I think God is teaching us a lesson

[Anonymous]

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Well first I give you credit for saying you would change your mind. Good for you!

Which god would you need to see evidence that it doesn't exist to not believe in? (we only ruled one out so far, your orange bovine).

What evidence would it take?

Your condescension is undermined by your demonstrated lack of skill with logic and basic reasoning. This new set of questions is a pointless wormhole, given that whatever I answer, you have no--zero, zilch, none, nada--evidence to bring against god/gods/fairies or even orange bovines. Not playing.

Well that says all anyone needs to know about you and your position, doesn't it?

My position is that you're a pointless waste of time. Bye!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You make no sense. Show me where I “lied” about the origin of the bovine in the post above, i.e. after you cleared it up?

At 03/29/2020 02:56 I mentioned that it was a believer, not me, who brought it up.
At 03/30/2020 11:30, I point it out again, IN CAPITAL LETTERS
At 03/30/2020 11:43, a third time

And then at 03/30/2020 11:55 you accuse me of being the one who brought it up

So, you either are lying, or not reading. Which is it?

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And what hubris, and, um, lying: Why do you think you’re the only one who trusts evidence?

On this topic? Yes, I do and you don't. I am certain you have a different (and much higher) standard of evidence for medicine, sciences, society and other areas.

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Not to mention you fell into another faulty analogy. If you’re trying to make a point about which of us is capable of changing their mind (you didn’t express your point well), you’ve confused the actors and the causes. You’d have been better off saying you would/would not change your mind if god/gods/angels/fairies talked to you and I would/would not change my mind (although you’d have been wrong) change my mind with clear evidence there’s no god. The fundamental flaw with your new analogy, and probably why you were unable to express yourself and it failed so hard, is that you can’t disprove there’s no god.

Not claiming there absolutely is no god. Only claiming I see insufficient evidence to support the existence of one.

It’s your bovine analogy because you adopted it and kept bringing it up for points you were trying to make. Your little gotcha game with pp became irrelevant after you took it over with your own agenda. This really shouldn’t be so hard for you.

Naahhh. That's dishonest right there. I do admire your ability to make the claim in the face of written evidence of its being false. I don't know how you do it.

You hijacked the bovine thing. Own it, you liar.

The DCUM religion forum, where asking a question about something someone else brings up is "hijacking". I guess it stinks to have even your most desperate examples work against you.

This would be hijacking it:

All Hail Elsie the Orange One, creator of all she surveys. Let us drink her milk and eat her burgers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:You make no sense. Show me where I “lied” about the origin of the bovine in the post above, i.e. after you cleared it up?

At 03/29/2020 02:56 I mentioned that it was a believer, not me, who brought it up.
At 03/30/2020 11:30, I point it out again, IN CAPITAL LETTERS
At 03/30/2020 11:43, a third time

And then at 03/30/2020 11:55 you accuse me of being the one who brought it up

So, you either are lying, or not reading. Which is it?

Anonymous wrote:
And what hubris, and, um, lying: Why do you think you’re the only one who trusts evidence?

On this topic? Yes, I do and you don't. I am certain you have a different (and much higher) standard of evidence for medicine, sciences, society and other areas.

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Not to mention you fell into another faulty analogy. If you’re trying to make a point about which of us is capable of changing their mind (you didn’t express your point well), you’ve confused the actors and the causes. You’d have been better off saying you would/would not change your mind if god/gods/angels/fairies talked to you and I would/would not change my mind (although you’d have been wrong) change my mind with clear evidence there’s no god. The fundamental flaw with your new analogy, and probably why you were unable to express yourself and it failed so hard, is that you can’t disprove there’s no god.

Not claiming there absolutely is no god. Only claiming I see insufficient evidence to support the existence of one.

It’s your bovine analogy because you adopted it and kept bringing it up for points you were trying to make. Your little gotcha game with pp became irrelevant after you took it over with your own agenda. This really shouldn’t be so hard for you.

Naahhh. That's dishonest right there. I do admire your ability to make the claim in the face of written evidence of its being false. I don't know how you do it.

You hijacked the bovine thing. Own it, you liar.

The DCUM religion forum, where asking a question about something someone else brings up is "hijacking". I guess it stinks to have even your most desperate examples work against you.

This would be hijacking it:

All Hail Elsie the Orange One, creator of all she surveys. Let us drink her milk and eat her burgers.

Way to insult Hindus, jerk.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Don't you think this whole virus thing is God teaching us a lesson about being so greedy and narcissistic? The effects of the virus have wiped out all the stock market gains since Trump was elected (the stock market being one of reasons republicans used to justify Trump as president). It is primarily affecting old people (most likely to vote Trump). The virus is forcing us all to stay home and reunite with our families, reexamine our priorities, and find ways to re-connect that truly meaningful (that is turning our backs on division). And the young people have to step and self-isolate in order to sav the old and sick (that is, teaching us selflessness). Is God teaching us a lesson?

No. But I do believe we are living in the end times. Everything we are seeing was predicted in the scripture.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Don't you think this whole virus thing is God teaching us a lesson about being so greedy and narcissistic? The effects of the virus have wiped out all the stock market gains since Trump was elected (the stock market being one of reasons republicans used to justify Trump as president). It is primarily affecting old people (most likely to vote Trump). The virus is forcing us all to stay home and reunite with our families, reexamine our priorities, and find ways to re-connect that truly meaningful (that is turning our backs on division). And the young people have to step and self-isolate in order to sav the old and sick (that is, teaching us selflessness). Is God teaching us a lesson?

OP, to subscribe to this theory, you have to believe that God sent the pandemic - and I do not. I think the fact that the coronavirus exists is proof that there is evil, disease and chaos in the world, and that is exactly the opposite of what God wants for his people.

Here is a wonderful (short - only 23 minutes) talk about this very topic by Tony Evans, a minister in Dallas. I highly recommend it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZYSxs5pS0M

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Don't you think this whole virus thing is God teaching us a lesson about being so greedy and narcissistic? The effects of the virus have wiped out all the stock market gains since Trump was elected (the stock market being one of reasons republicans used to justify Trump as president). It is primarily affecting old people (most likely to vote Trump). The virus is forcing us all to stay home and reunite with our families, reexamine our priorities, and find ways to re-connect that truly meaningful (that is turning our backs on division). And the young people have to step and self-isolate in order to sav the old and sick (that is, teaching us selflessness). Is God teaching us a lesson?

OP, to subscribe to this theory, you have to believe that God sent the pandemic - and I do not. I think the fact that the coronavirus exists is proof that there is evil, disease and chaos in the world, and that is exactly the opposite of what God wants for his people.

Here is a wonderful (short - only 23 minutes) talk about this very topic by Tony Evans, a minister in Dallas. I highly recommend it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZYSxs5pS0M

And as we already know from our own experience and from history, God cannot stop bad things from happening. However, praying to him can sometimes get him to stop the bad things already in progress and He is to be praised and thanked when that happens.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Don't you think this whole virus thing is God teaching us a lesson about being so greedy and narcissistic? The effects of the virus have wiped out all the stock market gains since Trump was elected (the stock market being one of reasons republicans used to justify Trump as president). It is primarily affecting old people (most likely to vote Trump). The virus is forcing us all to stay home and reunite with our families, reexamine our priorities, and find ways to re-connect that truly meaningful (that is turning our backs on division). And the young people have to step and self-isolate in order to sav the old and sick (that is, teaching us selflessness). Is God teaching us a lesson?

OP, to subscribe to this theory, you have to believe that God sent the pandemic - and I do not. I think the fact that the coronavirus exists is proof that there is evil, disease and chaos in the world, and that is exactly the opposite of what God wants for his people.

Here is a wonderful (short - only 23 minutes) talk about this very topic by Tony Evans, a minister in Dallas. I highly recommend it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZYSxs5pS0M

And as we already know from our own experience and from history, God cannot stop bad things from happening. However, praying to him can sometimes get him to stop the bad things already in progress and He is to be praised and thanked when that happens.

[Anonymous]

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And as we already know from our own experience and from history, God cannot stop bad things from happening.

Why not?

This is a primary question for many crises of faith.

[Anonymous]

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And as we already know from our own experience and from history, God cannot stop bad things from happening.

Why not?

This is a primary question for many crises of faith.

Don't know why God can't stop bad things from happening, but given the many bad things that have happened, including the current pandemic, it's pretty obvious that he can't - or won't.

And history tells us that god is nonetheless praised when the bad thing ends.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

And as we already know from our own experience and from history, God cannot stop bad things from happening.

Why not?

This is a primary question for many crises of faith.

Don't know why God can't stop bad things from happening, but given the many bad things that have happened, including the current pandemic, it's pretty obvious that he can't - or won't.

And history tells us that god is nonetheless praised when the bad thing ends.

Watch the Tony Evans video above!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

And as we already know from our own experience and from history, God cannot stop bad things from happening.

Why not?

This is a primary question for many crises of faith.

Don't know why God can't stop bad things from happening, but given the many bad things that have happened, including the current pandemic, it's pretty obvious that he can't - or won't.

And history tells us that god is nonetheless praised when the bad thing ends.

Watch the Tony Evans video above!

So God doesn't want the coronavirus for his people, but despite being omnipotent, he can't stop it. Then people praise him when it finally ends, after much death and destruction.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Don't you think this whole virus thing is God teaching us a lesson about being so greedy and narcissistic? The effects of the virus have wiped out all the stock market gains since Trump was elected (the stock market being one of reasons republicans used to justify Trump as president). It is primarily affecting old people (most likely to vote Trump). The virus is forcing us all to stay home and reunite with our families, reexamine our priorities, and find ways to re-connect that truly meaningful (that is turning our backs on division). And the young people have to step and self-isolate in order to sav the old and sick (that is, teaching us selflessness). Is God teaching us a lesson?

OP, to subscribe to this theory, you have to believe that God sent the pandemic - and I do not. I think the fact that the coronavirus exists is proof that there is evil, disease and chaos in the world, and that is exactly the opposite of what God wants for his people.

Here is a wonderful (short - only 23 minutes) talk about this very topic by Tony Evans, a minister in Dallas. I highly recommend it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZYSxs5pS0M

And as we already know from our own experience and from history, God cannot stop bad things from happening. However, praying to him can sometimes get him to stop the bad things already in progress and He is to be praised and thanked when that happens.

I really like Tony Evans. He used to have a church in Batimore. By the time I discovered him, he moved his ministry to Texas.

[Anonymous]

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And as we already know from our own experience and from history, God cannot stop bad things from happening.

Why not?

This is a primary question for many crises of faith.

Don't know why God can't stop bad things from happening, but given the many bad things that have happened, including the current pandemic, it's pretty obvious that he can't - or won't.

And history tells us that god is nonetheless praised when the bad thing ends.

Watch the Tony Evans video above!

So God doesn't want the coronavirus for his people, but despite being omnipotent, he can't stop it. Then people praise him when it finally ends, after much death and destruction.

You didn’t watch it, of course. Yes, of course God “could “ stop it immediately. But that is not always in the best interest of his people.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

And as we already know from our own experience and from history, God cannot stop bad things from happening.

Why not?

This is a primary question for many crises of faith.

Don't know why God can't stop bad things from happening, but given the many bad things that have happened, including the current pandemic, it's pretty obvious that he can't - or won't.

And history tells us that god is nonetheless praised when the bad thing ends.

Watch the Tony Evans video above!

So God doesn't want the coronavirus for his people, but despite being omnipotent, he can't stop it. Then people praise him when it finally ends, after much death and destruction.

You didn’t watch it, of course. Yes, of course God “could “ stop it immediately. But that is not always in the best interest of his people.

You see, this is the problem that many people have - god is omnipotent, and he COULD stop the immense global suffering, but he doesn't, because he understands what is best and we don't.

Couldn't he at least make us understand?

[Anonymous]

If God was teaching us lessons he would punish the evil and reward the good.

God has forsaken is because we are a terrible and selfish species.