lessons are less fluff and to the point and aren't interrupted by the behavior issues. He sleeps in later each day. I prefer working at home. No wasted time commuting and I save money on gas. The parents I know that really want schools to open have never spent more than a week straight with their kids. They don't want to either. I'm a single parent so it's all me 24/7 but I cannot complain. My kid says he hopes they don't go back to school this year.

My children say the same.

+1 My kids say that it makes a HUGE difference that all the "bad" kids aren't in class.

I totally agree. Two "bullies" in my child's class have magically disappeared. lol is all I have to say. There was a boy in one of my kid's first grade class whose sole existence was to run around hitting other kids, disobeying the teacher, and not participating in anything. I volunteered for a half-day class project and this kid spent the entire three hours running around the back of the classroom by himself throwing paper airplanes. He also weirdly had a hole in the middle of his forehead that nobody seemed to care about. WTF??? Schools can't control kids' behavior these days anyway so perhaps we should just remain permanent distance learning to avoid class disruptions.

really, my kids 3rd grade class in FCPS had a kid like that who managed to progress to constant suspensions. My kid was a target and I know the vice principal was trying to get enough justification to just expel the kid

That's a sad state of affairs, just like school shootings, bullying is gone because schools are gone. I hope well for all the kids in this thread and really wish they are able to be in schools that allow them to enjoy social interactions rather than be afraid of their own peers.

[Anonymous]

How is this even a question? Of course parents want schools open in person.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not everyone is miserable. I actually enjoy this and so does my DS. He talks to his friends online at night playing games. He likes school online because all of the kids with bad behavior who ruin school do not show up online. The teachers are helping him one-on-one because they have office hours each day. The lessons are less fluff and to the point and aren't interrupted by the behavior issues. He sleeps in later each day. I prefer working at home. No wasted time commuting and I save money on gas. The parents I know that really want schools to open have never spent more than a week straight with their kids. They don't want to either. I'm a single parent so it's all me 24/7 but I cannot complain. My kid says he hopes they don't go back to school this year.

My children say the same.

+1 My kids say that it makes a HUGE difference that all the "bad" kids aren't in class.

I totally agree. Two "bullies" in my child's class have magically disappeared. lol is all I have to say. There was a boy in one of my kid's first grade class whose sole existence was to run around hitting other kids, disobeying the teacher, and not participating in anything. I volunteered for a half-day class project and this kid spent the entire three hours running around the back of the classroom by himself throwing paper airplanes. He also weirdly had a hole in the middle of his forehead that nobody seemed to care about. WTF??? Schools can't control kids' behavior these days anyway so perhaps we should just remain permanent distance learning to avoid class disruptions.

really, my kids 3rd grade class in FCPS had a kid like that who managed to progress to constant suspensions. My kid was a target and I know the vice principal was trying to get enough justification to just expel the kid

You don't know that. They aren't trying to expel the child. That's not what happens.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Parents need to learn how to parent. Maybe start living in joint families.

How dare you? I know how to parent. And if someone would pay me $100,000 a year to teach my child that would be one thing, but I am being expected to do that for free. I have a job. I cannot do it and also a second, unpaid job that I am not being paid for and that forces me to work an additional 8 hours for free. FIX DISTANCE LEARNING and take responsibility for your students.

So, I can come through zoom and wake your child up? I can give your child breakfast so that they can focus? I can take the legos, stuffed animals, and video games away from him so he can actually focus on learning? I can give him a quiet background so that he can learn? I can sit with him for 4 hours to review all that he/she refused to get during instructional time? I can do his assignments for him? I can prep him for tests since he missed a lot of assignments? I cannot do ANY of these things. I can provide instruction, encourage, mentor, and have additional zoom time within reason to help him/her but I cannot do all of the above. That is the parent's job.

No, I do all of those things (the ones that need to be done: most of them, apart from breakfast and quiet, he doesn’t need). What YOU can do is understand that I am now working two jobs, my own and yours, and that the latter I am not paid for. You spend one hour a day with my child and four other kids onscreen. Yet you assign 4 hours a day of work that my child cannot access on his own, so I have to access it for him. You provide a jumble of assignments so disorganized that it is impossible for me, let alone my child, to keep track of what has and hasn’t been completed. You make no attempt to check that my child understands what he is being taught, and leave it up to me to teach it when it becomes clear that he doesn’t. You place the entire responsibility for learning on me and my child, and take no responsibility or interest in your own part of the equation. If he’s not learning, that’s our problem. You can understand that we are in the middle of a lethal pandemic and at the very least acknowledge that, and accept that if work is not turned in on time that may have something to do with it. Your school could provide supervised online time for students to join and do their independent work with an adult present who can answer their questions, technological and educational, and make sure they complete their assignments to the best of their abilities. Instead of taking it for granted that “the parents will do it.”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think we have dumped so many social responsibilities on the school system—childcare, food, social skills, counseling, etc.—that we are just in a state of shock when they assert that their main job is education.

And they haven't been doing their main job--education--since March.

Where do your kids go to school? What are you talking about? My kid's teachers are online live nearly all day except for lunch and their special area class. Do you have any idea how long it takes to prepare for a daily 5+ hour live session? I have two meetings a week that I lead for an hour and it takes a loooooong time to prepare for them (and they are for adults).

I do not care at all about how hard teachers are working. The kids are not learning. These two are completely separate things. Public education is results-focused not input-focused. School is not designed as a vehicle for teachers to teach, but as a place for students to learn. If students are not learning, then education is not happening, and it doesn't matter at all that teachers think they're working harder.

This is why we are saying that teachers have not been doing their job.

NO. YOUR child(ren) are not learning. My children and all other children that I know (neighbors and friends) are learning just fine. Maybe you need to help your kids and trash teachers less. Try working with them and figure out a plan for your child(ren).

The data and expert opinion say otherwise! A general statement doesn't preclude the existence of outliers! But you probably knew that.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Parents need to learn how to parent. Maybe start living in joint families.

How dare you? I know how to parent. And if someone would pay me $100,000 a year to teach my child that would be one thing, but I am being expected to do that for free. I have a job. I cannot do it and also a second, unpaid job that I am not being paid for and that forces me to work an additional 8 hours for free. FIX DISTANCE LEARNING and take responsibility for your students.

So, I can come through zoom and wake your child up? I can give your child breakfast so that they can focus? I can take the legos, stuffed animals, and video games away from him so he can actually focus on learning? I can give him a quiet background so that he can learn? I can sit with him for 4 hours to review all that he/she refused to get during instructional time? I can do his assignments for him? I can prep him for tests since he missed a lot of assignments? I cannot do ANY of these things. I can provide instruction, encourage, mentor, and have additional zoom time within reason to help him/her but I cannot do all of the above. That is the parent's job.

It's funny, because you actually can do most of these things, in a building called a school. You just refuse to.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not everyone is miserable. I actually enjoy this and so does my DS. He talks to his friends online at night playing games. He likes school online because all of the kids with bad behavior who ruin school do not show up online. The teachers are helping him one-on-one because they have office hours each day. The lessons are less fluff and to the point and aren't interrupted by the behavior issues. He sleeps in later each day. I prefer working at home. No wasted time commuting and I save money on gas. The parents I know that really want schools to open have never spent more than a week straight with their kids. They don't want to either. I'm a single parent so it's all me 24/7 but I cannot complain. My kid says he hopes they don't go back to school this year.

My children say the same.

+1 My kids say that it makes a HUGE difference that all the "bad" kids aren't in class.

I totally agree. Two "bullies" in my child's class have magically disappeared. lol is all I have to say. There was a boy in one of my kid's first grade class whose sole existence was to run around hitting other kids, disobeying the teacher, and not participating in anything. I volunteered for a half-day class project and this kid spent the entire three hours running around the back of the classroom by himself throwing paper airplanes. He also weirdly had a hole in the middle of his forehead that nobody seemed to care about. WTF??? Schools can't control kids' behavior these days anyway so perhaps we should just remain permanent distance learning to avoid class disruptions.

really, my kids 3rd grade class in FCPS had a kid like that who managed to progress to constant suspensions. My kid was a target and I know the vice principal was trying to get enough justification to just expel the kid

You are a bad person if you think the right thing to do to a troubled 8 year old is deprive them of a stable environment.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Parents need to learn how to parent. Maybe start living in joint families.

How dare you? I know how to parent. And if someone would pay me $100,000 a year to teach my child that would be one thing, but I am being expected to do that for free. I have a job. I cannot do it and also a second, unpaid job that I am not being paid for and that forces me to work an additional 8 hours for free. FIX DISTANCE LEARNING and take responsibility for your students.

So, I can come through zoom and wake your child up? I can give your child breakfast so that they can focus? I can take the legos, stuffed animals, and video games away from him so he can actually focus on learning? I can give him a quiet background so that he can learn? I can sit with him for 4 hours to review all that he/she refused to get during instructional time? I can do his assignments for him? I can prep him for tests since he missed a lot of assignments? I cannot do ANY of these things. I can provide instruction, encourage, mentor, and have additional zoom time within reason to help him/her but I cannot do all of the above. That is the parent's job.

No, I do all of those things (the ones that need to be done: most of them, apart from breakfast and quiet, he doesn’t need). What YOU can do is understand that I am now working two jobs, my own and yours, and that the latter I am not paid for. You spend one hour a day with my child and four other kids onscreen. Yet you assign 4 hours a day of work that my child cannot access on his own, so I have to access it for him. You provide a jumble of assignments so disorganized that it is impossible for me, let alone my child, to keep track of what has and hasn’t been completed. You make no attempt to check that my child understands what he is being taught, and leave it up to me to teach it when it becomes clear that he doesn’t. You place the entire responsibility for learning on me and my child, and take no responsibility or interest in your own part of the equation. If he’s not learning, that’s our problem. You can understand that we are in the middle of a lethal pandemic and at the very least acknowledge that, and accept that if work is not turned in on time that may have something to do with it. Your school could provide supervised online time for students to join and do their independent work with an adult present who can answer their questions, technological and educational, and make sure they complete their assignments to the best of their abilities. Instead of taking it for granted that “the parents will do it.”

I'm just waiting for that person to come back and scream "nOt AlL tEaChErS!!"