So is MOCO just never opening?

[Anonymous]

This is absurd. People absolutely should be calling and complaining and when the time comes voting for other candidates and putting money towards someone viable to get this fool out of office. Do we even need that level of testing? Many areas now have more testing than demand - people just aren’t asking for the tests. But yeah let’s destroy the local economy due to some nursing home deaths.

[Anonymous]

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I would hope the point is that they can fine-tune plans to have a safe opening, with more PPE for businesses and workers and more testing and contact tracing available.

That SHOULD be the point, everywhere.

PPE and test & trace readiness.

That’s great. Increasing testing is different than saying we need to be able to test 50,000/month before we can reopen. It’s absurd.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is absurd. People absolutely should be calling and complaining and when the time comes voting for other candidates and putting money towards someone viable to get this fool out of office. Do we even need that level of testing? Many areas now have more testing than demand - people just aren’t asking for the tests. But yeah let’s destroy the local economy due to some nursing home deaths.

It's kind of depressing, how fast the conversation shifted from "stay home" to "time to stop staying home" once it became apparent that most covid deaths are [those people].

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is absurd. People absolutely should be calling and complaining and when the time comes voting for other candidates and putting money towards someone viable to get this fool out of office. Do we even need that level of testing? Many areas now have more testing than demand - people just aren’t asking for the tests. But yeah let’s destroy the local economy due to some nursing home deaths.

It's kind of depressing, how fast the conversation shifted from "stay home" to "time to stop staying home" once it became apparent that most covid deaths are [those people].

Actually, the data has become clearer and clearer about who this affects (hint: not young healthy people). Meanwhile, we were supposed to shut down for a short period of time to prevent hospitals being overwhelmed. Hospitals are empty and in risk of closure because they aren’t earning money. It’s quite enough. We’ve passed by any common sense.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is absurd. People absolutely should be calling and complaining and when the time comes voting for other candidates and putting money towards someone viable to get this fool out of office. Do we even need that level of testing? Many areas now have more testing than demand - people just aren’t asking for the tests. But yeah let’s destroy the local economy due to some nursing home deaths.

It's kind of depressing, how fast the conversation shifted from "stay home" to "time to stop staying home" once it became apparent that most covid deaths are [those people].

Actually, the data has become clearer and clearer about who this affects (hint: not young healthy people). Meanwhile, we were supposed to shut down for a short period of time to prevent hospitals being overwhelmed. Hospitals are empty and in risk of closure because they aren’t earning money. It’s quite enough. We’ve passed by any common sense.

The hospitals aren't empty.

But yeah, that's the idea - why should I have to sacrifice to prevent deaths among people who are not like me?

[Anonymous]

Hospitalizations and ICU admissions continue their downward trend in MD. Hospitalizations are down 40 and ICU admissions are down 36.

MoCo added 211 cases and 15 deaths, roughly in line with what we’ve been doing. However, the 7-day rolling average for cases ticked up from 206 to 215, and for deaths from 12.7 to 14.1, so we are not in line to fulfill reopening criteria.

Still no county-level data on ICU and hospitalizations, to see if those good trends statewide extend to MoCo. We only have cases and deaths on the county level.

Two hospitals in MoCo are on red alert at the moment — Holy Cross Germantown and Holy Cross Silver Spring.

My conclusion: I’m not convinced our case and death counts are at the level where we need to be staying closed, when statewide trends are so good. Elrich and Gayles need to release the data to justify their decision.

[Anonymous]

The purpose of the stay at home order was to prevent hospitals from becoming overwhelmed. The county's hospitals are not overwhelmed and someone can set up a number (I'm making this up because I don't know the right number), let's say when ALL hospitals hit 80% capacity we lock down until it's below 50%. Other than that, allow 50% capacity in shops, stores, restaurants. People that can work at home must continue to work at home. Places that care for at risk individuals such as the elderly will be extremely restricted. All grocery delivery is reserved for at-risk individuals. The stay at home order is a treating everything like a nail because all you have is a hammer.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The purpose of the stay at home order was to prevent hospitals from becoming overwhelmed. The county's hospitals are not overwhelmed and someone can set up a number (I'm making this up because I don't know the right number), let's say when ALL hospitals hit 80% capacity we lock down until it's below 50%. Other than that, allow 50% capacity in shops, stores, restaurants. People that can work at home must continue to work at home. Places that care for at risk individuals such as the elderly will be extremely restricted. All grocery delivery is reserved for at-risk individuals. The stay at home order is a treating everything like a nail because all you have is a hammer.

Totally agree.

It’s also asinine at this point because MoCo actually *did* adopt the pre-Phase 1 permitted activities. So we have a stay at home order, except if you want to play tennis with someone or baseball or participate in an outdoor fitness class.

You can go to Lowe’s or Target and get things, but god forbid your local shop that sells the same stuff opens up!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The purpose of the stay at home order was to prevent hospitals from becoming overwhelmed. The county's hospitals are not overwhelmed and someone can set up a number (I'm making this up because I don't know the right number), let's say when ALL hospitals hit 80% capacity we lock down until it's below 50%. Other than that, allow 50% capacity in shops, stores, restaurants. People that can work at home must continue to work at home. Places that care for at risk individuals such as the elderly will be extremely restricted. All grocery delivery is reserved for at-risk individuals. The stay at home order is a treating everything like a nail because all you have is a hammer.

Totally agree.

It’s also asinine at this point because MoCo actually *did* adopt the pre-Phase 1 permitted activities. So we have a stay at home order, except if you want to play tennis with someone or baseball or participate in an outdoor fitness class.

You can go to Lowe’s or Target and get things, but god forbid your local shop that sells the same stuff opens up!

That's strange, I live in MoCo and our local hardware stores are open with low contact pick up. As well as stores that sell food plus gift items, also with low contact pick up. As well as my favorite bird / nature store, also with low contact pick up (Backyard Naturalist in Olney is awesome!)

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You idiots elected a clown show to run the county when you voted for Elrich. A clown show is what you get. It is mindnumbing how progressives vote for liberal progressive loony shows to run the government, then complian about the results later on. Reap what you sow.

This would have been avoided if we had open primaries. The primary for CoExec was a six-way race with moderate vote spread among 3-4 candidates. Elrich won the primary by 77 votes over Blair.

Whoever has a (D) next to their name for CoExec in the general election wins.

Or if the Not-Elrich faction had united around somebody who had more than zero experience in government.

It’s hard to do this at the local level. I really don’t think that many voters had any clue who was the most viable Elrich alternative.

BTW, this may actually get my DH to finally register as a Dem. he grumbled about Elrich but up till now just can’t be bothered to declare a political affiliation to vote in the primaries, even though he mainly votes for democrats anyway (except Hogan).

Do you seriously think any of the other County Executive candidates would be doing anything differently?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You idiots elected a clown show to run the county when you voted for Elrich. A clown show is what you get. It is mindnumbing how progressives vote for liberal progressive loony shows to run the government, then complian about the results later on. Reap what you sow.

This would have been avoided if we had open primaries. The primary for CoExec was a six-way race with moderate vote spread among 3-4 candidates. Elrich won the primary by 77 votes over Blair.

Whoever has a (D) next to their name for CoExec in the general election wins.

Or if the Not-Elrich faction had united around somebody who had more than zero experience in government.

It’s hard to do this at the local level. I really don’t think that many voters had any clue who was the most viable Elrich alternative.

BTW, this may actually get my DH to finally register as a Dem. he grumbled about Elrich but up till now just can’t be bothered to declare a political affiliation to vote in the primaries, even though he mainly votes for democrats anyway (except Hogan).

Do you seriously think any of the other County Executive candidates would be doing anything differently?

DP. Sure, Robin Ficker would. Let's all be grateful he didn't get the chance!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The purpose of the stay at home order was to prevent hospitals from becoming overwhelmed. The county's hospitals are not overwhelmed and someone can set up a number (I'm making this up because I don't know the right number), let's say when ALL hospitals hit 80% capacity we lock down until it's below 50%. Other than that, allow 50% capacity in shops, stores, restaurants. People that can work at home must continue to work at home. Places that care for at risk individuals such as the elderly will be extremely restricted. All grocery delivery is reserved for at-risk individuals. The stay at home order is a treating everything like a nail because all you have is a hammer.

Totally agree.

It’s also asinine at this point because MoCo actually *did* adopt the pre-Phase 1 permitted activities. So we have a stay at home order, except if you want to play tennis with someone or baseball or participate in an outdoor fitness class.

You can go to Lowe’s or Target and get things, but god forbid your local shop that sells the same stuff opens up!

That's strange, I live in MoCo and our local hardware stores are open with low contact pick up. As well as stores that sell food plus gift items, also with low contact pick up. As well as my favorite bird / nature store, also with low contact pick up (Backyard Naturalist in Olney is awesome!)

Yep. American Plant is also open for pick-up. Snider's is open. MOM is open. Strosnider's is open. Colonial Opticians is open.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You idiots elected a clown show to run the county when you voted for Elrich. A clown show is what you get. It is mindnumbing how progressives vote for liberal progressive loony shows to run the government, then complian about the results later on. Reap what you sow.

This would have been avoided if we had open primaries. The primary for CoExec was a six-way race with moderate vote spread among 3-4 candidates. Elrich won the primary by 77 votes over Blair.

Whoever has a (D) next to their name for CoExec in the general election wins.

Or if the Not-Elrich faction had united around somebody who had more than zero experience in government.

It’s hard to do this at the local level. I really don’t think that many voters had any clue who was the most viable Elrich alternative.

BTW, this may actually get my DH to finally register as a Dem. he grumbled about Elrich but up till now just can’t be bothered to declare a political affiliation to vote in the primaries, even though he mainly votes for democrats anyway (except Hogan).

Do you seriously think any of the other County Executive candidates would be doing anything differently?

Oh my god... don't even... what an embarrassment.
I am so glad I live in MoCo where we have a very functional progressive government with good people like Elrich and not embarrassing people like Ficker or Trump.
Trump didn't even break 20% of the vote here. Ficker got what, 11%?
The "reopen" CovIdiots, you're outnumbered by sane people.

DP. Sure, Robin Ficker would. Let's all be grateful he didn't get the chance!

[Anonymous]

The goal posts will move forever. Opening is never happening. It will always be THE SURGE IS COMING IN TWO WEEKS. WE ARE ALL GOING TO DIE!!!!!!!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The goal posts will move forever. Opening is never happening. It will always be THE SURGE IS COMING IN TWO WEEKS. WE ARE ALL GOING TO DIE!!!!!!!!

Nobody is saying that, PP.