My Doctor husband came home crying yesterday

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Anonymous wrote:OP it sounds like your DH is exhausted and overworked - and is therefore reacting more severely to what he anticipates is going to happen. Your title was a bit misleading. I was expecting for you to say that the dead are beginning to pile up, which is not the case YET.

+1000

This is the attitude causing mass hysteria. People in modern times cannot handle any sort of novel virus. That combined with SOCIAL MEDIA and the unprecedented HATRED towards our president has fueled this over the top reaction! Right away they think of bubonic plague wiping out half the human race. Currently the death rate in China from this virus is 0.000203% of their population! And has come to a screeching halt pretty much with the precautions taken now. I believe rational thinking is deteriorating more and more everyday.

Disagree with both of you. The media is reporting numbers of diagnoses, but not giving us a play-by-play of what is actually happening in hospitals. Testing is so f-up that the numbers media reports are much lower, leading to a false sense of security. OP is providing a public service, giving people the truth that will hopefully change behavior. There is no "mass hysteria" just people like you in denial because you don't understand the science of infections.

Also, there is unprecedented hatred for our president because we've never had one so despicable. The media reports truthfully on his word, action, and deed. Those of us with a moral compass make our own judgements. I'm sorry you have none.

You both are two extremes of the same reaction. Yes there are Covid cases here. No, we are not yet at the same volume as ny in ICUs. I don’t doubt er is seeing heavy traffic from people who think they “might” have it, but also true 90 percent of those who met the criteria for testing coming back negative.

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Anonymous wrote:The hysteria and the anxiety are draining. The actual number of positive Covid patients who require critical care in the DMV are still very low. They are not the people overwhelming the hospitals right now.

I think the hospitals are seeing a huge uptick in panic induced anxiety among the patients, as well as, the medical staff.

No, I am not on the front lines of this. It's easy to remain calm when I'm not the one actually dealing with it.

Why are you making things up and posting them as real?

If you have numbers indicating that there actually are a large number of positive Covid people who require hospitalization please do share.

The problem is, that the medical staff can't tell right away if someone is Covid positive or not and they have to treat everyone walking in as though they are a Covid patient.

Highly stressed, panicking people are freaking out all over the place. Probably a lot of them are winding up in the ER with self induced panic attacks, including difficulty breathing. Sad but true.[/quote]

This is what you are making up. How can you use the word "true" in that sentence?

I don't know what to tell you. If you are having a flood of people coming into your ER with symptoms and only a fraction of those people test positive and, of those people, only a fraction of them actually need to be at the hospital at all that would seem to indicate that something else is causing them to flood the ER. Maybe they are freaking out over seasonal allergy symptoms? I don't know.

Do they actually have severe Covid infections or is something else going on with them. So far, the number of positive test do not = massive ER overflow.

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So he is stressed about the logistics, not the severity of the virus. Correct?

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Anonymous wrote:OP it sounds like your DH is exhausted and overworked - and is therefore reacting more severely to what he anticipates is going to happen. Your title was a bit misleading. I was expecting for you to say that the dead are beginning to pile up, which is not the case YET.

+1000

This is the attitude causing mass hysteria. People in modern times cannot handle any sort of novel virus. That combined with SOCIAL MEDIA and the unprecedented HATRED towards our president has fueled this over the top reaction! Right away they think of bubonic plague wiping out half the human race. Currently the death rate in China from this virus is 0.000203% of their population! And has come to a screeching halt pretty much with the precautions taken now. I believe rational thinking is deteriorating more and more everyday.

Disagree with both of you. The media is reporting numbers of diagnoses, but not giving us a play-by-play of what is actually happening in hospitals. Testing is so f-up that the numbers media reports are much lower, leading to a false sense of security. OP is providing a public service, giving people the truth that will hopefully change behavior. There is no "mass hysteria" just people like you in denial because you don't understand the science of infections.

Also, there is unprecedented hatred for our president because we've never had one so despicable. The media reports truthfully on his word, action, and deed. Those of us with a moral compass make our own judgements. I'm sorry you have none.

You both are two extremes of the same reaction. Yes there are Covid cases here. No, we are not yet at the same volume as ny in ICUs. I don’t doubt er is seeing heavy traffic from people who think they “might” have it, but also true 90 percent of those who met the criteria for testing coming back negative.

Since everyone's being extreme, how about all the ER and ICU docs stay at home and self isolate for 2 weeks. You know, like you're able to do right now.

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Anonymous wrote:The Hopkins coronavirus map shows 71 positive cases in the district and another 107 in Maryland and 105 in Virginia. Are we really overwhelmed already?

It takes 5-7 days to get a positive diagnosis. Meanwhile, those people still need care. Give it a minute.

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Anonymous wrote:OP it sounds like your DH is exhausted and overworked - and is therefore reacting more severely to what he anticipates is going to happen. Your title was a bit misleading. I was expecting for you to say that the dead are beginning to pile up, which is not the case YET.

+1000

This is the attitude causing mass hysteria. People in modern times cannot handle any sort of novel virus. That combined with SOCIAL MEDIA and the unprecedented HATRED towards our president has fueled this over the top reaction! Right away they think of bubonic plague wiping out half the human race. Currently the death rate in China from this virus is 0.000203% of their population! And has come to a screeching halt pretty much with the precautions taken now. I believe rational thinking is deteriorating more and more everyday.

Disagree with both of you. The media is reporting numbers of diagnoses, but not giving us a play-by-play of what is actually happening in hospitals. Testing is so f-up that the numbers media reports are much lower, leading to a false sense of security. OP is providing a public service, giving people the truth that will hopefully change behavior. There is no "mass hysteria" just people like you in denial because you don't understand the science of infections.

Also, there is unprecedented hatred for our president because we've never had one so despicable. The media reports truthfully on his word, action, and deed. Those of us with a moral compass make our own judgements. I'm sorry you have none.

You both are two extremes of the same reaction. Yes there are Covid cases here. No, we are not yet at the same volume as ny in ICUs. I don’t doubt er is seeing heavy traffic from people who think they “might” have it, but also true 90 percent of those who met the criteria for testing coming back negative.

Since everyone's being extreme, how about all the ER and ICU docs stay at home and self isolate for 2 weeks. You know, like you're able to do right now.

+1

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Anonymous wrote:Just received an update from my brother who’s a hospitalist in Brooklyn. Really, really bleak. Plus lots of young patients really sick.

What exactly did he say that is so bleak? You didn't give any actual information.

Large orthodox community who were also community spreaders of measles in Brooklyn. Doesn't surprise me that there's probably a surge of younger patients from this demographic.

This is the group that had huge weddings this weekend in defiance of the "no large gatherings" rule. The fire department had to break up the weddings and the orthodox community was pissed and claiming they were being unfairly persecuted. This orthodox group kept their private schools open (the same ones that refused to comply with state requests for vaccination records) until a day or two ago when the disease was so widespread that teachers were all out side.

Then they overwhelmed the clinics yesterday because tons of people from the weddings and community had the virus.

I'm the pp above you, not the OP above me. I live in NY, they are a large and very close knit population. That's all I'm willing to say without getting flamed.

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Anonymous wrote:The Hopkins coronavirus map shows 71 positive cases in the district and another 107 in Maryland and 105 in Virginia. Are we really overwhelmed already?

It takes 5-7 days to get a positive diagnosis. Meanwhile, those people still need care. Give it a minute.

When someone shows up at a hospital with flu symptoms the protocol is that it is assumed they have the corona virus until proven otherwise. This is one of the reasons there is so much stress on the system even though the number of cases is low. And the number will multiply here just as it has elsewhere such as in Italy and Spain.

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Anonymous wrote:Just received an update from my brother who’s a hospitalist in Brooklyn. Really, really bleak. Plus lots of young patients really sick.

What exactly did he say that is so bleak? You didn't give any actual information.

Large orthodox community who were also community spreaders of measles in Brooklyn. Doesn't surprise me that there's probably a surge of younger patients from this demographic.

This is the group that had huge weddings this weekend in defiance of the "no large gatherings" rule. The fire department had to break up the weddings and the orthodox community was pissed and claiming they were being unfairly persecuted. This orthodox group kept their private schools open (the same ones that refused to comply with state requests for vaccination records) until a day or two ago when the disease was so widespread that teachers were all out side.

Then they overwhelmed the clinics yesterday because tons of people from the weddings and community had the virus.

I'm the pp above you, not the OP above me. I live in NY, they are a large and very close knit population. That's all I'm willing to say without getting flamed.

Like those idiot spring breakers in Florida some people just don't either don't care or are determined to live life their way.

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The website giving the 3 hour wait times doesn't change. Also, the 3 hour is for serious patients who are admitted and that is 3 hours until they are officially admitted to the hospital paperwork-wise, not 3 hours before they are seen by a doctor or treated.

https://www.hospitalstats.org/hospital-ratings/inova-fairfax-hospital-falls-church-va.htm

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Lots of respect for our essential services, but even more for doctors and nurses and paramedics.

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Op. Your husband is seeing the reality that others don't want to see. If he did not cry then he is as big a monster as the man in WH.

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Anonymous wrote:The Hopkins coronavirus map shows 71 positive cases in the district and another 107 in Maryland and 105 in Virginia. Are we really overwhelmed already?

I think everyone assume the real numbers are much much higher because the lack of testing. my guess is 10X higher.

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Anonymous wrote:My sister is an ER and med surge nurse at a Bon Secours hospital in Richmond. She has same concerns as OP’s DH. The hospital has Covad-19 positive patients. Their protective gear got downgraded and they’re even running out of the bad stuff. They’re making their own. The hospital has stopped elective surgeries and is turning 3 entire med surge floors into ICU floors. hospital staff being forced to work over shifts. They’re told if they’ve been exposed to Covad to still come in unless they have a fever. Richmond now has 2 clusters.

It’s real and it’s happening.

Are they bringing in nurses from other departments?

DH’s hospital is changing by the day. Doctors don’t seem to have to come in because clinic and surgeries are cancelled. Staff is going in as of now. Not sure for how much longer.

I asked DH if his nurses will be reassigned and he said he wasn’t sure. His hospital is not there yet. He has medical assistants, nurses, NPs and PAs who work with him and his colleagues.

As of now, DH will be on shifts for emergencies, kind of like being on call I guess.

PP here, her hospital may need to reassign nurses. They have tents set up in the parking lot so potential Covad patients don’t even go in the ER. She has 4 patients with pending tests but the tests are taking 5-7 BUSINESS days (which is insane) to come back. They don’t have enough tests. There are several other patients who she suspect have it but they haven’t been able to test them. One is in sepsis. Richmond has a cluster of community spread and it now has a retirement home/nursing community positive for which they can’t even get more tests.

There was a big, fancy hotel opening in Charlottesville about 10 days ago for Quirk, with several people from Charlottesville and Richmond in attendance. A couple who was at that party but live in Richmond have both tested positive and went to the press to admit they had it, they had been to all these parties, they had potentially come in contact with so many people. Last night 4 more people in Charlottesville and 1 in Albermarle positive. A few more in Richmond. (These numbers are not reflected in the VDOH count, there is a real lag and I don’t know why). It spreads among all circles. I would be ready.

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Anonymous wrote:I've been monitoring ER wait times at the inova hospitals in NOVA (https://www.inova.org/emergency-room-wait-times) for the past two weeks and they've remained consistent. My assumption is that the system is still working fine if ERs are moving people in and out. Is that not the case?

Our hospital has a tent set up outside for screening Covid. They are not going through the ER.

Took my husband for his cancer appointments yesterday. We had to go through a light screening before we could even enter the hospital.