School bus tickets seem like a scam that scream corruption

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You mean to tell me they can’t sell bonds to pay for the cameras then pay the bonds off with the proceeds of the tickets? With the number of citations they’re issuing it wouldn’t take long. How does someone negotiate a deal where they just collect free money?

https://wtop.com/montgomery-county/2019/11/school-bus-camera-contract-under-review-in-montgomery-county/

The revenue from those citations would go to the vendor in exchange for installation of the cameras “at no cost” to the county.

Wow this sounds like something that we never though would happen in developed countries

This is the country where a corporation beibed Congress to make income taxes a difficult as possible to compute and report, to pressure you into buying their product, and then violated the very law they wrote.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Appeal. It’s a rather easy and quick procedure. Last time I went, 50% had their fine dropped to $100, the rest ended with no fine. Not one paid $250.

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[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Oddly, the only people who ever complain about this are people who have been nailed. Stop breaking the law and driving past school buses with their red lights flashing. Then you won't have any problems. And be glad it was the camera that caught you and not a cop, because then the fine is $600 and 3 points.

No Trumper, that's not who complains about this. The people complaining are called the FBI and they arrested the CEO of the company and sent him to prison.

The other people complaining about this are the 20% of the people who get fake citations. They get sent a citation that isn't a violation and they have the choice of taking a day off from work to sit around District Court or paying a fake fine. They complain too. A lot.

+1. I received a citation when driving on the opposite side of the road from the bus ON A DIVIDED HIGHWAY - not a violation. The video showed 5-6 other cars doing the same thing not violating the law. My bet is they all got tickets. But when the option is to pay the ticket or take half a day out off work to fight it, people pay it.

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That’s how Bus Patrol America makes their money. It is a for profit business to make easy cash from drivers.

Is it private equity owned or who owns it?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Oddly, the only people who ever complain about this are people who have been nailed. Stop breaking the law and driving past school buses with their red lights flashing. Then you won't have any problems. And be glad it was the camera that caught you and not a cop, because then the fine is $600 and 3 points.

No Trumper, that's not who complains about this. The people complaining are called the FBI and they arrested the CEO of the company and sent him to prison.

The other people complaining about this are the 20% of the people who get fake citations. They get sent a citation that isn't a violation and they have the choice of taking a day off from work to sit around District Court or paying a fake fine. They complain too. A lot.

+1. I received a citation when driving on the opposite side of the road from the bus ON A DIVIDED HIGHWAY - not a violation. The video showed 5-6 other cars doing the same thing not violating the law. My bet is they all got tickets. But when the option is to pay the ticket or take half a day out off work to fight it, people pay it.

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That’s how Bus Patrol America makes their money. It is a for profit business to make easy cash from drivers.

Is it private equity owned or who owns it?

Owners are now in prison for corruption and completely destroying entire Dallas public school bus system.

[Anonymous]

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Sorry to resurrect this one more time but my husband and I have gotten two of these tickets in the last two months, and we had never received one before. Has anyone else gotten more of these lately? Are they ramping it up? Or just coincidence. And has anything come of the efforts to scrutinize this?

In both cases, as many others have stated, we were several lanes away on the opposite side of the road and drove by within a couple seconds of the stop sign going out. Slamming on the brakes could have caused an accident. We paid the first one, since it was the first time, but getting the second one right after it really peaked my suspicion and I found this thread.

The answers saying "it's simple, just don't pass a school bus" are frustrating - this is a very specific complaint in which stopping could have caused an accident, and the school bus was very far away. And $250 is a lot of money! And it's now $500 for us.

They have not ramped up the program. They are on all the buses and have been for a couple years now.

Try to stop for the yellow lights, and don't try to guess when the lights turn red.

Not judging. It's only by sheer luck I haven't gotten one. But I focus on the yellow lights. That provides more time to stop. It's better to stop or slow when you don't need to than to get a ticket (or worse hit a kid).

You “focus” on yellow lights 6 lanes away on buses coming from the opposite direction. Heaven help the cats around you that are are about to get slammed.

[Anonymous]

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Sorry to resurrect this one more time but my husband and I have gotten two of these tickets in the last two months, and we had never received one before. Has anyone else gotten more of these lately? Are they ramping it up? Or just coincidence. And has anything come of the efforts to scrutinize this?

In both cases, as many others have stated, we were several lanes away on the opposite side of the road and drove by within a couple seconds of the stop sign going out. Slamming on the brakes could have caused an accident. We paid the first one, since it was the first time, but getting the second one right after it really peaked my suspicion and I found this thread.

The answers saying "it's simple, just don't pass a school bus" are frustrating - this is a very specific complaint in which stopping could have caused an accident, and the school bus was very far away. And $250 is a lot of money! And it's now $500 for us.

Yes they ramped it up since inspector genrr we Al said contract was a sham and MCPS should ditch them. Their time to grab your cash is limited.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Sorry to resurrect this one more time but my husband and I have gotten two of these tickets in the last two months, and we had never received one before. Has anyone else gotten more of these lately? Are they ramping it up? Or just coincidence. And has anything come of the efforts to scrutinize this?

In both cases, as many others have stated, we were several lanes away on the opposite side of the road and drove by within a couple seconds of the stop sign going out. Slamming on the brakes could have caused an accident. We paid the first one, since it was the first time, but getting the second one right after it really peaked my suspicion and I found this thread.

The answers saying "it's simple, just don't pass a school bus" are frustrating - this is a very specific complaint in which stopping could have caused an accident, and the school bus was very far away. And $250 is a lot of money! And it's now $500 for us.

They have not ramped up the program. They are on all the buses and have been for a couple years now.

Try to stop for the yellow lights, and don't try to guess when the lights turn red.

Not judging. It's only by sheer luck I haven't gotten one. But I focus on the yellow lights. That provides more time to stop. It's better to stop or slow when you don't need to than to get a ticket (or worse hit a kid).

You “focus” on yellow lights 6 lanes away on buses coming from the opposite direction. Heaven help the cats around you that are are about to get slammed.

If you can't operate a motor vehicle while being aware of your surroundings - especially blinking lights - you should stop driving.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Sorry to resurrect this one more time but my husband and I have gotten two of these tickets in the last two months, and we had never received one before. Has anyone else gotten more of these lately? Are they ramping it up? Or just coincidence. And has anything come of the efforts to scrutinize this?

In both cases, as many others have stated, we were several lanes away on the opposite side of the road and drove by within a couple seconds of the stop sign going out. Slamming on the brakes could have caused an accident. We paid the first one, since it was the first time, but getting the second one right after it really peaked my suspicion and I found this thread.

The answers saying "it's simple, just don't pass a school bus" are frustrating - this is a very specific complaint in which stopping could have caused an accident, and the school bus was very far away. And $250 is a lot of money! And it's now $500 for us.

Yes they ramped it up since inspector genrr we Al said contract was a sham and MCPS should ditch them. Their time to grab your cash is limited.

River road one at 3:15 pm collects $1000s per minute at that six lane stop.

Can’t believe the money goes to a private vendor and not the schools, county or police.

How mal-aligned. No wonder other buses never stop of busy roads, they know it’s a racket and won’t pay.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Sorry to resurrect this one more time but my husband and I have gotten two of these tickets in the last two months, and we had never received one before. Has anyone else gotten more of these lately? Are they ramping it up? Or just coincidence. And has anything come of the efforts to scrutinize this?

In both cases, as many others have stated, we were several lanes away on the opposite side of the road and drove by within a couple seconds of the stop sign going out. Slamming on the brakes could have caused an accident. We paid the first one, since it was the first time, but getting the second one right after it really peaked my suspicion and I found this thread.

The answers saying "it's simple, just don't pass a school bus" are frustrating - this is a very specific complaint in which stopping could have caused an accident, and the school bus was very far away. And $250 is a lot of money! And it's now $500 for us.

They have not ramped up the program. They are on all the buses and have been for a couple years now.

Try to stop for the yellow lights, and don't try to guess when the lights turn red.

Not judging. It's only by sheer luck I haven't gotten one. But I focus on the yellow lights. That provides more time to stop. It's better to stop or slow when you don't need to than to get a ticket (or worse hit a kid).

You “focus” on yellow lights 6 lanes away on buses coming from the opposite direction. Heaven help the cats around you that are are about to get slammed.

If you can't operate a motor vehicle while being aware of your surroundings - especially blinking lights - you should stop driving.

If you are so stupid that you can’t recognize when you are being scammed you should stay off the internet.

[Anonymous]

Also how do you appeal? No option on the ticket, of course

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Also how do you appeal? No option on the ticket, of course

https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/pol/howdoI/pay-schoolbus-ticket.html

But even better is avoiding a school bus citation in the first place by stopping for stopped school buses.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Also how do you appeal? No option on the ticket, of course

https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/pol/howdoI/pay-schoolbus-ticket.html

But even better is avoiding a school bus citation in the first place by stopping for stopped school buses.

seriously.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Also how do you appeal? No option on the ticket, of course

https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/pol/howdoI/pay-schoolbus-ticket.html

But even better is avoiding a school bus citation in the first place by stopping for stopped school buses.

That are coming from the opposite direction on a six lane road that you can’t see through a tractor trailer.

Get a grip. If you could stop the company wouldn’t have cooked up this scam to make millions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Also how do you appeal? No option on the ticket, of course

https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/pol/howdoI/pay-schoolbus-ticket.html

But even better is avoiding a school bus citation in the first place by stopping for stopped school buses.

That are coming from the opposite direction on a six lane road that you can’t see through a tractor trailer.

Get a grip. If you could stop the company wouldn’t have cooked up this scam to make millions.

That's silly. A tractor trailer is not going to exactly match a bus "and" you to perfectly obstruct your line of vision for any significant distance.

You are supposed to be scanning the road, ahead of you most of all, but all around. We all know that buses are picking up kids in the morning and dropping them in the afternoon. We should all be on alert for them, and for the fact they stop often.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Also how do you appeal? No option on the ticket, of course

https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/pol/howdoI/pay-schoolbus-ticket.html

But even better is avoiding a school bus citation in the first place by stopping for stopped school buses.

That are coming from the opposite direction on a six lane road that you can’t see through a tractor trailer.

Get a grip. If you could stop the company wouldn’t have cooked up this scam to make millions.

That's silly. A tractor trailer is not going to exactly match a bus "and" you to perfectly obstruct your line of vision for any significant distance.

You are supposed to be scanning the road, ahead of you most of all, but all around. We all know that buses are picking up kids in the morning and dropping them in the afternoon. We should all be on alert for them, and for the fact they stop often.

If you are driving watching 3 lanes over in the opposite direction through traffic you just hit the kid crossing in front of you. You clearly don’t drive in rush hour if you don’t know how a tractor trailer can block a bus.