"I support the teachers" people

[Anonymous]

I haven't met a teacher that didn't want to be back in person. But not with a half-assed plan that is going to result in bouncing us back to DL when cases start popping up in classrooms.

So I stand with our kids teachers and the union. I trust them more than I trust Bowser or the Republicans (but I repeat myself).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I haven't met a teacher that didn't want to be back in person. But not with a half-assed plan that is going to result in bouncing us back to DL when cases start popping up in classrooms.

So I stand with our kids teachers and the union. I trust them more than I trust Bowser or the Republicans (but I repeat myself).

This.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I support the teachers AND I want in-person school. I don't think they are mutually exclusive. I think if DCPS actually worked with the teachers (and parents) to develop a plan with actual buy-in, instead of hatching these plans at Central and then announcing them on the news and expecting everyone to hop on board without asking any questions, we could already be back in-person with some form of hybrid.

There are teachers who want to come back. There are also teachers who don't. There are logistical problems around staffing and how to create a concurrent model. The only way to solve those problems (and they are solvable) is to be working together with teachers to figure it out.

Exactly. I just practice simple empathy. If I wouldn't want to go back under the conditions, then I don't expect other people to. DCPS is doing a horrible job. I think a lot of the vitriol toward teachers should be going to the president and mayor. Stop bungling everything and give us some confidence that you aren't as dim witted as you seem and you actually thought even the simplest things through. If we are still in this position next August, I'll use my privilege and try to move out of the country. Then there would be a huge signal that there is something wrong with America (I mean, stating the obvious, but still...) that they aren't prioritizing putting kids in school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I support the teachers AND I want in-person school. I don't think they are mutually exclusive. I think if DCPS actually worked with the teachers (and parents) to develop a plan with actual buy-in, instead of hatching these plans at Central and then announcing them on the news and expecting everyone to hop on board without asking any questions, we could already be back in-person with some form of hybrid.

There are teachers who want to come back. There are also teachers who don't. There are logistical problems around staffing and how to create a concurrent model. The only way to solve those problems (and they are solvable) is to be working together with teachers to figure it out.

Exactly. I just practice simple empathy. If I wouldn't want to go back under the conditions, then I don't expect other people to. DCPS is doing a horrible job. I think a lot of the vitriol toward teachers should be going to the president and mayor. Stop bungling everything and give us some confidence that you aren't as dim witted as you seem and you actually thought even the simplest things through. If we are still in this position next August, I'll use my privilege and try to move out of the country. Then there would be a huge signal that there is something wrong with America (I mean, stating the obvious, but still...) that they aren't prioritizing putting kids in school.

If you do that (as I have already, for the year at least), you may find that the demands of the WTU and American ideas about what is "safe" go way beyond what other countries have done to successfully open schools. In Germany, all they are doing is wear masks at school but NOT while sitting in the classroom, keep kids in cohorts, wash hands frequently, not share supplies, and open the windows on a regular basis. Quarantine the kid's or teacher's closest contacts when someone tests positive. And despite rising community spread (likely due to travel and adults letting their guard down in general and congregating in various places), they have few cases in schools and no outbreaks. It's not as hard as Americans make it out to be.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I support the teachers AND I want in-person school. I don't think they are mutually exclusive. I think if DCPS actually worked with the teachers (and parents) to develop a plan with actual buy-in, instead of hatching these plans at Central and then announcing them on the news and expecting everyone to hop on board without asking any questions, we could already be back in-person with some form of hybrid.

There are teachers who want to come back. There are also teachers who don't. There are logistical problems around staffing and how to create a concurrent model. The only way to solve those problems (and they are solvable) is to be working together with teachers to figure it out.

Exactly. I just practice simple empathy. If I wouldn't want to go back under the conditions, then I don't expect other people to. DCPS is doing a horrible job. I think a lot of the vitriol toward teachers should be going to the president and mayor. Stop bungling everything and give us some confidence that you aren't as dim witted as you seem and you actually thought even the simplest things through. If we are still in this position next August, I'll use my privilege and try to move out of the country. Then there would be a huge signal that there is something wrong with America (I mean, stating the obvious, but still...) that they aren't prioritizing putting kids in school.

If you do that (as I have already, for the year at least), you may find that the demands of the WTU and American ideas about what is "safe" go way beyond what other countries have done to successfully open schools. In Germany, all they are doing is wear masks at school but NOT while sitting in the classroom, keep kids in cohorts, wash hands frequently, not share supplies, and open the windows on a regular basis. Quarantine the kid's or teacher's closest contacts when someone tests positive. And despite rising community spread (likely due to travel and adults letting their guard down in general and congregating in various places), they have few cases in schools and no outbreaks. It's not as hard as Americans make it out to be.

Every thread. You tell the exact same story about Germany. Could you at least change it up? Give some new info, new anecdote about your travels, talk about the people who may riot because of new mask rules? ANYTHING that could be some new info

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I haven't met a teacher that didn't want to be back in person. But not with a half-assed plan that is going to result in bouncing us back to DL when cases start popping up in classrooms.

So I stand with our kids teachers and the union. I trust them more than I trust Bowser or the Republicans (but I repeat myself).

I think you need to do more research about how this works. Individual classes might be quarantined; the whole school wouldn’t be unless there was significant spread, which appears to be rare.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I support the teachers AND I want in-person school. I don't think they are mutually exclusive. I think if DCPS actually worked with the teachers (and parents) to develop a plan with actual buy-in, instead of hatching these plans at Central and then announcing them on the news and expecting everyone to hop on board without asking any questions, we could already be back in-person with some form of hybrid.

There are teachers who want to come back. There are also teachers who don't. There are logistical problems around staffing and how to create a concurrent model. The only way to solve those problems (and they are solvable) is to be working together with teachers to figure it out.

Exactly. I just practice simple empathy. If I wouldn't want to go back under the conditions, then I don't expect other people to. DCPS is doing a horrible job. I think a lot of the vitriol toward teachers should be going to the president and mayor. Stop bungling everything and give us some confidence that you aren't as dim witted as you seem and you actually thought even the simplest things through. If we are still in this position next August, I'll use my privilege and try to move out of the country. Then there would be a huge signal that there is something wrong with America (I mean, stating the obvious, but still...) that they aren't prioritizing putting kids in school.

If you do that (as I have already, for the year at least), you may find that the demands of the WTU and American ideas about what is "safe" go way beyond what other countries have done to successfully open schools. In Germany, all they are doing is wear masks at school but NOT while sitting in the classroom, keep kids in cohorts, wash hands frequently, not share supplies, and open the windows on a regular basis. Quarantine the kid's or teacher's closest contacts when someone tests positive. And despite rising community spread (likely due to travel and adults letting their guard down in general and congregating in various places), they have few cases in schools and no outbreaks. It's not as hard as Americans make it out to be.

Every thread. You tell the exact same story about Germany. Could you at least change it up? Give some new info, new anecdote about your travels, talk about the people who may riot because of new mask rules? ANYTHING that could be some new info

DP. Why are you so triggered by the fact that other countries — heck other US cities and schools — can manage to keep schools open? Causes a little cognitive dissonance I guess.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I support the teachers AND I want in-person school. I don't think they are mutually exclusive. I think if DCPS actually worked with the teachers (and parents) to develop a plan with actual buy-in, instead of hatching these plans at Central and then announcing them on the news and expecting everyone to hop on board without asking any questions, we could already be back in-person with some form of hybrid.

There are teachers who want to come back. There are also teachers who don't. There are logistical problems around staffing and how to create a concurrent model. The only way to solve those problems (and they are solvable) is to be working together with teachers to figure it out.

Exactly. I just practice simple empathy. If I wouldn't want to go back under the conditions, then I don't expect other people to. DCPS is doing a horrible job. I think a lot of the vitriol toward teachers should be going to the president and mayor. Stop bungling everything and give us some confidence that you aren't as dim witted as you seem and you actually thought even the simplest things through. If we are still in this position next August, I'll use my privilege and try to move out of the country. Then there would be a huge signal that there is something wrong with America (I mean, stating the obvious, but still...) that they aren't prioritizing putting kids in school.

I have zero empathy for teachers, parents, the WTU, and their crony elected officials, who all ganged up on the most vulnerable kids to keep them out of school. Zero.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I support the teachers AND I want in-person school. I don't think they are mutually exclusive. I think if DCPS actually worked with the teachers (and parents) to develop a plan with actual buy-in, instead of hatching these plans at Central and then announcing them on the news and expecting everyone to hop on board without asking any questions, we could already be back in-person with some form of hybrid.

There are teachers who want to come back. There are also teachers who don't. There are logistical problems around staffing and how to create a concurrent model. The only way to solve those problems (and they are solvable) is to be working together with teachers to figure it out.

Exactly. I just practice simple empathy. If I wouldn't want to go back under the conditions, then I don't expect other people to. DCPS is doing a horrible job. I think a lot of the vitriol toward teachers should be going to the president and mayor. Stop bungling everything and give us some confidence that you aren't as dim witted as you seem and you actually thought even the simplest things through. If we are still in this position next August, I'll use my privilege and try to move out of the country. Then there would be a huge signal that there is something wrong with America (I mean, stating the obvious, but still...) that they aren't prioritizing putting kids in school.

I have zero empathy for teachers, parents, the WTU, and their crony elected officials, who all ganged up on the most vulnerable kids to keep them out of school. Zero.

Thanks, PP, but I think we can see that already. Curious as to why you keep bombing this thread that's addressed to the parents who're supporting teachers instead of sticking to the dozen or so I-hate-teachers threads that already exist. Do you think you have some new information for us?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I support the teachers AND I want in-person school. I don't think they are mutually exclusive. I think if DCPS actually worked with the teachers (and parents) to develop a plan with actual buy-in, instead of hatching these plans at Central and then announcing them on the news and expecting everyone to hop on board without asking any questions, we could already be back in-person with some form of hybrid.

There are teachers who want to come back. There are also teachers who don't. There are logistical problems around staffing and how to create a concurrent model. The only way to solve those problems (and they are solvable) is to be working together with teachers to figure it out.

Exactly. I just practice simple empathy. If I wouldn't want to go back under the conditions, then I don't expect other people to. DCPS is doing a horrible job. I think a lot of the vitriol toward teachers should be going to the president and mayor. Stop bungling everything and give us some confidence that you aren't as dim witted as you seem and you actually thought even the simplest things through. If we are still in this position next August, I'll use my privilege and try to move out of the country. Then there would be a huge signal that there is something wrong with America (I mean, stating the obvious, but still...) that they aren't prioritizing putting kids in school.

I have zero empathy for teachers, parents, the WTU, and their crony elected officials, who all ganged up on the most vulnerable kids to keep them out of school. Zero.

Thanks, PP, but I think we can see that already. Curious as to why you keep bombing this thread that's addressed to the parents who're supporting teachers instead of sticking to the dozen or so I-hate-teachers threads that already exist. Do you think you have some new information for us?

I actually started this thread. I’m still here to see if any of you supposedly empathetic teacher supporters actually has any limits to how long you will support the closure. So far we seem to have two groups: one group that vageuly and naively believes we will return in term 3, and another group that wants to stay home indefinitely.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ladies, why are you being like this. Obviously no parent wants to spend the next 5-10 years cooped up with their kids away from school. No one is advocating for it for the sake of it. But then none of us wanted to change diapers, nor cleanup someone else’s vomit, nor explain to someone why they can’t put their penis on everything (and then reexplain it to his son). I’d much rather be drinking a cocktail on the beach with my 25 year old body, but that ship sailed.

But as parents we often must find ways to endure and survive and if the pandemic doesn’t go away I’m willing to keep doing dl until my kids graduate for the sake of their health.

For the sake of THEIR health? You really need to learn to evaluate risk.

For all the parents who are evaluating risk as being too high, please tell your school that you commit to staying home for the next year or two. Same taxes being paid, less stress on the system, less kids to accommodate in person, easier to staff and the rest of us can get back to school.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I support the teachers AND I want in-person school. I don't think they are mutually exclusive. I think if DCPS actually worked with the teachers (and parents) to develop a plan with actual buy-in, instead of hatching these plans at Central and then announcing them on the news and expecting everyone to hop on board without asking any questions, we could already be back in-person with some form of hybrid.

There are teachers who want to come back. There are also teachers who don't. There are logistical problems around staffing and how to create a concurrent model. The only way to solve those problems (and they are solvable) is to be working together with teachers to figure it out.

Exactly. I just practice simple empathy. If I wouldn't want to go back under the conditions, then I don't expect other people to. DCPS is doing a horrible job. I think a lot of the vitriol toward teachers should be going to the president and mayor. Stop bungling everything and give us some confidence that you aren't as dim witted as you seem and you actually thought even the simplest things through. If we are still in this position next August, I'll use my privilege and try to move out of the country. Then there would be a huge signal that there is something wrong with America (I mean, stating the obvious, but still...) that they aren't prioritizing putting kids in school.

I have zero empathy for teachers, parents, the WTU, and their crony elected officials, who all ganged up on the most vulnerable kids to keep them out of school. Zero.

Thanks, PP, but I think we can see that already. Curious as to why you keep bombing this thread that's addressed to the parents who're supporting teachers instead of sticking to the dozen or so I-hate-teachers threads that already exist. Do you think you have some new information for us?

I actually started this thread. I’m still here to see if any of you supposedly empathetic teacher supporters actually has any limits to how long you will support the closure. So far we seem to have two groups: one group that vageuly and naively believes we will return in term 3, and another group that wants to stay home indefinitely.

There was a least one who said :come back to me fall 2021." So there is a third group that is OK with this whole year. The term three people are the ones that kill me. They supported stopping this plan for a DREAM.

[Anonymous]

I'm sure if I create a new thread for this it will be deleted because, gasp, it's about another state and so irrelevant here (ok Jeff...) but you all need to read this: https://www.chicagotribune.com/coronavirus/ct-covid-19-illinois-schools-opening-pressure-20201031-cwivxnk72bfr7f77jtxwop75ne-story.html?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Breaking%20News&utm_content=861604189979&fbclid=IwAR2aDhVi2SnK6LkJZiIq6ZQfZEBfNvvucOBDVeqGFeLsxbT38Nz1_MvxPzk

I'm pro-reopening, but I'm also white and middle class. This article shows why this won't happen. Once it becomes a race issue, and it's wealthier whites that want it, in DC, it's doomed.

I actually think it will push many of those families into private schools, including ours, or to the suburbs. This is the issue.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ladies, why are you being like this. Obviously no parent wants to spend the next 5-10 years cooped up with their kids away from school. No one is advocating for it for the sake of it. But then none of us wanted to change diapers, nor cleanup someone else’s vomit, nor explain to someone why they can’t put their penis on everything (and then reexplain it to his son). I’d much rather be drinking a cocktail on the beach with my 25 year old body, but that ship sailed.

But as parents we often must find ways to endure and survive and if the pandemic doesn’t go away I’m willing to keep doing dl until my kids graduate for the sake of their health.

For the sake of THEIR health? You really need to learn to evaluate risk.

For all the parents who are evaluating risk as being too high, please tell your school that you commit to staying home for the next year or two. Same taxes being paid, less stress on the system, less kids to accommodate in person, easier to staff and the rest of us can get back to school.

oh you know those parents will be the exact ones crying that they don’t get enough resources for DL when they decide to stay home. I think the district should contract with some k-12 charter school to provide DL and bring all their teachers back exclusively for in person. Teachers with a medical exemption can do small online support groups or something.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm sure if I create a new thread for this it will be deleted because, gasp, it's about another state and so irrelevant here (ok Jeff...) but you all need to read this: https://www.chicagotribune.com/coronavirus/ct-covid-19-illinois-schools-opening-pressure-20201031-cwivxnk72bfr7f77jtxwop75ne-story.html?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Breaking%20News&utm_content=861604189979&fbclid=IwAR2aDhVi2SnK6LkJZiIq6ZQfZEBfNvvucOBDVeqGFeLsxbT38Nz1_MvxPzk

I'm pro-reopening, but I'm also white and middle class. This article shows why this won't happen. Once it becomes a race issue, and it's wealthier whites that want it, in DC, it's doomed.

I actually think it will push many of those families into private schools, including ours, or to the suburbs. This is the issue.

Of course I know about the racial divide. But it’s ironic that that article claims white parents are ignoring “the science” when the current science strongly supports reopening. It’s an issue of communicating to those communities that they should not be overly fearful. That’s exactly why the WTU’s fear-based tactics are so incredibly toxic. Beyond that, nobody is going to force families into the classroom that don’t want to go.