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WPPSI - Caught Cheating?
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Anonymous
| No one has answered the questions: do you lie to the tester? Do you instruct your child to lie? |
Anonymous
No one has to lie. The child responds to what is asked and I've never heard of any tester asking parents if they purchased a copy of the test. If the child is asked, "have you played with these blocks before" - the child can answer honestly. If the answer is 'yes' - then it could be similar blocks, blocks from Playskool, the same blocks - the tester can't make any definitive conclusion from a 4 year old's comments. Even if the child has seen the actual test, the child still has to do the coding, the symbok search, the blocks, know the vocabulary - that in itself is no small feat. To my knowledge, no one has had their scores invalidated because a tester 'suspected' something or because a child said he or she played with some blocks that were like the ones the tester had. Playing with the same or similar blocks is not a criminal activity. They were commercially available through Playskool. You can get them here: http://boyscanread.com/iq/inventory.htm Oops, someone bought them. There goes the curve on Performance IQ and someone's child will be permanently scarred for "cheating" 
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Anonymous
PS - that website "boyscanread.com" will rent IQ tests to anyone who has a grad school ID with psych courses. Any any grad student going for a PhD can take the test out of their school library. Definitely not secure. One interview mentioned sarcastically that a very very high number of psychologist's kids do phenominally well on the test.
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Anonymous
From their product q&a page: "I want to increase my child's IQ. What can I do over the next 3 months or more to accomplish this? Take lots of tests. Our guess is that you can increase scores 10-20 points by doing this. These tests can be of almost any form, but we think IQ related tests will produce the best results." IQ test results are utter bullshit! |
Anonymous
You're wrong, testers do note on a child's report-narrative when there is an over familiarity with a subset or if she suspects that the test has been administered recently/before. |
Anonymous
False. No tester is going to open him/herself up to litigation from some multi-millionaire parent who believes his/her child has been falsely labeled by a tester. And especially not for a test that most psychologists recognize is being misused. (Was never intended to be used to screen for giftedness; was for learning disabilities.) Phrases like, "started exercises before instructions were given' - is NOT "code" speak. There is no "code speak"... These testing places aren't going to bite the hand that feeds them and get a bunch of wealthy, powerful people pissed off at them over 'suspicions'... |
Anonymous
Interesting perspective. I onder if that's why all of the kids in DC from wealthy parents seem to score 99.9 percentile. The whole thing is such BS! |
Anonymous
EXACTLY. With all the PhDs in Education at these TT privates, how is it that they can't come up with their own school-appropriate screening test w/o relying on the WPPSI? I think they prefer things as they are, warts and all... |
Anonymous
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If this test is really 10 years old, it would be interesting to see the average scores of this cohort when the test first came out. They were probably lower.
It would also be interesting to see the scores of this cohort tested by some unknown tester from say Kansas, who gets NO referrals. Lets face it, you give me a poor WPPSI score, yoy think I will recommend you?.... |
Anonymous
Your suspicions are right on. Since the test was used in NYC, there has been a ridiculous rise in the number of 99+s, year-to-year. With every passing year, average scores rise. In fact, there is one well-known tester in NYC who gets sent all the kids with 'issues' on the test - she coaxes out the highest possible scores with "are you sure", etc. Total BS. |
Anonymous
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The testers are probably the biggest fudgers in this game.
If they know how things work, there is nothing like a 99.9% to put a smile on the face of a parent. It's not like they can be sued (like doctors) for wrong WPPSI score. They can do as they please. So a kid scores 95%, why not fudge to 99%. When that bright child goes to Siddie, do you think they will say, "hmmm, he's not functioning like a 99%er, but rather like a 95%er"? No way. Also, if a senator's son comes in and scores 83%ile, hey, make it look like 93%. It will not show. Keep the parents happy, keep the referrals coming, $$$$. |
Anonymous
| Finally, people are beginning to get it. I thought the flood gates would never open. The high minded moralists have now buried their heads. EXPOSED for what the WPPSI exam is...a pure multi-million dollar racket/scam (like the parent SAT/ACT business model). I continue to "study, prep, create and play for leisure and pleasure" with toys the God fairy dropped off for a hot summer of fun so "my brain doesn't turn to mush". |
Anonymous
| Moralist: "But, that's cheating. How can you live with yourself and child? Will you confess to the psychologist that your child plays with blocks, puzzles, mazes, numbers and words...and works on his fine motor skill on the piano? (before or after he/she cashes your $500 check) |
Anonymous
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"No one has answered the questions: do you lie to the tester? Do you instruct your child to lie?"
______________________________________________________________________________ Answer: No But the real question to ask is why the tester lies to you? .... and why you still believe your child's IQ score is 1:1000? |
Anonymous
Yes. Absolutely right on. These tests are normed using results from all over the US, and the scores include learning disabled, mentally handicapped, etc. If you want a true percentile ranking of your child on the test in this applications process - compare to previous scores in DC among other private school applicants. Then the 1:1000 score would likely fall in the meaty part of the bell curve. |