ICE Raids

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OP - I doubt you will get any reasonable responses from liberals because there really is no reasonable solution that doesn't include detention and deportation.

A whole lot of virtue signaling going on with the liberals these days.

We've done it to ourselves by ignoring the law and creating a sense of entitlement in others.

Have you see the African migrants storm the Pantheon in France, demanding legal status?

I cannot believe how more and more people lack common sense these days.

+1

The fabric of society is eroded once laws and rules are ignored.

[Anonymous]

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+1. The Holocaust center has been advocating on behalf of refugees worldwide, not just Europeans with white faces.

They have also said to quit comparing this to the Holocaust. Which is what you are doing.

If it looks like a duck and walks like a duck and quacks like a duck...

Sorry if you find it uncomfortable to follow Orange Hitler. But, we all make choices. It just so happens that you made bad ones.

Enforcing our borders is never a bad choice.
Sorry you don't approve of rule of law.

Anne Frank, and the people who sheltered her, didn't approve of the rule of law, either.

I believe Anne Frank's parents were German citizens.

They had their citizenship stripped.

+1. She was German gown but had her citizenship stripped. Anne Frank was stateless, and the US denied her visa.

[Anonymous]

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+1. The Holocaust center has been advocating on behalf of refugees worldwide, not just Europeans with white faces.

They have also said to quit comparing this to the Holocaust. Which is what you are doing.

If it looks like a duck and walks like a duck and quacks like a duck...

Sorry if you find it uncomfortable to follow Orange Hitler. But, we all make choices. It just so happens that you made bad ones.

Enforcing our borders is never a bad choice.
Sorry you don't approve of rule of law.

Anne Frank, and the people who sheltered her, didn't approve of the rule of law, either.

I believe Anne Frank's parents were German citizens.

They had their citizenship stripped.

+1. She was German gown but had her citizenship stripped. Anne Frank was stateless, and the US denied her visa.

+2. Also, she wasn’t gassed. She died of typhus in a dirty, crowded, disease-ridden camp.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

+1. The Holocaust center has been advocating on behalf of refugees worldwide, not just Europeans with white faces.

They have also said to quit comparing this to the Holocaust. Which is what you are doing.

If it looks like a duck and walks like a duck and quacks like a duck...

Sorry if you find it uncomfortable to follow Orange Hitler. But, we all make choices. It just so happens that you made bad ones.

Enforcing our borders is never a bad choice.
Sorry you don't approve of rule of law.

Anne Frank, and the people who sheltered her, didn't approve of the rule of law, either.

I believe Anne Frank's parents were German citizens.

They had their citizenship stripped.

+1. She was German gown but had her citizenship stripped. Anne Frank was stateless, and the US denied her visa.

+2. Also, she wasn’t gassed. She died of typhus in a dirty, crowded, disease-ridden camp.

+3 And, she and her sister were separated from their parents.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This has NOTHING to do with Anne Frank.

+1,000
And the detention centers are NOT concentration camps. It’s truly abhorrent that Democrats are actually comparing any of this to the Holocaust.

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I know this from reports I’ve read on NYTimes, WaPo, Slate, listen to podcasts, etc with people providing legal aid and humanitarian assistance to asylum seekers. For example, at many Texan ports of entry the CBP essentially hands out lottery numbers. Then they have to stand at the crossing to see if they are lucky enough so their number is called. Many asylum seekers have been waiting for weeks just to plead their case to a CBP Officer. Even then, many of those officers just say “No” without letting the asylum seeker make their case to a judge or case worker. CBP processing of asylum requests have slowed to a virtual trickle.

So stop telling people to do it “the legal way.” It has purposely been slowed down by Trump. And it’s causing more crisis, more panic, and more illegal entries at the border. This Administration is not interested in helping people do it legally.

I have a friend who works in immigration. Her story is entirely different. There is a LEGAL way to do this.

First of all, don't cross unless you have papers. Most of these folks aren't escaping hardship where their wives and sisters are being raped by gang members while their sons are being recruited. They are moving for economic reasons. Sure - no shame in that, right? But most will get jobs here that mirror those they left back home. So we need to figure out a SOLID plan where our AID is actually used toward development and job training in those countries.

What happened to the request to hire more immigration judges? Under Obama, when the migrant youths arrived, immigration was so backlogged that she had to travel to help with processing. If there's literally a swarm of people arriving, you can't expect processing to be efficient unless you hire more people to assist with processing.

And when they ARE processed, what are the stats on those who show up for their court dates? I was given some stats for those being processed in Georgia, and they weren't pretty. So people are living in the shadows, and if they're lucky they'll find their way to CA for free healthcare.

Do you understand how incredibly expensive this is? In order to have “papers” in many of these countries, you have to own property or show a level of wealth. It is also incredibly expensive on the US side. The filing fee for one form in the US is over $750. We need financial support to allow them to do this correctly.

And yet people manage. My former nanny and her husband are from El Salvador. They arrived through legal measures and they're both citizens. Her life wasn't easy back home, and when she arrived, her life was filled with struggles, too. She has been taking English classes for the past two years. She speaks well, but she wants to be fully literate.

sorry - I'm not making excuses for anyone. I'm first gen. My family came through Ellis Island. The men arrived first and saved enough money to bring over the others. My dad was also in the military, as was his brother.

The enabling is a slap in the face to those who entered legally. This is really not a gray issue, as asylum cases are clear. Economic betterment isn't a hardship.

I'm not saying the pathway is easy. But there's still a pathway people should follow.

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Anonymous wrote: Announcing there is a raid coming sort of defeats the point though, doesn’t it?

No, because a percentage of people here illegally will self deport before being arrested.

doubtful

They'll slip under the radar, continue to work for cash, and live with others who will cover for them. This is how it's been for a long time - only now, it's "acceptable." And yes, the free healthcare incentive in CA (as noted by another poster) will keep them here.

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As will Gavin Newsom’s instructions to illegal immigrants on “knowing their rights.”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP - I doubt you will get any reasonable responses from liberals because there really is no reasonable solution that doesn't include detention and deportation.

A whole lot of virtue signaling going on with the liberals these days.

We've done it to ourselves by ignoring the law and creating a sense of entitlement in others.

Have you see the African migrants storm the Pantheon in France, demanding legal status?

I cannot believe how more and more people lack common sense these days.

Did you see the Africans block the airport shouting, “France is not for France! France is for everybody!” insisting on citizenship???!!! They call themselves the Black Jackets.

Now if they’d make demands of their own governments there would be no need to seek greener pastures elsewhere.

Exactly. Incredible arrogance.

[Anonymous]

"Do you understand how incredibly expensive this is? We need financial support to allow them to do this correctly."

Follow the money.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP - I doubt you will get any reasonable responses from liberals because there really is no reasonable solution that doesn't include detention and deportation.

A whole lot of virtue signaling going on with the liberals these days.

We've done it to ourselves by ignoring the law and creating a sense of entitlement in others.

Have you see the African migrants storm the Pantheon in France, demanding legal status?

I cannot believe how more and more people lack common sense these days.

Did you see the Africans block the airport shouting, “France is not for France! France is for everybody!” insisting on citizenship???!!! They call themselves the Black Jackets.

Now if they’d make demands of their own governments there would be no need to seek greener pastures elsewhere.

Exactly. Incredible arrogance.

What do you know about French colonialism?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP - I doubt you will get any reasonable responses from liberals because there really is no reasonable solution that doesn't include detention and deportation.

A whole lot of virtue signaling going on with the liberals these days.

We've done it to ourselves by ignoring the law and creating a sense of entitlement in others.

Have you see the African migrants storm the Pantheon in France, demanding legal status?

I cannot believe how more and more people lack common sense these days.

Did you see the Africans block the airport shouting, “France is not for France! France is for everybody!” insisting on citizenship???!!! They call themselves the Black Jackets.

Now if they’d make demands of their own governments there would be no need to seek greener pastures elsewhere.

Exactly. Incredible arrogance.

What do you know about French colonialism?

I'm confused. Does French colonialism mean the French aren't allowed to have immigration laws?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

+1. The Holocaust center has been advocating on behalf of refugees worldwide, not just Europeans with white faces.

They have also said to quit comparing this to the Holocaust. Which is what you are doing.

If it looks like a duck and walks like a duck and quacks like a duck...

Sorry if you find it uncomfortable to follow Orange Hitler. But, we all make choices. It just so happens that you made bad ones.

Enforcing our borders is never a bad choice.
Sorry you don't approve of rule of law.

Anne Frank, and the people who sheltered her, didn't approve of the rule of law, either.

+1. Sometimes laws conflict with basic morals. At one time, the laws said whites people could own black people, and that I was not entitled to vote. And the old who broke the law to shelter Jewish refugees are now thought of as heroes while those who ignored their plight are considered stupid and callous.

Once again, this is not the Holocaust, as much as the sickening idea seems to thrill you, and no one is hunting down immigrants, trying to kill them. Try saying it with me: every single immigrant, at the border or here in the country, is here voluntarily. You are not a hero if you’re hiding people who are here illegally. Sorry to burst your fantasy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:"Do you understand how incredibly expensive this is? We need financial support to allow them to do this correctly."

Follow the money.

What exacting are you alluding too? Please, enlighten me.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP - I doubt you will get any reasonable responses from liberals because there really is no reasonable solution that doesn't include detention and deportation.

A whole lot of virtue signaling going on with the liberals these days.

We've done it to ourselves by ignoring the law and creating a sense of entitlement in others.

Have you see the African migrants storm the Pantheon in France, demanding legal status?

I cannot believe how more and more people lack common sense these days.

+1

The fabric of society is eroded once laws and rules are ignored.

+2

[Anonymous]

I watched Ben Ray Lujan, the Dem assistant speaker of the House, being asked on Fox News Sunday why people with final deportation orders shouldn't be deported. He just rambles about how only criminals should be deported. Democrats want open borders. Period.