I think God is teaching us a lesson

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Religion is the opiate of the masses. Even Marx was right once.

Don’t you get bored with yourself?

LOL!! + a thousand!

You two guys -- who very well could be one guy +1-ing his own blather - should try engaging and making your point like adults.

For example, I am still waiting to see if you believe in that orange bovine that controls the universe that you brought up, and if not, why not?

The toddler (besides our orange bovine president) is the guy trolling a religion site with worn-out/sophomoric tropes from a dead guy. Get more sophisticated material and you won’t be the butt of jokes.

signed, one of the two pps (but not both, your DCUM telepathy failed you)

You fail to comprehend the meaning of "very well could". That's ok. I'll explain. It means "Your posts are so similar that it might be one person". I make no claim to have telepathy or any other supernatural power, because as you know, there is no evidence those things exist.

And I find it incredibly ironic that you are criticizing "tropes from a dead guy". LOL that's RICH. I could not have made that up!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Religion is the opiate of the masses. Even Marx was right once.

Don’t you get bored with yourself?

LOL!! + a thousand!

You two guys -- who very well could be one guy +1-ing his own blather - should try engaging and making your point like adults.

For example, I am still waiting to see if you believe in that orange bovine that controls the universe that you brought up, and if not, why not?

Blather? You have it mastered. You moved from initial reasonal debate to self-righteous, all about you and your opinion, and insulting.

Yes, you are a bore and no longer worth the price of admission.

Translation: I do not wish to answer.
Reason: If I answer truthfully, I will have to say "because that is ridiculous , there is no evidence or reason to believe an orange bovine controls the universe" showing when it comes to that belief you are atheist, just like me. Which is good. And logical. And sensible.

So congrats on that!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Religion is the opiate of the masses. Even Marx was right once.

Don’t you get bored with yourself?

LOL!! + a thousand!

You two guys -- who very well could be one guy +1-ing his own blather - should try engaging and making your point like adults.

For example, I am still waiting to see if you believe in that orange bovine that controls the universe that you brought up, and if not, why not?

The toddler (besides our orange bovine president) is the guy trolling a religion site with worn-out/sophomoric tropes from a dead guy. Get more sophisticated material and you won’t be the butt of jokes.

signed, one of the two pps (but not both, your DCUM telepathy failed you)

You fail to comprehend the meaning of "very well could". That's ok. I'll explain. It means "Your posts are so similar that it might be one person". I make no claim to have telepathy or any other supernatural power, because as you know, there is no evidence those things exist.

And I find it incredibly ironic that you are criticizing "tropes from a dead guy". LOL that's RICH. I could not have made that up!

Yawn.... Booorrrring

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Religion is the opiate of the masses. Even Marx was right once.

Don’t you get bored with yourself?

LOL!! + a thousand!

You two guys -- who very well could be one guy +1-ing his own blather - should try engaging and making your point like adults.

For example, I am still waiting to see if you believe in that orange bovine that controls the universe that you brought up, and if not, why not?

The toddler (besides our orange bovine president) is the guy trolling a religion site with worn-out/sophomoric tropes from a dead guy. Get more sophisticated material and you won’t be the butt of jokes.

signed, one of the two pps (but not both, your DCUM telepathy failed you)

You fail to comprehend the meaning of "very well could". That's ok. I'll explain. It means "Your posts are so similar that it might be one person". I make no claim to have telepathy or any other supernatural power, because as you know, there is no evidence those things exist.

And I find it incredibly ironic that you are criticizing "tropes from a dead guy". LOL that's RICH. I could not have made that up!

Yawn. Could you sound any more like a pretentious (“you fail to understand...”), trying-too-hard sophomore?

Also, FYI, Jesus isn’t dead.

[Anonymous]

Ha! Again you fail to respond, and again it is because:

Translation: I do not wish to answer.
Reason: If I answer truthfully, I will have to say "because that is ridiculous , there is no evidence or reason to believe an orange bovine controls the universe" showing when it comes to that belief you are atheist, just like me. Which is good. And logical. And sensible.

As for your claim that Jesus is not dead, please provide evidence. Because if not, them I claim Marx is living in a 55-and over community in central Florida.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Ha! Again you fail to respond, and again it is because:

Translation: I do not wish to answer.
Reason: If I answer truthfully, I will have to say "because that is ridiculous , there is no evidence or reason to believe an orange bovine controls the universe" showing when it comes to that belief you are atheist, just like me. Which is good. And logical. And sensible.

As for your claim that Jesus is not dead, please provide evidence. Because if not, them I claim Marx is living in a 55-and over community in central Florida.

*wakes up after falling asleep during your post*

People aren’t responding to you because your analogy is beyond dumb. Did the orange bovine leave/inspire any scripture, promulgate any wise teachings, live an exemplary life for humans to imitate, or perform any miracles? No? Then it’s beyond dumb.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Religion is the opiate of the masses. Even Marx was right once.

Don’t you get bored with yourself?

As long as the shoe continues to fit ... wear it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ha! Again you fail to respond, and again it is because:

Translation: I do not wish to answer.
Reason: If I answer truthfully, I will have to say "because that is ridiculous , there is no evidence or reason to believe an orange bovine controls the universe" showing when it comes to that belief you are atheist, just like me. Which is good. And logical. And sensible.

As for your claim that Jesus is not dead, please provide evidence. Because if not, them I claim Marx is living in a 55-and over community in central Florida.

*wakes up after falling asleep during your post*

People aren’t responding to you because your analogy is beyond dumb. Did the orange bovine leave/inspire any scripture, promulgate any wise teachings, live an exemplary life for humans to imitate, or perform any miracles? No? Then it’s beyond dumb.

(yelling because it appears necessary) AGAIN, IT WASN'T MY ANALOGY. A BELIEVER (you?) BROUGHT IT UP.

As for your other claims, please provide evidence.

You won't, because you don't have any.

And you won't answer the same question about the orange bovine because you don't have any evidence for that either. You accept that, and that is why you don't believe in the orange bovine.

They are equal.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ha! Again you fail to respond, and again it is because:

Translation: I do not wish to answer.
Reason: If I answer truthfully, I will have to say "because that is ridiculous , there is no evidence or reason to believe an orange bovine controls the universe" showing when it comes to that belief you are atheist, just like me. Which is good. And logical. And sensible.

As for your claim that Jesus is not dead, please provide evidence. Because if not, them I claim Marx is living in a 55-and over community in central Florida.

*wakes up after falling asleep during your post*

People aren’t responding to you because your analogy is beyond dumb. Did the orange bovine leave/inspire any scripture, promulgate any wise teachings, live an exemplary life for humans to imitate, or perform any miracles? No? Then it’s beyond dumb.

(yelling because it appears necessary) AGAIN, IT WASN'T MY ANALOGY. A BELIEVER (you?) BROUGHT IT UP.

As for your other claims, please provide evidence.

You won't, because you don't have any.

And you won't answer the same question about the orange bovine because you don't have any evidence for that either. You accept that, and that is why you don't believe in the orange bovine.

They are equal.

Who the heck cares who brought the bovine up? Seriously! Why are you obsessed with that?

Anyway, you totally missed the point. Go back and re-read. Scripture and a coherent path for living are evidence to believers. Also faith, as others on this thread have explained to you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ha! Again you fail to respond, and again it is because:

Translation: I do not wish to answer.
Reason: If I answer truthfully, I will have to say "because that is ridiculous , there is no evidence or reason to believe an orange bovine controls the universe" showing when it comes to that belief you are atheist, just like me. Which is good. And logical. And sensible.

As for your claim that Jesus is not dead, please provide evidence. Because if not, them I claim Marx is living in a 55-and over community in central Florida.

*wakes up after falling asleep during your post*

People aren’t responding to you because your analogy is beyond dumb. Did the orange bovine leave/inspire any scripture, promulgate any wise teachings, live an exemplary life for humans to imitate, or perform any miracles? No? Then it’s beyond dumb.

(yelling because it appears necessary) AGAIN, IT WASN'T MY ANALOGY. A BELIEVER (you?) BROUGHT IT UP.

As for your other claims, please provide evidence.

You won't, because you don't have any.

And you won't answer the same question about the orange bovine because you don't have any evidence for that either. You accept that, and that is why you don't believe in the orange bovine.

They are equal.

Who the heck cares who brought the bovine up? Seriously! Why are you obsessed with that?

Anyway, you totally missed the point. Go back and re-read. Scripture and a coherent path for living are evidence to believers. Also faith, as others on this thread have explained to you.

Because you keep calling it MY ANALOGY.

Scripture and a "coherent path for living" (whatever that is) are by no means evidence of anything for anyone. You don't apply that low standard to any other aspect of your life. And yes I understand faith.

My point was: A believer made an atheist's point by bringing up a ridiculous supernatural example (the orange bovine). If that example is ridiculous and not to be believed, why is any other supernatural claim any different?

It isn't.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ha! Again you fail to respond, and again it is because:

Translation: I do not wish to answer.
Reason: If I answer truthfully, I will have to say "because that is ridiculous , there is no evidence or reason to believe an orange bovine controls the universe" showing when it comes to that belief you are atheist, just like me. Which is good. And logical. And sensible.

As for your claim that Jesus is not dead, please provide evidence. Because if not, them I claim Marx is living in a 55-and over community in central Florida.

*wakes up after falling asleep during your post*

People aren’t responding to you because your analogy is beyond dumb. Did the orange bovine leave/inspire any scripture, promulgate any wise teachings, live an exemplary life for humans to imitate, or perform any miracles? No? Then it’s beyond dumb.

(yelling because it appears necessary) AGAIN, IT WASN'T MY ANALOGY. A BELIEVER (you?) BROUGHT IT UP.

As for your other claims, please provide evidence.

You won't, because you don't have any.

And you won't answer the same question about the orange bovine because you don't have any evidence for that either. You accept that, and that is why you don't believe in the orange bovine.

They are equal.

Who the heck cares who brought the bovine up? Seriously! Why are you obsessed with that?

Anyway, you totally missed the point. Go back and re-read. Scripture and a coherent path for living are evidence to believers. Also faith, as others on this thread have explained to you.

Because you keep calling it MY ANALOGY.

Scripture and a "coherent path for living" (whatever that is) are by no means evidence of anything for anyone. You don't apply that low standard to any other aspect of your life. And yes I understand faith.

My point was: A believer made an atheist's point by bringing up a ridiculous supernatural example (the orange bovine). If that example is ridiculous and not to be believed, why is any other supernatural claim any different?

It isn't.

OK, you’re trying to play some sort of gotcha game with that pp. It’s just more of your childishness. NOBODY CARES, besides you, who brought the bovine up.

Scripture and tradition are indeed evidence for many people, if not for you. As whoever brought the bovine up knows very well, there is no scripture for it. You don’t ever seem to have an answer for that...

You’re welcome to your atheism, it doesn’t bother me. What bothers me, and apparently others here (yes, more than one of us thinks you’re boring) is that you trash and derail religion threads with your boring, childish nonsense. I’ve said many times, DCUM needs to upgrade its atheists. I’ve had really interesting debates with atheist friends who actually know a few things about religion and aren’t all about silly analogies and gotcha games.

[Anonymous]

Guarantee: silly atheist has no good answer for any of 11:55’s points. So pretty soon he’ll be back here bumping an earlier post and trying to keep the thread going that way.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ha! Again you fail to respond, and again it is because:

Translation: I do not wish to answer.
Reason: If I answer truthfully, I will have to say "because that is ridiculous , there is no evidence or reason to believe an orange bovine controls the universe" showing when it comes to that belief you are atheist, just like me. Which is good. And logical. And sensible.

As for your claim that Jesus is not dead, please provide evidence. Because if not, them I claim Marx is living in a 55-and over community in central Florida.

*wakes up after falling asleep during your post*

People aren’t responding to you because your analogy is beyond dumb. Did the orange bovine leave/inspire any scripture, promulgate any wise teachings, live an exemplary life for humans to imitate, or perform any miracles? No? Then it’s beyond dumb.

(yelling because it appears necessary) AGAIN, IT WASN'T MY ANALOGY. A BELIEVER (you?) BROUGHT IT UP.

As for your other claims, please provide evidence.

You won't, because you don't have any.

And you won't answer the same question about the orange bovine because you don't have any evidence for that either. You accept that, and that is why you don't believe in the orange bovine.

They are equal.

Who the heck cares who brought the bovine up? Seriously! Why are you obsessed with that?

Anyway, you totally missed the point. Go back and re-read. Scripture and a coherent path for living are evidence to believers. Also faith, as others on this thread have explained to you.

Because you keep calling it MY ANALOGY.

Scripture and a "coherent path for living" (whatever that is) are by no means evidence of anything for anyone. You don't apply that low standard to any other aspect of your life. And yes I understand faith.

My point was: A believer made an atheist's point by bringing up a ridiculous supernatural example (the orange bovine). If that example is ridiculous and not to be believed, why is any other supernatural claim any different?

It isn't.

OK, you’re trying to play some sort of gotcha game with that pp. It’s just more of your childishness. NOBODY CARES, besides you, who brought the bovine up.

Stop lying:

03/27/2020 18:05 Faith isn’t an excuse: it’s a reason.

You don’t need excuses for your beliefs. You are allowed to have your own opinions and beliefs.

If I thought an orange bovine controlled the universe, it’s my choice and faith. You have zero say in it. Moo.

Not me who brought it up. A believer. So answer question that uses your example. And you are 100% right - it IS a "gotcha".

Scripture and tradition are indeed evidence for many people, if not for you. As whoever brought the bovine up knows very well, there is no scripture for it. You don’t ever seem to have an answer for that...

So everything for which there is a book is to be believed? Also, wouldn't that mean that the believer's first postulation: that "If I thought an orange bovine controlled the universe, it’s my choice and faith. You have zero say in it. Moo." is untrue, since you are not aware of any scripture for it?

You’re welcome to your atheism, it doesn’t bother me. What bothers me, and apparently others here (yes, more than one of us thinks you’re boring) is that you trash and derail religion threads with your boring, childish nonsense. I’ve said many times, DCUM needs to upgrade its atheists. I’ve had really interesting debates with atheist friends who actually know a few things about religion and aren’t all about silly analogies and gotcha games.

I am asking questions. You can answer them, ignore them, or respond boorishly and with insults like "yawn", as you seem to prefer. Your call. I'm good. I'll respond the way I see fit and ask questions I think are relevant to the discussion.

I'll finish here by pointing out one big difference between you and me: if I saw evidence, I would change my beliefs. Without regrets.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ha! Again you fail to respond, and again it is because:

Translation: I do not wish to answer.
Reason: If I answer truthfully, I will have to say "because that is ridiculous , there is no evidence or reason to believe an orange bovine controls the universe" showing when it comes to that belief you are atheist, just like me. Which is good. And logical. And sensible.

As for your claim that Jesus is not dead, please provide evidence. Because if not, them I claim Marx is living in a 55-and over community in central Florida.

*wakes up after falling asleep during your post*

People aren’t responding to you because your analogy is beyond dumb. Did the orange bovine leave/inspire any scripture, promulgate any wise teachings, live an exemplary life for humans to imitate, or perform any miracles? No? Then it’s beyond dumb.

(yelling because it appears necessary) AGAIN, IT WASN'T MY ANALOGY. A BELIEVER (you?) BROUGHT IT UP.

As for your other claims, please provide evidence.

You won't, because you don't have any.

And you won't answer the same question about the orange bovine because you don't have any evidence for that either. You accept that, and that is why you don't believe in the orange bovine.

They are equal.

Who the heck cares who brought the bovine up? Seriously! Why are you obsessed with that?

Anyway, you totally missed the point. Go back and re-read. Scripture and a coherent path for living are evidence to believers. Also faith, as others on this thread have explained to you.

Because you keep calling it MY ANALOGY.

Scripture and a "coherent path for living" (whatever that is) are by no means evidence of anything for anyone. You don't apply that low standard to any other aspect of your life. And yes I understand faith.

My point was: A believer made an atheist's point by bringing up a ridiculous supernatural example (the orange bovine). If that example is ridiculous and not to be believed, why is any other supernatural claim any different?

It isn't.

OK, you’re trying to play some sort of gotcha game with that pp. It’s just more of your childishness. NOBODY CARES, besides you, who brought the bovine up.

Stop lying:

03/27/2020 18:05 Faith isn’t an excuse: it’s a reason.

You don’t need excuses for your beliefs. You are allowed to have your own opinions and beliefs.

If I thought an orange bovine controlled the universe, it’s my choice and faith. You have zero say in it. Moo.

Not me who brought it up. A believer. So answer question that uses your example. And you are 100% right - it IS a "gotcha".

Scripture and tradition are indeed evidence for many people, if not for you. As whoever brought the bovine up knows very well, there is no scripture for it. You don’t ever seem to have an answer for that...

So everything for which there is a book is to be believed? Also, wouldn't that mean that the believer's first postulation: that "If I thought an orange bovine controlled the universe, it’s my choice and faith. You have zero say in it. Moo." is untrue, since you are not aware of any scripture for it?

You’re welcome to your atheism, it doesn’t bother me. What bothers me, and apparently others here (yes, more than one of us thinks you’re boring) is that you trash and derail religion threads with your boring, childish nonsense. I’ve said many times, DCUM needs to upgrade its atheists. I’ve had really interesting debates with atheist friends who actually know a few things about religion and aren’t all about silly analogies and gotcha games.

I am asking questions. You can answer them, ignore them, or respond boorishly and with insults like "yawn", as you seem to prefer. Your call. I'm good. I'll respond the way I see fit and ask questions I think are relevant to the discussion.

I'll finish here by pointing out one big difference between you and me: if I saw evidence, I would change my beliefs. Without regrets.

You make no sense. Show me where I “lied” about the origin of the bovine in the post above, i.e. after you cleared it up?

And what hubris, and, um, lying: Why do you think you’re the only one who trusts evidence?

Not to mention you fell into another faulty analogy. If you’re trying to make a point about which of us is capable of changing their mind (you didn’t express your point well), you’ve confused the actors and the causes. You’d have been better off saying you would/would not change your mind if god/gods/angels/fairies talked to you and I would/would not change my mind (although you’d have been wrong) change my mind with clear evidence there’s no god. The fundamental flaw with your new analogy, and probably why you were unable to express yourself and it failed so hard, is that you can’t disprove there’s no god. But I’m guessing you don’t even care if you make sense, you’re just spewing out whatever nonsense cones to mind.

I don’t have time for you endless silliness, bad logic, and childish games. Not worth my time. DCUM needs better atheists. Have a nice day.

[Anonymous]

^^ you can’t prove there’s no god. Either way, you failed again at simple logic and analogies.