Where did your B student go to college?

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Anonymous wrote:Check out Colleges that Change Lives. It's a book about overpriced second tier colleges for B students for parents who wish their kids could get into top schools but can't. DCUM families drool over the book . . .


OP, instead of believing this nasty post, I suggest you search for other threads on DCUM about CTCL. No need to rehash here what has already been discussed ad nauseum by proponents and opponents of those colleges and the types of students who actually attend them



OP, CTCL schools give very generous merit aid. Get him to study for the SATs. It pays dividends.


OP, CTCL schools are second tier and half their students don't graduate. They're a total scam. Send your kid to a solid Catholic college -- Jesuit if you can -- and they'll actually graduate with a marketable degree and do well. Don't waste your time on second tier liberal arts colleges.

You keep saying that. I do not think the word “half” means what you think it means. I looked it up:
St. Olaf College - 82%
Rhodes College - 82%
Denison University - 82%
Whitman College - 81%
Centre College - 80%
Hillsdale College - 79%
Wheaton College - 77%
Hampshire College - 75%
Juanita College - 74%
Kalamazoo College - 73%
Beloit College - 72%
Clark University - 71%
The College of Wooster - 70%
Hope College - 70%
St. John’s College - 70%
Cornell College - 68%
Knox College - 68%
Southwestern University - 67%
Willamette University - 67%
Puget Sound - 66%
Austin College - 66%
Wabash College - 66%
Lawrence University 66%
Allegheny College - 66%
Bard College - 66%
Hendrix College - 66%
St. Mary’s College - 65%
Agnes Scott College - 64%
Birmingham Southern - 63%
Goucher College - 63%
Eckerd College - 63%
Reed College - 61%
Ohio Wesleyan College - 61%
Millsaps College - 60%
McDaniel College - 59%
Earlham College - 58%
St. John’s College New Mexico - 54%
University of Lynchburg - 52%
New College of Florida - 52%
Guilford College - 51%
Hiram College - 51%
Emory and Henry College - 48%
Evergreen State - 42%



Thanks for posting all the numbers so folks can see just how low the overall graduation rates are. Here are the Catholic schools I mentioned for comparison:

Providence: 86 percent
Loyola Baltimore: 83 percent
Fairfield: 80 percent
Scranton: 80 percent
St Joe's: 73 percent

I'd go Jesuit

Well since you mention Jesuit, let’s take a look:
St. Peter’s University: 33%?
Canisus: 63%
Regis University: 51%
Loyola Chicago: 67%
Seattle University: 61%
Marquette: 67%
Spring Hill College: 50%
University of Detroit Mercy: 53%

Thanks for posting all the numbers so folks can see just how low the overall graduation rates are at Jesuit colleges.
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Anonymous wrote:W&L shocked the heck outta me with how academically focused it is. I always thought more preppy, well-off and fun-loving types attended the school. It is definitely a reach school.


W&L is a top 10 LAC. It is extremely hard to get into.
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Anonymous wrote:Can you two take it outside?


Why, exactly? The discussion is directly on point -- which colleges are the best bet for a B student.
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Anonymous wrote:Check out Colleges that Change Lives. It's a book about overpriced second tier colleges for B students for parents who wish their kids could get into top schools but can't. DCUM families drool over the book . . .


OP, instead of believing this nasty post, I suggest you search for other threads on DCUM about CTCL. No need to rehash here what has already been discussed ad nauseum by proponents and opponents of those colleges and the types of students who actually attend them



OP, CTCL schools give very generous merit aid. Get him to study for the SATs. It pays dividends.


OP, CTCL schools are second tier and half their students don't graduate. They're a total scam. Send your kid to a solid Catholic college -- Jesuit if you can -- and they'll actually graduate with a marketable degree and do well. Don't waste your time on second tier liberal arts colleges.

You keep saying that. I do not think the word “half” means what you think it means. I looked it up:
St. Olaf College - 82%
Rhodes College - 82%
Denison University - 82%
Whitman College - 81%
Centre College - 80%
Hillsdale College - 79%
Wheaton College - 77%
Hampshire College - 75%
Juanita College - 74%
Kalamazoo College - 73%
Beloit College - 72%
Clark University - 71%
The College of Wooster - 70%
Hope College - 70%
St. John’s College - 70%
Cornell College - 68%
Knox College - 68%
Southwestern University - 67%
Willamette University - 67%
Puget Sound - 66%
Austin College - 66%
Wabash College - 66%
Lawrence University 66%
Allegheny College - 66%
Bard College - 66%
Hendrix College - 66%
St. Mary’s College - 65%
Agnes Scott College - 64%
Birmingham Southern - 63%
Goucher College - 63%
Eckerd College - 63%
Reed College - 61%
Ohio Wesleyan College - 61%
Millsaps College - 60%
McDaniel College - 59%
Earlham College - 58%
St. John’s College New Mexico - 54%
University of Lynchburg - 52%
New College of Florida - 52%
Guilford College - 51%
Hiram College - 51%
Emory and Henry College - 48%
Evergreen State - 42%



Thanks for posting all the numbers so folks can see just how low the overall graduation rates are. Here are the Catholic schools I mentioned for comparison:

Providence: 86 percent
Loyola Baltimore: 83 percent
Fairfield: 80 percent
Scranton: 80 percent
St Joe's: 73 percent

I'd go Jesuit

Well since you mention Jesuit, let’s take a look:
St. Peter’s University: 33%?
Canisus: 63%
Regis University: 51%
Loyola Chicago: 67%
Seattle University: 61%
Marquette: 67%
Spring Hill College: 50%
University of Detroit Mercy: 53%

Thanks for posting all the numbers so folks can see just how low the overall graduation rates are at Jesuit colleges.


Wow. You conveniently forgot:

Georgetown 95 percent
Holy Cross 92 percent
Boston College 91 percent
Santa Clara 85 percent
Fordham 83 percent
Gonzaga 83 percent
Creighton 78 percent
Loyola Marymount 78 percent
John Carroll 72 percent
Le Moyne 72 percent
St Louis 72 percent
San Francisco 71 percent
Xavier 71 percent
Rockhurst 69 percent
Loyola New Orleans 62 percent

St Peter's, by the way, is two-thirds URM and does remarkably well with its demographic.

Finally, I also said if I were looking I'd go for a 10 ten regionally ranked school, not every single Jesuit school in the country. However, having said that, comparing all the Jesuit schools to all the CTLC schools it's pretty clear that overall the Jesuit schools have higher graduation rates without having tougher admission rates. Lots of B students.

You're really going to argue that Jesuit colleges don't compare well to CTCL schools?

If you're going to play, play fair -- don't cite partial data that focuses only on the least selective Jesuit schools. Play fair.
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Yawn. This thread wasn’t nearly as helpful as I hoped it would be. Can the two fighting about Jesuit schools (??) move on?
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Neither can construct a decent argument.
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To sum up, the average graduation rate at Jesuit schools is 76 percent excluding St Peters and 74 percent including the school.

By my count, only 7/9 CTCL schools are higher than the Jesuit average -- with 35/37 below it.

We have a clear winner.
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Anonymous wrote:Yawn. This thread wasn’t nearly as helpful as I hoped it would be. Can the two fighting about Jesuit schools (??) move on?


Explain why suggesting a Jesuit school to a B student isn't any more relevant than a CTCL school please.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:To sum up, the average graduation rate at Jesuit schools is 76 percent excluding St Peters and 74 percent including the school.

By my count, only 7/9 CTCL schools are higher than the Jesuit average -- with 35/37 below it.

We have a clear winner.


Yeah - except that the schools you are espousing (Fairfield, Scranton, Providence, Fordham) are provincial at best as are their student bodies.

And I'd say Providence and Fordham are both in sh$t neighborhoods. Can't speak to Scranton. Fairfield is full of dim witted bridge and tunnel wanna-be Lax Bros - now that I am thinking about it I'd put Fordham in the same category - and Rose Hill is a sh$thole. I know I spent years there. Those Fordham kids don't belong in that neighborhood - they are prey for the locals. And when Fordham offered my daughter 35k off - my DW and I said no way are you going to Fordham. What - to get falling down drunk and picked up by the 52nd precinct cops and brought back. There's a reason the whole campus is gated. And Fairfield - God forbid my kid turns into one of those entitled, spoiled, knuckleheads.

And can we talk about the wholesale pedophile's running the Catholic church at any point ? Is this an organization that you are recommending I support ?

How did you get your head so far up your arse ?
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Anonymous wrote:Yawn. This thread wasn’t nearly as helpful as I hoped it would be. Can the two fighting about Jesuit schools (??) move on?


Explain why suggesting a Jesuit school to a B student isn't any more relevant than a CTCL school please.


It would be fine to suggest one and move on - but you’re not going to move on, are you? If you keep derailing the thread with your insistence on having the last word about something so irrelevant, I’ll be happy to report you. MOVE ON.
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Anonymous wrote:To sum up, the average graduation rate at Jesuit schools is 76 percent excluding St Peters and 74 percent including the school.

By my count, only 7/9 CTCL schools are higher than the Jesuit average -- with 35/37 below it.

We have a clear winner.


Insufferable. Go away.
Anonymous
Are B students typically Catholic?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:To sum up, the average graduation rate at Jesuit schools is 76 percent excluding St Peters and 74 percent including the school.

By my count, only 7/9 CTCL schools are higher than the Jesuit average -- with 35/37 below it.

We have a clear winner.


Yeah - except that the schools you are espousing (Fairfield, Scranton, Providence, Fordham) are provincial at best as are their student bodies.

And I'd say Providence and Fordham are both in sh$t neighborhoods. Can't speak to Scranton. Fairfield is full of dim witted bridge and tunnel wanna-be Lax Bros - now that I am thinking about it I'd put Fordham in the same category - and Rose Hill is a sh$thole. I know I spent years there. Those Fordham kids don't belong in that neighborhood - they are prey for the locals. And when Fordham offered my daughter 35k off - my DW and I said no way are you going to Fordham. What - to get falling down drunk and picked up by the 52nd precinct cops and brought back. There's a reason the whole campus is gated. And Fairfield - God forbid my kid turns into one of those entitled, spoiled, knuckleheads.

And can we talk about the wholesale pedophile's running the Catholic church at any point ? Is this an organization that you are recommending I support ?

How did you get your head so far up your arse ?

+10000 I went to Providence and this is spot on. Its culture is such that I would not encourage my child to go there.
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Anonymous wrote:What are your in-state options. Start there.


You won't get into University of Maryland with a B average. Uh uh!
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