Athleticism

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Parents of un athletic kids over weigh technical skills

They. All. Matter.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I read a study the other day that indicated higher density populations were at no more COVID risk than very rural areas. Of course, the authors were high density development policy advocates and were ignoring the quality and availability of healthcare and using death rates as success criteria.

Bottom line, a study can say anything the author wants, depending on how the author decides to control it. This was data on players playing at the highest levels, not a randomized set of players. In other words, all other things being relatively equal, skill is a differentiator. Duh.

Translation: a slow kid can pass the ball as sharply as a tack and will not make it at the highest levels. Skill and athleticism are both very important, and as has been discussed on this thread, a good portion of "skill" is also an athletic ability.

Not really. The higher level of play the more skilled everyone is. The ability play with high skill at a higher and higher pace and speed is what filters. But you just can’t be fast to play soccer. In fact having a ball at your feet certainly limits a players speed. Only skill with the ball allows a player to move at nearly top speed with the ball. You cannot be fast with the ball without high skill.

My kid actually looks faster with the ball. He explodes with it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I read a study the other day that indicated higher density populations were at no more COVID risk than very rural areas. Of course, the authors were high density development policy advocates and were ignoring the quality and availability of healthcare and using death rates as success criteria.

Bottom line, a study can say anything the author wants, depending on how the author decides to control it. This was data on players playing at the highest levels, not a randomized set of players. In other words, all other things being relatively equal, skill is a differentiator. Duh.

Translation: a slow kid can pass the ball as sharply as a tack and will not make it at the highest levels. Skill and athleticism are both very important, and as has been discussed on this thread, a good portion of "skill" is also an athletic ability.

Not really. The higher level of play the more skilled everyone is. The ability play with high skill at a higher and higher pace and speed is what filters. But you just can’t be fast to play soccer. In fact having a ball at your feet certainly limits a players speed. Only skill with the ball allows a player to move at nearly top speed with the ball. You cannot be fast with the ball without high skill.

My kid actually looks faster with the ball. He explodes with it.

Then he is likely pretty skilled with the ball. Fast and skilled aren’t mutually exclusive.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I read a study the other day that indicated higher density populations were at no more COVID risk than very rural areas. Of course, the authors were high density development policy advocates and were ignoring the quality and availability of healthcare and using death rates as success criteria.

Bottom line, a study can say anything the author wants, depending on how the author decides to control it. This was data on players playing at the highest levels, not a randomized set of players. In other words, all other things being relatively equal, skill is a differentiator. Duh.

Translation: a slow kid can pass the ball as sharply as a tack and will not make it at the highest levels. Skill and athleticism are both very important, and as has been discussed on this thread, a good portion of "skill" is also an athletic ability.

Not really. The higher level of play the more skilled everyone is. The ability play with high skill at a higher and higher pace and speed is what filters. But you just can’t be fast to play soccer. In fact having a ball at your feet certainly limits a players speed. Only skill with the ball allows a player to move at nearly top speed with the ball. You cannot be fast with the ball without high skill.

My kid actually looks faster with the ball. He explodes with it.

Then he is likely pretty skilled with the ball. Fast and skilled aren’t mutually exclusive.

Yes. I credit it to being overlooked by the purely physical kids for most of his youth career . He turns 15 this Fall and just really started hitting his growth spurt. He is a late Fall bday that had to deal with birth year change right and jump into 11v11 with kids that had already been playing it for over 1 year. The Club also tended to just put all of the kids that had to skip a year on the lower teams.

He really practiced on his own A LOT and honed those ball skills/touch. The past few years he was dwarfed by the early growers---some were fully stacked with muscles and mustaches. Now he is as tall as many and predicted to be about 6'1-6'2.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I read a study the other day that indicated higher density populations were at no more COVID risk than very rural areas. Of course, the authors were high density development policy advocates and were ignoring the quality and availability of healthcare and using death rates as success criteria.

Bottom line, a study can say anything the author wants, depending on how the author decides to control it. This was data on players playing at the highest levels, not a randomized set of players. In other words, all other things being relatively equal, skill is a differentiator. Duh.

Translation: a slow kid can pass the ball as sharply as a tack and will not make it at the highest levels. Skill and athleticism are both very important, and as has been discussed on this thread, a good portion of "skill" is also an athletic ability.

Not really. The higher level of play the more skilled everyone is. The ability play with high skill at a higher and higher pace and speed is what filters. But you just can’t be fast to play soccer. In fact having a ball at your feet certainly limits a players speed. Only skill with the ball allows a player to move at nearly top speed with the ball. You cannot be fast with the ball without high skill.

My kid actually looks faster with the ball. He explodes with it.

Then he is likely pretty skilled with the ball. Fast and skilled aren’t mutually exclusive.

Yes. I credit it to being overlooked by the purely physical kids for most of his youth career . He turns 15 this Fall and just really started hitting his growth spurt. He is a late Fall bday that had to deal with birth year change right and jump into 11v11 with kids that had already been playing it for over 1 year. The Club also tended to just put all of the kids that had to skip a year on the lower teams.

He really practiced on his own A LOT and honed those ball skills/touch. The past few years he was dwarfed by the early growers---some were fully stacked with muscles and mustaches. Now he is as tall as many and predicted to be about 6'1-6'2.

And that is a common mistake with boys being crowned at young ages by clubs based on pre-puberty size. It is those kids who grow that be lose to Basketball or Football because coaches didn't value two of the three components at 10, 11 and 12 years old that should matter the most. Size and speed will happen later if it is going to happen. But by then it is to late to build the skill and IQ.

[Anonymous]

Or, it's fluid. And the late age burst shouldn't be training on top team competitions because he can't compete, just like the early age burst shouldn't stay on top team just because they were the quickest kid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I read a study the other day that indicated higher density populations were at no more COVID risk than very rural areas. Of course, the authors were high density development policy advocates and were ignoring the quality and availability of healthcare and using death rates as success criteria.

Bottom line, a study can say anything the author wants, depending on how the author decides to control it. This was data on players playing at the highest levels, not a randomized set of players. In other words, all other things being relatively equal, skill is a differentiator. Duh.

Translation: a slow kid can pass the ball as sharply as a tack and will not make it at the highest levels. Skill and athleticism are both very important, and as has been discussed on this thread, a good portion of "skill" is also an athletic ability.

Not really. The higher level of play the more skilled everyone is. The ability play with high skill at a higher and higher pace and speed is what filters. But you just can’t be fast to play soccer. In fact having a ball at your feet certainly limits a players speed. Only skill with the ball allows a player to move at nearly top speed with the ball. You cannot be fast with the ball without high skill.

My kid actually looks faster with the ball. He explodes with it.

Then he is likely pretty skilled with the ball. Fast and skilled aren’t mutually exclusive.

Yes. I credit it to being overlooked by the purely physical kids for most of his youth career . He turns 15 this Fall and just really started hitting his growth spurt. He is a late Fall bday that had to deal with birth year change right and jump into 11v11 with kids that had already been playing it for over 1 year. The Club also tended to just put all of the kids that had to skip a year on the lower teams.

He really practiced on his own A LOT and honed those ball skills/touch. The past few years he was dwarfed by the early growers---some were fully stacked with muscles and mustaches. Now he is as tall as many and predicted to be about 6'1-6'2.

That’s so awesome to hear. He persevered through his love for the game and determination to improve. Kudos to him.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Or, it's fluid. And the late age burst shouldn't be training on top team competitions because he can't compete, just like the early age burst shouldn't stay on top team just because they were the quickest kid.

At young ages when athleticism is valued over skill or IQ it is easy to dominate while not really being challenged. It is the young athlete who should be forced a age up to be challenged technically but instead coaches want easy wins. The athletic kids often are not challenged properly and tend to drop off as other kids grow.

We simply don't know how best to properly develop everyone, including the natural athlete.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Or, it's fluid. And the late age burst shouldn't be training on top team competitions because he can't compete, just like the early age burst shouldn't stay on top team just because they were the quickest kid.

At young ages when athleticism is valued over skill or IQ it is easy to dominate while not really being challenged. It is the young athlete who should be forced a age up to be challenged technically but instead coaches want easy wins. The athletic kids often are not challenged properly and tend to drop off as other kids grow.

We simply don't know how best to properly develop everyone, including the natural athlete.

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